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What great fighters fought without having an amature career?
No, not Marciano. He did have an amature career, though a strange one.
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I'm gonna go with Bernard Hopkins, his 'amateur' career being boxing in jail.
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Not bad. Never thought of him. I have two others in mind.
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Give me a clue, as I have got one, are they already in the HoF?
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Chavez Jr. " April Fools " !!!!
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I can't think of any that didn't have an amateur career, I can think of a couple that had very few amatuer fights, like Margarito & Paul Willaims :-\
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Pachuggers might correct me on this. But I think Manny went straight to pro-boxing from selling stolen cigarrettes. :dontknow: Jim Lampley also keep saying that he was a kickboxer first?
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JazMerkin
I'm gonna go with Bernard Hopkins, his 'amateur' career being boxing in jail.
I've heard that he had a few amateur fights either right after jail or right before going in.
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The baddest man in boxing right now ... Easily ... Nate Campbell!!!
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JazMerkin
Give me a clue, as I have got one, are they already in the HoF?
Think "J"
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Killa From Manila
Pachuggers might correct me on this. But I think Manny went straight to pro-boxing from selling stolen cigarrettes. :dontknow: Jim Lampley also keep saying that he was a kickboxer first?
What, Lampley was a kickboxer? HHhmmmm. :o:o:o:o:o
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Killa From Manila
Pachuggers might correct me on this. But I think Manny went straight to pro-boxing from selling stolen cigarrettes. :dontknow: Jim Lampley also keep saying that he was a kickboxer first?
What, Lampley was a kickboxer? HHhmmmm. :o:o:o:o:o
Lol! Lampley was referring Pac.
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JazMerkin
Give me a clue, as I have got one, are they already in the HoF?
Think "J"
James Toney only had 30 odd fights - George Foreman around 18 I think.
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Apologies for going slightly off thread, not a boxing great but Olo Afolabi never boxed as an amature.
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Olo Afolabi is not a bad one at all. But I have three in mind. :confused: :confused: :confused:
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What about Julian Jackson ? exactly how much quality amatuer experience is to be had in the Virgin Islands ;D
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JazMerkin
I'm gonna go with Bernard Hopkins, his 'amateur' career being boxing in jail.
I've heard that he had a few amateur fights either right after jail or right before going in.
I thought he learnt inside, came out had a pro fight which he lost, and then he spent the next year and a half training up in the basics in amateur sparriing or something.
On prison boxers, I think Dwight Muhammad Qawi was another one because I remember hearing he came out of pen & went pro, altho I might have him mixed up with someone else.
I'm gonna go with Jake La Motta as one as well based on the "J". I think they showed Marciano did have a short ams career of 15 fights or so, so I'm gonna go as well with some of the guys from that era like Ezzard Charles or Archie Moore. As you can see I am spreading my bets ;D
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Bernard Hopkins had an extensive amateur career, starting at the age of 10 and had reportedly 99 fights overall with a record of 95-4.
Just sayin'.
I think people like to glorify and romanticize it with the whole jail deal.
Bernard Hopkins | Profile and Bio | Canadastar Boxing
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Youngblood
Bernard Hopkins had an extensive amateur career, starting at the age of 10 and had reportedly 99 fights overall with a record of 95-4.
Just sayin'.
I think people like to glorify and romanticize it with the whole jail deal.
Bernard Hopkins | Profile and Bio | Canadastar Boxing
I stand corrected.
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Ricardo Mayorga
Mayorga was a Nicaragua amateur champ and Central American Golden Gloves champ with 103 reported amateur victories.
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What about Matt Skelton? I heard he only had a few other fights.
What about Audley Harrison, his amateur career is far from stellar ;)
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Earnie Shavers made his pro debut like a month after he joined a boxing gym.
Although he's just a great puncher, not a great fighter.
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Check out Lt hvy James Scott for a prison story.Basically in and out since a kid and as far as I know he had little to no amatuer background.Had many sanctioned and televised fights from behind the walls of Rahway prison with some top calibur fighters,Qawi,Muhammed,Lopez among others.
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Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
Check out Lt hvy James Scott for a prison story.Basically in and out since a kid and as far as I know he had little to no amatuer background.Had many sanctioned and televised fights from behind the walls of Rahway prison with some top calibur fighters,Qawi,Muhammed,Lopez among others.
Rahway is every boxer's favorite prison!!!
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One more hint. One of the three I have in mind (there may be others) was from Mexico.
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Tim Witherspoon
Nope,Spoon lost to Marvis Frazier in ammies
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Think Italian
Marciano?
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holmcall
Think Italian
Marciano?
No, but good effort. Think farther South........:confused::confused:.....think J
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Another clue is Emerald City
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That last clue was for a different J
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im not going to say he is a great fighter but rahman never had a amature career and won the hw title. not super impressive be better than i have done :)
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holmcall
That last clue was for a different J
Jake LaMotta??
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He was not great but Lionel Butler never had 1 amateur fight. He was at least somewhat of a heavyweight contender. And I don't think Tommy Morrison had an amateur career but I know he was in Toughman if that counts for anything.
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i know their not italian but
Julio Cesar Chavez Snr
Dwight Muhammad Qawi
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holmcall
That last clue was for a different J
Jake LaMotta??
No. another Italian by the name of Joey Giardello. There is no record of his having fought amature.
He was inducted into the IBHF in 1993 and was also inducted into theWBHF. His career record was 101 wins, 25 losses and 7 draws, but even more impressively, he was 5-3-1 against other boxers in the Hall of Fame, including a 2-2 mark against Dick Tiger.
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Giardello was born in Brooklyn but grew up in Philly.
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As for the the Emerald City clue, think OZ.