British reality star Jade Goody died

[BoomBoom]

Whats amazing is that around 200,000 people die everyday. Roughly 40,000 of those are children who die from starvation. About 4,000 die of AIDS. Cancer kills approx. 20,000. It is sad when mostly anyone dies, but the media decided Jade Goodys life was more newsworthy than the other 199,999. The media is what amuses me, her death doesnt impact me in any way though. If I died a week earlier I doubt she would have come on Saddoboxing and left me so much as an RIP. But f@ck it, since ive aleady wrote this much...RIP Jade

[Kev]

Whats amazing is that around 200,000 people die everyday. Roughly 40,000 of those are children who die from starvation. About 4,000 die of AIDS. Cancer kills approx. 20,000. It is sad when mostly anyone dies, but the media decided Jade Goodys life was more newsworthy than the other 199,999. The media is what amuses me, her death doesnt impact me in any way though. If I died a week earlier I doubt she would have come on Saddoboxing and left me so much as an RIP. But f@ck it, since ive aleady wrote this much...RIP Jade

So you'd rather that when a famous person dies there's just a media silence then?

Her death is a big deal in the media becuase its a big deal to millions of people. Not you, you may not give a shit but millions of others do so that's why its covered, FOR THEM.

It's such a non point, people box on fightcards for peanuts all over the world in bouts in front of 50 people or less but let me guess this weekend you watched Vitali Klitchsko and Roy Jones.

Why did you not create a thread praising Ugandan's John Sajabi for winning his pro debut at the Little Flowers Arena in Kampala last night? I see you've had plenty to say about Klitschko and Jones but no mention for the little guys eh.

And what about other sports? Where was your concern for the Paralympic champion Oscar Pistorious who was in a boating accident on Saturday?

Let me put it to you that you didn't mention either of these guys because you have never heard of them and therefore simply do not care.

Well that's how it is in life! Jade Goody is news simply because her death IS important news to millions of people. So the newstatsions cover it for them.

These anonymous statistics you quote arn't significant to millions of people as nobody knows who they are. It's simple common sense. Just as we on this forum arn't going to talk about an Yong Panduck beating Chin Manoy in Manilla in a 4 rounder neither are the newscasters going to tell us about poor Mary Eller who died in her sleep aged 46 from Turrberry Crescent in Stover, England.

The irony is that you ARE talking about Jade Goody more than those who just acknowledged her sad death and moved on. It's clearly news to you too if you find it important enough to talk about it.

[AdamGB]

To me it just shows he fickle life is.

Just an average Chav with no talents or skills... she ends up with undeserved fame and wealth and then died of undeserved cancer at 27.
It's basically a case of *wow I can't believe it* then *shit I can't believe it*

Nobodies shocked that it's getting Media attention Bilbo... I'm just saying it's a sad state that it is... OK magazine had a dedication to her on the front cover of their magazine a WEEK ago... 1981-2009 or what ever... they couldn't even wait for her to die before cashing in on it, and the sad thing is that people will buy this shit and make them £££ which is the only thing that they care about... they couldn't give two shits about Jade Goody.

And of course the media and paps are going to lap it up Bilbo... forget the media... my point is why is Goody more deserving of an EULOGY FROM THE PRIME MINISTER. The media has nothing to do with it... Brown is just looking to gain popularity... I can't remember George Best getting one... I can't remember any British celebrity who died amongst a media circus getting an Eulogy from the prime minister.

[Fenster]

Why did she have "undeserved" wealth and fame?

She comes from a council estate in south-east London, born to a drug addict dad and a crazy lesbian mother. It's hardly surprising she didn't get an education or the most well-grounded upbringing, is it?

Millions lapped up her life story.

I think it's GREAT that someone from her background can make so many upper/middle class educated people so blatantly jealous

[AdamGB]

Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or acheive it.

Unfortunatly I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

[Fenster]

She entered a reality TV show. People were so captivated by her that on leaving the interest continued and in the process she amassed a fortune.

What is undeserving about that? Millions loved her entertainment. Millions loved what she was selling.

Did she not better herself?

[boozeboxer]

Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or acheive it.

Unfortunatly I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

To piggy back on Fenster, lots of upper class people don't deserve what they have either.

[AdamGB]

That just says how she got what she got... not what SHE actually did for it. The media have nothing better to write about... big brother's producers fancy sticking a random charv on the show and she gets money because society is so sad that they obsess over her. That's some break to have 'earned'.

Max Clifford has managed to milk our obsession with watching metaphorical car crashes, love of looking down on 'lesser people' and love or 'pantomime villains' very well... that is a talent... Jade Goody has been lucky enough to have been taken along on that ride by him. Good for her... I'm not even knocking her, simply saying that it has been a case of EASY COME and unfortunately easy go.

Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or achieve it.

Unfortunately I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

To piggy back on Fenster, lots of upper class people don't deserve what they have either.

You won't find somebody who agrees more. What's your point? I'm not attacking lower classes or even Jade Goody.

The whole point I am making is that it is easy come easy go. Here today gone tomorrow.

[Kev]

Whether she came from nothing to something isn't the point... it's the fact that she didn't work for it or acheive it.

Unfortunatly I know plenty of people with worse backgrounds than Jade Goody who worked to better themselves.

As Fenster already said how did she not earn or work for it?

How different is she from Natasha Richardson really, both are performers who earned their money through playing a role.

And how do you define talent exactly?

Is the ability to kick a football around a field a real talent? Is the ability to beat someone up a real talent? What about the ability to roleplay somebody else?

Virtually all of the people we admire and look up to have talents that in reality don't equate to very much at all in terms of improving human society or bettering civilisation.

The ultimate acolades and plaudits these days go to entertainers, those people who do very well the things that entertain the masses, but yet in reality are completely and utterly pointless, so the ability to sing and look sexy on stage, the ability to play football, to box, to tell jokes, to act etc.

The most modern form of entertainment in 21st century Britain has been reality television, where 'ordinary' people get 15 minutes of fame.

Jade was just one of thousands of reality stars created over the past 10 years or so but unlike the rest of them she managed to capture the attention of the public, not just for 15 mins but from the moment she first appeared on our screens until her death.

Her book was a bestseller, amazingly her perfume range was a best seller, she turned herself into a million dollar plus brand name and even made stars of her family.

That IS talent. She has been more succesful than any other Big Brother contestent, probably in the world.

Not bad for someone who grew up with no qualifications, no prospects whatsoever and entirely the wrong uprbringing for success.

But to suggest she didn't earn her way is just ridiuclous.

[Andre]

Watched Ladettes to ladies last night the Aussie chick who won the crown said she was so impresed with Mrs Harcourts flower arranging that she has now taken up horticulture.

Mrs Harcourt didnt even crack a grin .

You know.."You can lead a whore to culture."

[BoomBoom]

Whats amazing is that around 200,000 people die everyday. Roughly 40,000 of those are children who die from starvation. About 4,000 die of AIDS. Cancer kills approx. 20,000. It is sad when mostly anyone dies, but the media decided Jade Goodys life was more newsworthy than the other 199,999. The media is what amuses me, her death doesnt impact me in any way though. If I died a week earlier I doubt she would have come on Saddoboxing and left me so much as an RIP. But f@ck it, since ive aleady wrote this much...RIP Jade

So you'd rather that when a famous person dies there's just a media silence then?

Not you, you may not give a shit but millions of others do so that's why its covered, FOR THEM.

It's such a non point, people box on fightcards for peanuts all over the world in bouts in front of 50 people or less but let me guess this weekend you watched Vitali Klitchsko and Roy Jones.

Why did you not create a thread praising Ugandan's John Sajabi for winning his pro debut at the Little Flowers Arena in Kampala last night? I see you've had plenty to say about Klitschko and Jones but no mention for the little guys eh.

And what about other sports? Where was your concern for the Paralympic champion Oscar Pistorious who was in a boating accident on Saturday?

Let me put it to you that you didn't mention either of these guys because you have never heard of them and therefore simply do not care.

Well that's how it is in life! Jade Goody is news simply because her death IS important news to millions of people. So the newstatsions cover it for them.

These anonymous statistics you quote arn't significant to millions of people as nobody knows who they are. It's simple common sense. Just as we on this forum arn't going to talk about an Yong Panduck beating Chin Manoy in Manilla in a 4 rounder neither are the newscasters going to tell us about poor Mary Eller who died in her sleep aged 46 from Turrberry Crescent in Stover, England.

The irony is that you ARE talking about Jade Goody more than those who just acknowledged her sad death and moved on. It's clearly news to you too if you find it important enough to talk about it.

Thats probably true, and that fact alone is sad. Probably just as much as her death. Just an observation about how human beings care too much about some things, and not enough about others and we give more value to somethan others. And undeservedly so. Myself included, ill gve you that.

[Kev]

Whats amazing is that around 200,000 people die everyday. Roughly 40,000 of those are children who die from starvation. About 4,000 die of AIDS. Cancer kills approx. 20,000. It is sad when mostly anyone dies, but the media decided Jade Goodys life was more newsworthy than the other 199,999. The media is what amuses me, her death doesnt impact me in any way though. If I died a week earlier I doubt she would have come on Saddoboxing and left me so much as an RIP. But f@ck it, since ive aleady wrote this much...RIP Jade

So you'd rather that when a famous person dies there's just a media silence then?

Not you, you may not give a shit but millions of others do so that's why its covered, FOR THEM.

It's such a non point, people box on fightcards for peanuts all over the world in bouts in front of 50 people or less but let me guess this weekend you watched Vitali Klitchsko and Roy Jones.

Why did you not create a thread praising Ugandan's John Sajabi for winning his pro debut at the Little Flowers Arena in Kampala last night? I see you've had plenty to say about Klitschko and Jones but no mention for the little guys eh.

And what about other sports? Where was your concern for the Paralympic champion Oscar Pistorious who was in a boating accident on Saturday?

Let me put it to you that you didn't mention either of these guys because you have never heard of them and therefore simply do not care.

Well that's how it is in life! Jade Goody is news simply because her death IS important news to millions of people. So the newstatsions cover it for them.

These anonymous statistics you quote arn't significant to millions of people as nobody knows who they are. It's simple common sense. Just as we on this forum arn't going to talk about an Yong Panduck beating Chin Manoy in Manilla in a 4 rounder neither are the newscasters going to tell us about poor Mary Eller who died in her sleep aged 46 from Turrberry Crescent in Stover, England.

The irony is that you ARE talking about Jade Goody more than those who just acknowledged her sad death and moved on. It's clearly news to you too if you find it important enough to talk about it.

Thats probably true, and that fact alone is sad. Probably just as much as her death. Just an observation about how human beings care too much about some things, and not enough about others and we give more value to somethan others. And undeservedly so. Myself included, ill gve you that.

But mate, ignore the fact that its Jade Goody, its just she was famous beforehand and always in the media limelight so everyone knows her.

And her death played out over weeks with millions watching heart wrenching documentaries about those final weeks.

They watched as she went through her treatment, they watched as she lost her hair and spoke about her illness and how she couldn't find it within herself to tell her children.

They then watched her get married, they watched her get christened to prepare for her death and then when the cameras finally stopped filming they heard news that she had finally passed away.

Remember millions of people watched all these documentaries, just as millions of people had spent maybe hundreds of hours watching her over the course of two Big Brother shows, numerous other documentaries and tv appearances over the years, had read her books etc.

So for those millions of people they felt like they did know her and her death was shocking.


Here on this boxing forum we care passionately about Ali. Sadly the day will come when he passes on and if you could imagine watching those final weeks being filmed on national television, so you we all saw him preparing his goodbyes and gradually getting worse it would be gut wrenching to see.

When he finally died we would demand that he got treated with the proper respect and would mourn his death with feelings of genuine grief (at least most of us).

Now others who care nothing about boxing or Ali might just post things on forums around the net calling him a draft dodger, and all other kinds of crap. It would anger you, it would be blatently disrespectful.


Now I'm not putting Jade Goody anywhere near the same level as Ali in terms of greatness or stature please understand me, I'm just saying that for millions her death was profoundly upsetting for them because they had followed her life for half a decade and witnessed those final weeks on television, in the newspapers and magazines etc.

So the outpouring of grief is very real, for many people.

Just because she means nothing to you, or me or Miles doesn't mean we should disrespect her and shout about how little we give a fuck or how worthless we thought she was.

Can't people just be respectful of someones death that's all I'm saying.

When someone dies who is associated with boxing or football and they have a minutes silence at Old Trafford or they ring the 10 count at Maddison Square Garden people remain silent and respectful even if they don't know who the person is.

It's just basic human courtesy, it has nothing to do with Jade it has everything to do with us as human beings.

Anyway I will get off my stool now I think I've lectured long enough that some of you are wishing it was me who passed away last week

[BoomBoom]

I agree, thats why I wont bash her. I dont care about what she did or didnt do. Children lost a mother, and that is sad. That said, all the people who tuned in to watched her demise, chose to do so. They were fascinated. People like drama and love to feel emotion. Just like if you watch a movie and become empathetic with the character, and then the character dies, you have sad feelings but you knew how the movie was going to end. Or a documentary about someone whos going to die. Any death is sad but it doesnt mean millions of people cared about her, it means millions of people watch to much tv....as for "The Greatest", I gonna leave that one alone....I do understand what your saying though Bilbo.

[X]

Dear Jackie,
I am so sorry to hear about your daughter Jade. I can't stop thinking about her little boys.
All my love,
Gary Glitter