British reality star Jade Goody died

excuse me for being harsh on what rightfully is a sad occasion having lost someone so young to a horrible disease but.........

My Grandad who fought in WW2 through its entirety died 2-3 years back, did he get a priministers eulogy.....like fuck did he!!!

The same cunts that are sending all their "RIPs" today are the ones that turned up at a big brother house on a friday night to boo her at will and call her a slag while she crossed the street given half the chance.
Great mother......errrmm........

well they lived with their estranged father up until jade got married again to a convict who took over all childminding duties and will no doubt be in charge of the entire wheel and all her childrens rightful belongings.

I can only prey to the god the same bloodsucking parasites that are around right now such as her druggy no-show mum and in-look fashionable friends dont get a hold of the 2 childrens lives one bit and they get the chance at a decent life!!!!!!!!!


PS:One last thing before i go, most of the british readers of this will no doubt be buying a sun newspaper tommorow which will no doubt have a full spread jade tribute telling you all what a loving mother/daughter/friend etc she was, may i please draw your attention to an article that very newspaper wrote up not a year or two ago.....



Vote out the pig

TODAY Bizarre speaks its mind and urges readers to vote JADE out of the Big Brother house.
The pig with the biggest mouth on TV has finally been nominated for eviction ? and now YOU have the power to roast her.
Jade has few redeeming qualities and her housemates have at last become aware of her bitchiness and backbiting.

About time too.
I believe she has been a destructive influence on the house and her ignorance is a damning indictment of the British school system.
She doesn’t deserve to win the £70,000 prize and you can help stop her getting her trotters on it.
Jade is one of the most hated women on British TV and life will be hard for her when she leaves the house.

But don’t feel sorry for her. It is better that she leaves now ? she’ll only make things worse for herself.
Also it’s only fair on the other contestants who we love, like ALEX, JOHNNY and KATE.
They can’t bear to be with her any longer.
She has been manipulating the other housemates with her “baby” act but now the baby is in tears because it can’t have its way.
Let’s put the baby out of its misery.
We’ve all met a Jade ? the little madam in the school playground who will stab you in the back at any opportunity.
She has been compared to HELEN ADAMS from last year’s show but that’s unfair.
Jade has a fatal combination ? ignorance and arrogance.
I urge you to exercise your democratic right and vote the pig out.
All you have to do is ring the number at the top of the page.

All I have to say is "Thank you Europe and MTV for all our shitty reality tv shows we have"!!!


"Making stars out of ordinary people doesn't make any sense"

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

excuse me for being harsh on what rightfully is a sad occasion having lost someone so young to a horrible disease but.........

My Grandad who fought in WW2 through its entirety died 2-3 years back, did he get a priministers eulogy.....like fuck did he!!!

The same cunts that are sending all their "RIPs" today are the ones that turned up at a big brother house on a friday night to boo her at will and call her a slag while she crossed the street given half the chance.
Great mother......errrmm........

well they lived with their estranged father up until jade got married again to a convict who took over all childminding duties and will no doubt be in charge of the entire wheel and all her childrens rightful belongings.

I can only prey to the god the same bloodsucking parasites that are around right now such as her druggy no-show mum and in-look fashionable friends dont get a hold of the 2 childrens lives one bit and they get the chance at a decent life!!!!!!!!!


PS:One last thing before i go, most of the british readers of this will no doubt be buying a sun newspaper tommorow which will no doubt have a full spread jade tribute telling you all what a loving mother/daughter/friend etc she was, may i please draw your attention to an article that very newspaper wrote up not a year or two ago.....



Vote out the pig

TODAY Bizarre speaks its mind and urges readers to vote JADE out of the Big Brother house.
The pig with the biggest mouth on TV has finally been nominated for eviction ? and now YOU have the power to roast her.
Jade has few redeeming qualities and her housemates have at last become aware of her bitchiness and backbiting.

About time too.
I believe she has been a destructive influence on the house and her ignorance is a damning indictment of the British school system.
She doesn’t deserve to win the £70,000 prize and you can help stop her getting her trotters on it.
Jade is one of the most hated women on British TV and life will be hard for her when she leaves the house.

But don’t feel sorry for her. It is better that she leaves now ? she’ll only make things worse for herself.
Also it’s only fair on the other contestants who we love, like ALEX, JOHNNY and KATE.
They can’t bear to be with her any longer.
She has been manipulating the other housemates with her “baby” act but now the baby is in tears because it can’t have its way.
Let’s put the baby out of its misery.
We’ve all met a Jade ? the little madam in the school playground who will stab you in the back at any opportunity.
She has been compared to HELEN ADAMS from last year’s show but that’s unfair.
Jade has a fatal combination ? ignorance and arrogance.
I urge you to exercise your democratic right and vote the pig out.
All you have to do is ring the number at the top of the page.

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It is very sad to think her kids will be without there mother, but i agree wtf is Gordan Brown making a public speech about it for??

That cunt should concentrate on sorting this fucking country out the daft bastard.

Is she definitely dead.

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Is she definitely dead.

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Maybe its all a lie and we will see her on the next celebrity big brother??

On another note Master u bastards are 3-0 up!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Looks like this race is going to go down to the wire.

LOL One point in it and if we win against Fulham, by the time Utd play there next game they will be 2 points down.

I cannot find a bloody link, all these Mancs must be watching :)

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That cunt should concentrate on sorting this fucking country out the daft bastard.

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Maybe he's taking a cue from Obama who can't seem to be on TV enough...I wonder when we're going to be hit with a "Growing Up Obama" or "Obama Knows Best" series.

The Tonight Show, 60 Minutes, ESPN filling out Brackets.....maybe one of these days he'll get to the economy :rolleyes:

You guys crack me up. Talking about death, kids being left without a mother, the country economically, and then it swtiches to important things: football.

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You guys crack me up. Talking about death, kids being left without a mother, the country economically, and then it swtiches to important things: football.

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;D hahaha.

Gordon Brown claims that Goody was a "courageous woman".

Gordon mate, you must be thinking of Jane Tomlinson, the cancer sufferer who raised millions for charity while dying of cancer…..

Goody was the pig-faced racist retard who sold her every fucking turd to the media to line her and her equally ugly family’s pockets………..

You stupid one eyed Scottish simpleton…….
P.S
Goody dies but the cancer lives on….called Max Clifford

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I feel sort of bad that I'm using all my phone battery looking up Jade Goody jokes ..... but at least my battery will only be dead temporarily.

Its a true shame someone soo young that had everything,fame,money etc to lose a battle with a horrible desease as cancer.27 is no age is it?I've just turned 28 and it makes you think that it does'nt matter who you are or what you've got,it can all be taken away soo fast.I feel for the kids most!

I don't know this person. It's still sad to hear no matter what. R.I.P.

Wasn't a fan by any means, but any parent having to leave behind their 2 babes is just horrific and I can't even begin to imagine how scared the girl was. RIP Jade.

just feel sorry for the kids!

yo hattonthehammer know where your coming form regarding your grandad fighting in WWII

i moan at my wife she buys all them ok & hello fkin magazines & watches that fkin e entertainment channel! thats how they make all this money stupid fkin woman, men dont care & if they do they are gay, full stop!

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Wasn't a fan by any means, but any parent having to leave behind their 2 babes is just horrific and I can't even begin to imagine how scared the girl was. RIP Jade.

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I agree.
Its a harsh way to be dragged out of her little dream state she called life. My bet is the real her got to live some prior to her body and mind giving up, now it lives for real.

I do find it funny how most people imagine a heaven as a big house and God as the next Big brother though.

"Jade stop trying to bump everything, your a spirit now, it nots done like that here."

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Gordon Brown claims that Goody was a "courageous woman".

Gordon mate, you must be thinking of Jane Tomlinson, the cancer sufferer who raised millions for charity while dying of cancer…..

Goody was the pig-faced racist retard who sold her every fucking turd to the media to line her and her equally ugly family’s pockets………..

You stupid one eyed Scottish simpleton…….
P.S
Goody dies but the cancer lives on….called Max Clifford

:)

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spot on about the whole tomlinson thing

The baggy faced c*nt has no scrupels and will sink as low as he can go to possibly win that extra odd vote!!

And as for Clifford.........He`s the most vile disgraceful shambolic c*** of a man ever graced gods green earth and will use anything possible to line his pockets much like george galloway.

druggy no-show mum will now become a self made millionaire, convict hubby is setup for life. As for her actual children......................one can only imagine what those poor souls are going through right now and can only hope to god that jades supposed charity drive was really for them and not to line the pockets of druggys and thieves!!






oh an PS:

Scousers played well today, but still think youre gonna end up falling short again and the mancs game in hand may just prove vital!!

Mind you Chelsea in the next round of the champs so at least youre guaranteed a semi final place ;D;D;D

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

excuse me for being harsh on what rightfully is a sad occasion having lost someone so young to a horrible disease but.........

My Grandad who fought in WW2 through its entirety died 2-3 years back, did he get a priministers eulogy.....like fuck did he!!!

The same cunts that are sending all their "RIPs" today are the ones that turned up at a big brother house on a friday night to boo her at will and call her a slag while she crossed the street given half the chance.
Great mother......errrmm........

well they lived with their estranged father up until jade got married again to a convict who took over all childminding duties and will no doubt be in charge of the entire wheel and all her childrens rightful belongings.

I can only prey to the god the same bloodsucking parasites that are around right now such as her druggy no-show mum and in-look fashionable friends dont get a hold of the 2 childrens lives one bit and they get the chance at a decent life!!!!!!!!!


PS:One last thing before i go, most of the british readers of this will no doubt be buying a sun newspaper tommorow which will no doubt have a full spread jade tribute telling you all what a loving mother/daughter/friend etc she was, may i please draw your attention to an article that very newspaper wrote up not a year or two ago.....



Vote out the pig

TODAY Bizarre speaks its mind and urges readers to vote JADE out of the Big Brother house.
The pig with the biggest mouth on TV has finally been nominated for eviction ? and now YOU have the power to roast her.
Jade has few redeeming qualities and her housemates have at last become aware of her bitchiness and backbiting.

About time too.
I believe she has been a destructive influence on the house and her ignorance is a damning indictment of the British school system.
She doesn’t deserve to win the £70,000 prize and you can help stop her getting her trotters on it.
Jade is one of the most hated women on British TV and life will be hard for her when she leaves the house.

But don’t feel sorry for her. It is better that she leaves now ? she’ll only make things worse for herself.
Also it’s only fair on the other contestants who we love, like ALEX, JOHNNY and KATE.
They can’t bear to be with her any longer.
She has been manipulating the other housemates with her “baby” act but now the baby is in tears because it can’t have its way.
Let’s put the baby out of its misery.
We’ve all met a Jade ? the little madam in the school playground who will stab you in the back at any opportunity.
She has been compared to HELEN ADAMS from last year’s show but that’s unfair.
Jade has a fatal combination ? ignorance and arrogance.
I urge you to exercise your democratic right and vote the pig out.
All you have to do is ring the number at the top of the page.

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Not sure I understand this logic at all. Jade's death has been very public because her life was very public. Anybody as much in the public eye as Jade Goody would have their death covered in great detail.

I'm sure your grandad was a great man but he wasn't famous in life so why would he be famous in death?

As for the people paying her respects now being those who booed her and hated her in the past I don't actually think thats true. All over the internet there are thousands of whiny bastards telling the world how useless they thought she was completely oblivious to the fact that making a song and dance about a poor mum who has just died a tragic death makes them far worse on any social scale than she was.

How can people not see the hypocrisy in slagging Jade off because she was gobby and nasty when she got into arguments for example and then think its ok for them to sit in judgement of a complete stranger and tell the world they thought she was a waste of space.


Jade was simply a normal working class common girl, like millions of others around the country, People despised her mainly becuase she is just one of them, simple like them, petty like them, argumentative like then, undeserving of fame and fortune like them.

Nobody who says Jade is a waste of space and acts like her death is a good or funny thing is any better than Jade Goody as a person, in fact imo they are far worse.

It's events like this that show the true character of people and those so blind and impervious to human suffering that they can use someone's tragic death in order to make a point are just horrible people in my eyes.

Jade should be treated with respect because she was a human being, a mother, a daughter, a wife and she died a horrible death.

If someone refuses to give her that respect becuase she's not 'worth it' then they themselves are not worth respect either.

I still don't really care. I see all these stories on the front page of Yahoo and just draw a blank. I certainly haven't bothered to read through any of them. What is it about this woman and the recent events that make it so worthy of attention? I wouldn't wish anybody a death like that, except maybe George W Bush, but is it really that interesting? It's certainly not something I can get upset about. It's like a modern times Princess Di for the chav's.

She's being cremated so that the guests can take away their own little goody bag after the ceremony

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

excuse me for being harsh on what rightfully is a sad occasion having lost someone so young to a horrible disease but.........

My Grandad who fought in WW2 through its entirety died 2-3 years back, did he get a priministers eulogy.....like fuck did he!!!

The same cunts that are sending all their "RIPs" today are the ones that turned up at a big brother house on a friday night to boo her at will and call her a slag while she crossed the street given half the chance.
Great mother......errrmm........

well they lived with their estranged father up until jade got married again to a convict who took over all childminding duties and will no doubt be in charge of the entire wheel and all her childrens rightful belongings.

I can only prey to the god the same bloodsucking parasites that are around right now such as her druggy no-show mum and in-look fashionable friends dont get a hold of the 2 childrens lives one bit and they get the chance at a decent life!!!!!!!!!


PS:One last thing before i go, most of the british readers of this will no doubt be buying a sun newspaper tommorow which will no doubt have a full spread jade tribute telling you all what a loving mother/daughter/friend etc she was, may i please draw your attention to an article that very newspaper wrote up not a year or two ago.....



Vote out the pig

TODAY Bizarre speaks its mind and urges readers to vote JADE out of the Big Brother house.
The pig with the biggest mouth on TV has finally been nominated for eviction ? and now YOU have the power to roast her.
Jade has few redeeming qualities and her housemates have at last become aware of her bitchiness and backbiting.

About time too.
I believe she has been a destructive influence on the house and her ignorance is a damning indictment of the British school system.
She doesn’t deserve to win the £70,000 prize and you can help stop her getting her trotters on it.
Jade is one of the most hated women on British TV and life will be hard for her when she leaves the house.

But don’t feel sorry for her. It is better that she leaves now ? she’ll only make things worse for herself.
Also it’s only fair on the other contestants who we love, like ALEX, JOHNNY and KATE.
They can’t bear to be with her any longer.
She has been manipulating the other housemates with her “baby” act but now the baby is in tears because it can’t have its way.
Let’s put the baby out of its misery.
We’ve all met a Jade ? the little madam in the school playground who will stab you in the back at any opportunity.
She has been compared to HELEN ADAMS from last year’s show but that’s unfair.
Jade has a fatal combination ? ignorance and arrogance.
I urge you to exercise your democratic right and vote the pig out.
All you have to do is ring the number at the top of the page.

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Not sure I understand this logic at all. Jade's death has been very public because her life was very public. Anybody as much in the public eye as Jade Goody would have their death covered in great detail.

I'm sure your grandad was a great man but he wasn't famous in life so why would he be famous in death?

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Natasha Richardson was a talented and celebrated stage and screen actor... did she get a Eulogy from the prime minister?!...

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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer

excuse me for being harsh on what rightfully is a sad occasion having lost someone so young to a horrible disease but.........

My Grandad who fought in WW2 through its entirety died 2-3 years back, did he get a priministers eulogy.....like fuck did he!!!

The same cunts that are sending all their "RIPs" today are the ones that turned up at a big brother house on a friday night to boo her at will and call her a slag while she crossed the street given half the chance.
Great mother......errrmm........

well they lived with their estranged father up until jade got married again to a convict who took over all childminding duties and will no doubt be in charge of the entire wheel and all her childrens rightful belongings.

I can only prey to the god the same bloodsucking parasites that are around right now such as her druggy no-show mum and in-look fashionable friends dont get a hold of the 2 childrens lives one bit and they get the chance at a decent life!!!!!!!!!


PS:One last thing before i go, most of the british readers of this will no doubt be buying a sun newspaper tommorow which will no doubt have a full spread jade tribute telling you all what a loving mother/daughter/friend etc she was, may i please draw your attention to an article that very newspaper wrote up not a year or two ago.....



Vote out the pig

TODAY Bizarre speaks its mind and urges readers to vote JADE out of the Big Brother house.
The pig with the biggest mouth on TV has finally been nominated for eviction ? and now YOU have the power to roast her.
Jade has few redeeming qualities and her housemates have at last become aware of her bitchiness and backbiting.

About time too.
I believe she has been a destructive influence on the house and her ignorance is a damning indictment of the British school system.
She doesn’t deserve to win the £70,000 prize and you can help stop her getting her trotters on it.
Jade is one of the most hated women on British TV and life will be hard for her when she leaves the house.

But don’t feel sorry for her. It is better that she leaves now ? she’ll only make things worse for herself.
Also it’s only fair on the other contestants who we love, like ALEX, JOHNNY and KATE.
They can’t bear to be with her any longer.
She has been manipulating the other housemates with her “baby” act but now the baby is in tears because it can’t have its way.
Let’s put the baby out of its misery.
We’ve all met a Jade ? the little madam in the school playground who will stab you in the back at any opportunity.
She has been compared to HELEN ADAMS from last year’s show but that’s unfair.
Jade has a fatal combination ? ignorance and arrogance.
I urge you to exercise your democratic right and vote the pig out.
All you have to do is ring the number at the top of the page.

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Not sure I understand this logic at all. Jade's death has been very public because her life was very public. Anybody as much in the public eye as Jade Goody would have their death covered in great detail.

I'm sure your grandad was a great man but he wasn't famous in life so why would he be famous in death?

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Natasha Richardson was a talented and celebrated stage and screen actor... did she get a Eulogy from the prime minister?!...

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But firstly her death wasn't covered step by step and filmed like Jade's was and secondly, rightly or wrongly millions of people in this country were interested in Jade Goody and so her death struck a chord. Thirdly Natasha Richardson lives in New York not the UK.

If Natasha had died a lingering death with a camera crew documenting her final events, if she was a household name with millions of working class chavy people around the country and if she actually lived in the UK then you can guarantee she would have got a eulogy.

As it is I'm sure many high profile people have paid tribute to Natasha and her tragic death last week. A lot of people can relate to Jade Goody, she's been called the Chav Princess, she's just a common girl, one of the common people. Common people (of whom there are millions in the uk) clearly relate to her much more than a wealthy socialite from acting aristocracy who lived a life of splendour on the other side of the world.

But put simply, Jaed Goody is more of a household name in the UK and her life hs been heavily documented since 2002 so she her life and death is interesting to a far larger demographic than Natasha Richardson.

Also Natasha may not have had her praise sung by the PM but she also hasn't had the indignity of several thousand hate threads posted all over the net and people who never met her publicly proclaiming what a fat fucking waste of space she was, I'd say it balances out ;)

Whats amazing is that around 200,000 people die everyday. Roughly 40,000 of those are children who die from starvation. About 4,000 die of AIDS. Cancer kills approx. 20,000. It is sad when mostly anyone dies, but the media decided Jade Goodys life was more newsworthy than the other 199,999. The media is what amuses me, her death doesnt impact me in any way though. If I died a week earlier I doubt she would have come on Saddoboxing and left me so much as an RIP. But f@ck it, since ive aleady wrote this much...RIP Jade ;D

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Whats amazing is that around 200,000 people die everyday. Roughly 40,000 of those are children who die from starvation. About 4,000 die of AIDS. Cancer kills approx. 20,000. It is sad when mostly anyone dies, but the media decided Jade Goodys life was more newsworthy than the other 199,999. The media is what amuses me, her death doesnt impact me in any way though. If I died a week earlier I doubt she would have come on Saddoboxing and left me so much as an RIP. But f@ck it, since ive aleady wrote this much...RIP Jade ;D

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So you'd rather that when a famous person dies there's just a media silence then?

Her death is a big deal in the media becuase its a big deal to millions of people. Not you, you may not give a shit but millions of others do so that's why its covered, FOR THEM.

It's such a non point, people box on fightcards for peanuts all over the world in bouts in front of 50 people or less but let me guess this weekend you watched Vitali Klitchsko and Roy Jones.

Why did you not create a thread praising Ugandan's John Sajabi for winning his pro debut at the Little Flowers Arena in Kampala last night? I see you've had plenty to say about Klitschko and Jones but no mention for the little guys eh.

And what about other sports? Where was your concern for the Paralympic champion Oscar Pistorious who was in a boating accident on Saturday?

Let me put it to you that you didn't mention either of these guys because you have never heard of them and therefore simply do not care.

Well that's how it is in life! Jade Goody is news simply because her death IS important news to millions of people. So the newstatsions cover it for them.

These anonymous statistics you quote arn't significant to millions of people as nobody knows who they are. It's simple common sense. Just as we on this forum arn't going to talk about an Yong Panduck beating Chin Manoy in Manilla in a 4 rounder neither are the newscasters going to tell us about poor Mary Eller who died in her sleep aged 46 from Turrberry Crescent in Stover, England.

The irony is that you ARE talking about Jade Goody more than those who just acknowledged her sad death and moved on. It's clearly news to you too if you find it important enough to talk about it.

To me it just shows he fickle life is.

Just an average Chav with no talents or skills... she ends up with undeserved fame and wealth and then died of undeserved cancer at 27.
It's basically a case of *wow I can't believe it* then *shit I can't believe it*

Nobodies shocked that it's getting Media attention Bilbo... I'm just saying it's a sad state that it is... OK magazine had a dedication to her on the front cover of their magazine a WEEK ago... 1981-2009 or what ever... they couldn't even wait for her to die before cashing in on it, and the sad thing is that people will buy this shit and make them £££ which is the only thing that they care about... they couldn't give two shits about Jade Goody.

And of course the media and paps are going to lap it up Bilbo... forget the media... my point is why is Goody more deserving of an EULOGY FROM THE PRIME MINISTER. The media has nothing to do with it... Brown is just looking to gain popularity... I can't remember George Best getting one... I can't remember any British celebrity who died amongst a media circus getting an Eulogy from the prime minister.

Why did she have "undeserved" wealth and fame?

She comes from a council estate in south-east London, born to a drug addict dad and a crazy lesbian mother. It's hardly surprising she didn't get an education or the most well-grounded upbringing, is it?

Millions lapped up her life story.

I think it's GREAT that someone from her background can make so many upper/middle class educated people so blatantly jealous :cool:

Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or acheive it.

Unfortunatly I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

She entered a reality TV show. People were so captivated by her that on leaving the interest continued and in the process she amassed a fortune.

What is undeserving about that? Millions loved her entertainment. Millions loved what she was selling.

Did she not better herself?

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Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or acheive it.

Unfortunatly I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

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To piggy back on Fenster, lots of upper class people don't deserve what they have either.

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Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or acheive it.

Unfortunatly I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

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As Fenster already said how did she not earn or work for it? :confused::confused:

How different is she from Natasha Richardson really, both are performers who earned their money through playing a role.

And how do you define talent exactly?

Is the ability to kick a football around a field a real talent? Is the ability to beat someone up a real talent? What about the ability to roleplay somebody else?

Virtually all of the people we admire and look up to have talents that in reality don't equate to very much at all in terms of improving human society or bettering civilisation.

The ultimate acolades and plaudits these days go to entertainers, those people who do very well the things that entertain the masses, but yet in reality are completely and utterly pointless, so the ability to sing and look sexy on stage, the ability to play football, to box, to tell jokes, to act etc.

The most modern form of entertainment in 21st century Britain has been reality television, where 'ordinary' people get 15 minutes of fame.

Jade was just one of thousands of reality stars created over the past 10 years or so but unlike the rest of them she managed to capture the attention of the public, not just for 15 mins but from the moment she first appeared on our screens until her death.

Her book was a bestseller, amazingly her perfume range was a best seller, she turned herself into a million dollar plus brand name and even made stars of her family.

That IS talent. She has been more succesful than any other Big Brother contestent, probably in the world.

Not bad for someone who grew up with no qualifications, no prospects whatsoever and entirely the wrong uprbringing for success.

But to suggest she didn't earn her way is just ridiuclous.

Day 1 in heaven and Jade Goody is already up for eviction.

That just says how she got what she got... not what SHE actually did for it. The media have nothing better to write about... big brother's producers fancy sticking a random charv on the show and she gets money because society is so sad that they obsess over her. That's some break to have 'earned'. :confused:

Max Clifford has managed to milk our obsession with watching metaphorical car crashes, love of looking down on 'lesser people' and love or 'pantomime villains' very well... that is a talent... Jade Goody has been lucky enough to have been taken along on that ride by him. Good for her... I'm not even knocking her, simply saying that it has been a case of EASY COME and unfortunately easy go.

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Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or achieve it.

Unfortunately I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

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To piggy back on Fenster, lots of upper class people don't deserve what they have either.

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You won't find somebody who agrees more. What's your point? I'm not attacking lower classes or even Jade Goody.

The whole point I am making is that it is easy come easy go. Here today gone tomorrow.

Watched Ladettes to ladies last night the Aussie chick who won the crown said she was so impresed with Mrs Harcourts flower arranging that she has now taken up horticulture.

Mrs Harcourt didnt even crack a grin :confused:.

You know.."You can lead a whore to culture."

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That just says how she got what she got... not what SHE actually did for it. The media have nothing better to write about... big brother's producers fancy sticking a random charv on the show and she gets money because society is so sad that they obsess over her. That's some break to have 'earned'. :confused:

Max Clifford has managed to milk our obsession with watching metaphorical car crashes, love of looking down on 'lesser people' and love or 'pantomime villains' very well... that is a talent... Jade Goody has been lucky enough to have been taken along on that ride by him. Good for her... I'm not even knocking her, simply saying that it has been a case of EASY COME and unfortunately easy go.

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Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or achieve it.

Unfortunately I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

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To piggy back on Fenster, lots of upper class people don't deserve what they have either.

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You won't find somebody who agrees more. What's your point? I'm not attacking lower classes or even Jade Goody.

The whole point I am making is that it is easy come easy go. Here today gone tomorrow.

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Adam there have been literally hundreds of reality tv stars created over the last 10 years, Jade was the only who managed to convert that into a succesful and lasting media career.

It was hardly easy come easy go. Think how many hundreds of people have been on just Big Brother in the UK over the past decade, a couple hundred I'd imagine. Then add in all the other reality shows.

How many of them went on to have succesful media careers and become millionaires like Jade?

It wasn't easy at all. I know people personally who have applied to get on Big Brother (and yes I think that is unbelievably sad!). But there are literally thousands of hopefuls every single year. Most of them are not even 'regular' people at all but already ambitious types signed up with modelling agencies, their own agents etc.

Jade literally was just a dental nurse, no agent, no modelling career, not particularly attractive, she was just a common chav.

Yet unlike virtually every single other reality star ever she made it, and she made it big.

There's nothing easy about it. It's no easier to become a millionaire celebrity via the reality tv route than it is to go via acting, football, modelling, singing etc. In fact those disciplines offer far more opportunities for a real career than appearing on a reality show ever could.


How many famous reality stars are created each year compared with footballers, actors, singers, bands etc?

If you think anyone could do it and that it didn't take hard work and a real talent for self promotion on her part why not just do it yourself and bag an easy fortune mate?

What Jade managed to achieve for herself literally out of nothing was incredible.

It's also worth noting that as a direct result of Jade's publicising her battle with cancer that literally thousands of woman around the country have been enquiring about getting cervical smear tests and even a committe has been set up to institute a new health care policy of bringing in smear tests for cervical cancer for the under 25's, something which is believed will save thousands of lives.

So this simple common girl will leave a lasting legacy and help prevent the early deaths of thousands of women in this country, ironically meaning she has done more for the betterment of mankind (well womankind) than all the other really talented people that you esteem above her. ;)

never minded Jade... hated Jack, her mum and that cunt who is her kids dad.

but Jade was OK... she had no talent and made millions, good for her i say and why not i'm sure i'd have done the same.

never seen her as a racist when the whole contry wanted to burn her at the stake... just ignorant, but still have most of that BB on sky plus :embarassed:

Shilpa and that Jackson guy where totally nasty as fuck when Jades Mother and Jack turned up in the BB house and thats what started the whole crap off.... but the Racist card stuck because alot of peeps hate Jade for being untalented and successful ((live by the sword, die by the sword))

R.I.P Jade.

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never minded Jade... hated Jack, her mum and that cunt who is her kids dad.

but Jade was OK... she had no talent and made millions, good for her i say and why not i'm sure i'd have done the same.

never seen her as a racist when the whole contry wanted to burn her at the stake... just ignorant, but still have most of that BB on sky plus :embarassed:

Shilpa and that Jackson guy where totally nasty as fuck when Jades Mother and Jack turned up in the BB house and thats what started the whole crap off.... but the Racist card stuck because alot of peeps hate Jade for being untalented and successful ((live by the sword, die by the sword))

R.I.P Jade.

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Yeah I agree mate, I think the Shilpa incident didn't highlight hidden colour racism as much as it did hidden social racism.

Jade is mocked and the subject of abuse for being part of the lowest working class and not pretty whereas Shilpa was attractive and succesful.

The world is a shallow place and true discrimination is often blurred and distorted.

It's ironic that so many ordinary and common people would despise one of their own and moan about how little talent she had whereas the people we worship and adore as having 'real' talent are actually merely good at expoiting the masses desire for entertainment and pandering to those needs.

In all seriousness how is being brilliant with a football, or able to act, or swing a golf club a real talent? How does this advance society any more than Jade's reality show performances?

It's all about entertaining the masses, providing us with instant gratification and we will pay millions to such people and even adopt them as our hero's.

The truly talented people, doctors, builders, engineers, scientists etc are of no interest at all to most of the population evidenced by the fact that a premiership footballer will make more in a week than a top surgeon will make in a year.

Jade struck a blow for the common person and should be applauded for it.

funny stuff on this thread. Once a chav always a chav.

Jade was mocked for being the thickest of the thick regardless of social background.

It's unfortunate for her family esp. her kids but some clown on the tv was making out as if this was of bibilical significance:confused:

What she was able to do was work the media and OK/Hello reading leeches to get whatever cash she could for her kids. Fair play to that.

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That just says how she got what she got... not what SHE actually did for it. The media have nothing better to write about... big brother's producers fancy sticking a random charv on the show and she gets money because society is so sad that they obsess over her. That's some break to have 'earned'. :confused:

Max Clifford has managed to milk our obsession with watching metaphorical car crashes, love of looking down on 'lesser people' and love or 'pantomime villains' very well... that is a talent... Jade Goody has been lucky enough to have been taken along on that ride by him. Good for her... I'm not even knocking her, simply saying that it has been a case of EASY COME and unfortunately easy go.

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To piggy back on Fenster, lots of upper class people don't deserve what they have either.

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You won't find somebody who agrees more. What's your point? I'm not attacking lower classes or even Jade Goody.

The whole point I am making is that it is easy come easy go. Here today gone tomorrow.

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Adam there have been literally hundreds of reality tv stars created over the last 10 years, Jade was the only who managed to convert that into a successful and lasting media career.
off the top of my head - Kerry Katona, Paris Hilton, Jodie Marsh... there are 100s of barely talented/untalented people who make money because they keep themselves in the papers after getting there one way or another...

It was hardly easy come easy go. Think how many hundreds of people have been on just Big Brother in the UK over the past decade, a couple hundred I'd imagine. Then add in all the other reality shows.

How many of them went on to have successful media careers and become millionaires like Jade?
Congratulate her publicist/manager, like I've said she's done very little compared to what she's got. Despite me mentioning her manager before I think you seem to be under the impression that she's planned everything or something. Max Clifford has planned how to work the tabloids and Goody hasn't had do do anything particularly hard to follow this plan.

It wasn't easy at all. I know people personally who have applied to get on Big Brother (and yes I think that is unbelievably sad!). But there are literally thousands of hopefuls every single year. Most of them are not even 'regular' people at all but already ambitious types signed up with modelling agencies, their own agents etc.
So we agree that it's down to luck/who the producers want in the house... Why do you think there's always a tranny/giant queen in it? the PRODUCERS put together what ever ingredients they need for friction/amusement and LUCKY for Jade they needed some ten a penny Charv

Jade literally was just a dental nurse, no agent, no modelling career, not particularly attractive, she was just a common chav.

Yet unlike virtually every single other reality star ever she made it, and she made it big.

There's nothing easy about it. It's no easier to become a millionaire celebrity via the reality tv route than it is to go via acting, football, modelling, singing etc. In fact those disciplines offer far more opportunities for a real career than appearing on a reality show ever could.


How many famous reality stars are created each year compared with footballers, actors, singers, bands etc?


If you think anyone could do it and that it didn't take hard work and a real talent for self promotion on her part why not just do it yourself and bag an easy fortune mate?

if I was lucky enough to have Big Brother wanting a polite lower middle class kid on the show I'm sure I could. I'd of course have to rely on sheeple loving to bitch about me/look down on me.

What Jade managed to achieve for herself literally out of nothing was incredible.
Incredibly lucky

It's also worth noting that as a direct result of Jade's publicising her battle with cancer that literally thousands of woman around the country have been enquiring about getting cervical smear tests and even a committee has been set up to institute a new health care policy of bringing in smear tests for cervical cancer for the under 25's, something which is believed will save thousands of lives.

So this simple common girl will leave a lasting legacy and help prevent the early deaths of thousands of women in this country, ironically meaning she has done more for the betterment of mankind (well womankind) than all the other really talented people that you esteem above her. ;)
lol Bilbo don't just throw that out there... Who are we talking about here? Plenty of Celebritys do things things to raise money for/awareness of causes. Who exactly am I esteeming over her by saying that she is lucky and relatively talentless compared to what she has amassed? I don't see how that is at all a fallacy. She's worth as much as any other human and because of our sad culture and by being picked out of 1000s of other Charvs has managed to accumulate a lot

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funny stuff on this thread. Once a chav always a chav.

Jade was mocked for being the thickest of the thick regardless of social background.

It's unfortunate for her family esp. her kids but some clown on the tv was making out as if this was of bibilical significance:confused:

What she was able to do was work the media and OK/Hello reading leeches to get whatever cash she could for her kids. Fair play to that.

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Exactly and Max "Mr. Tabloid" Clifford was the one doing all of the thinking. Not Goody.

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That just says how she got what she got... not what SHE actually did for it. The media have nothing better to write about... big brother's producers fancy sticking a random charv on the show and she gets money because society is so sad that they obsess over her. That's some break to have 'earned'. :confused:

Max Clifford has managed to milk our obsession with watching metaphorical car crashes, love of looking down on 'lesser people' and love or 'pantomime villains' very well... that is a talent... Jade Goody has been lucky enough to have been taken along on that ride by him. Good for her... I'm not even knocking her, simply saying that it has been a case of EASY COME and unfortunately easy go.




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You won't find somebody who agrees more. What's your point? I'm not attacking lower classes or even Jade Goody.

The whole point I am making is that it is easy come easy go. Here today gone tomorrow.

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Adam there have been literally hundreds of reality tv stars created over the last 10 years, Jade was the only who managed to convert that into a successful and lasting media career.
off the top of my head - Kerry Katona, Paris Hilton, Jodie Marsh... there are 100s of barely talented/untalented people who make money because they keep themselves in the papers after getting there one way or another...

It was hardly easy come easy go. Think how many hundreds of people have been on just Big Brother in the UK over the past decade, a couple hundred I'd imagine. Then add in all the other reality shows.

How many of them went on to have successful media careers and become millionaires like Jade?
Congratulate her publicist/manager, like I've said she's done very little compared to what she's got. Despite me mentioning her manager before I think you seem to be under the impression that she's planned everything or something. Max Clifford has planned how to work the tabloids and Goody hasn't had do do anything particularly hard to follow this plan.

It wasn't easy at all. I know people personally who have applied to get on Big Brother (and yes I think that is unbelievably sad!). But there are literally thousands of hopefuls every single year. Most of them are not even 'regular' people at all but already ambitious types signed up with modelling agencies, their own agents etc.
So we agree that it's down to luck/who the producers want in the house... Why do you think there's always a tranny/giant queen in it? the PRODUCERS put together what ever ingredients they need for friction/amusement and LUCKY for Jade they needed some ten a penny Charv

Jade literally was just a dental nurse, no agent, no modelling career, not particularly attractive, she was just a common chav.

Yet unlike virtually every single other reality star ever she made it, and she made it big.

There's nothing easy about it. It's no easier to become a millionaire celebrity via the reality tv route than it is to go via acting, football, modelling, singing etc. In fact those disciplines offer far more opportunities for a real career than appearing on a reality show ever could.


How many famous reality stars are created each year compared with footballers, actors, singers, bands etc?


If you think anyone could do it and that it didn't take hard work and a real talent for self promotion on her part why not just do it yourself and bag an easy fortune mate?

if I was lucky enough to have Big Brother wanting a polite lower middle class kid on the show I'm sure I could. I'd of course have to rely on sheeple loving to bitch about me/look down on me.

What Jade managed to achieve for herself literally out of nothing was incredible.
Incredibly lucky

It's also worth noting that as a direct result of Jade's publicising her battle with cancer that literally thousands of woman around the country have been enquiring about getting cervical smear tests and even a committee has been set up to institute a new health care policy of bringing in smear tests for cervical cancer for the under 25's, something which is believed will save thousands of lives.

So this simple common girl will leave a lasting legacy and help prevent the early deaths of thousands of women in this country, ironically meaning she has done more for the betterment of mankind (well womankind) than all the other really talented people that you esteem above her. ;)
lol Bilbo don't just throw that out there... Who are we talking about here? Plenty of Celebritys do things things to raise money for/awareness of causes. Who exactly am I esteeming over her by saying that she is lucky and relatively talentless compared to what she has amassed? I don't see how that is at all a fallacy. She's worth as much as any other human and because of our sad culture and by being picked out of 1000s of other Charvs has managed to accumulate a lot

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Kerry Katona was a member of Atomic Kitten one of Britiains most successful ever female pop bands, how is she just a reality tv star?

Paris Hilton is the world's most famous socialite, because she's the glitzy daughter of a billionaire, she's done reality tv (and porn) but that didn't make her a star, she was already famous.

Jodie Marsh is indeed a reality star, possibly the second most successful ever but she's nowhere as successful as Jade was.

As for just being lucky how do you account for her continued success? Please explain how she managed to have 4 best selling books and a best selling perfume range?

She clearly has a talent for something even if it is self promotion. If it was easy EVERYONE who had ever been on a reality show would have done it.

But where are Saskia and Maxwell, Spencer, Science, Pete, Leah, Ashylnee, Lisa and all the other hundreds of wannabes now? She made the most of her opportunity, given 15 minutes of fame she managed to turn into a lasting career.

Even Missy said fairplay to her for that. ;D