The toughest white guy on the planet!

I doubt many will have heard about him having such a short pro career, but I thought I'd start this thread anyway about an Irish Heavyweight named Joe Egan.

I real good friend of mine works with Joe's wife, whom I met last week. She kindly got me a signed pic from Joe of him standing next to Mike Tyson. Underneath the pic it says, 'Joe Egan, The toughest white guy on the planet' By Mike Tyson.

As I hadn't heard of him before I Googled him and came across the following article, it's a great read. Think I may get his book now....

Big Interview: Boxer Joe Egan | Sport | guardian.co.uk

Joe Egan

chuck norris is

Wayne McCullough is the toughest white guy, i've ever seen in the ring. He was inhuman.

Joe Grimm ;D.Poor guy was said to be a borderline tard and could not feel pain

Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.

Damn that was a good article; thx. for posting it Conrad. I think I'm going to order the dvd.

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Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.

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What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that :confused:

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Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.

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What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that :confused:

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I know man, it's crazy. I was thinking the same thing; I just couldn't remember the name of the guy{Collier}. It is bizarre though isn't it?;D Guess he had a bad day or something.

But after reading that article yeah, that Joe is one tough motherfukker to take daily or weekly beating from a young, ferocious Tyson. You know ICB; I always thought that guy who fought Tyson and lasted what was it, 6 rounds or so, was a tough sob. Think is name was Steve Zouski? He took some beating in that fight; thnk he was a coal miner from West Virginia?

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Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.

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What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that :confused:

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Giving Dee His Due

By Holmcall: Dee “Denorvell” Collier fought out of California during the 80’s and finished with a modest record of 12 (KO 8) - 9 (KO 1). He had a great chin and excellent power. His problem seemed to be that the level of his opposition might have been too good too quickly. Fighting guys like Buster Douglass, Monte Masters, Alex Garcia, Mark Wills and Eric Curry was not exactly tantamount to cherry picking. His one KO loss was to Nigerian bomber Bash Ali who won 30 of his last 31 bouts (all but one by way of stoppage), but who had a knack for losing when he stepped up..

Dee’s last career fight was a UD loss to Orlin Norris for the NABF heavyweight title on August 1, 1989. He went into that fight having iced Monte Masters, Bobby Crabtree and Garcia (his first loss) over a 6-month period. He also held two prior wins over Mark Wills who himself had stopped Greg Page twice. Clearly, Collier, who once had been the California State Heavyweight Champion, was not one to be taken lightly.

1985

Which brings us back to Reseda, California on October 29, 1985 when a younger Dee met iron-chinned Tex Cobb, 25-6 coming in, but having lost his last three to Eddie Greg, Michael Dokes (by TD), and Buster Douglass (MD loss).

The word was that if Cobb could score an impressive win over Collier, he might be in line for title bout against the heavyweight champion,Michael Spinks. Collier was seen as nothing more than an obscure club fighter and Cobb was heavily favored to score a decisive win. After all, Collier was coming off the aforementioned KO loss to Ali and a PTS loss to journeyman Mike Jameson.

But someone forgot to tell the 6’4’’ Collier who, once the bell rang, immediately used Cobb as a punching bag and knocked out the rugged Texan after a severe battering. Cobb’s legendary iron chin turned to glass in plain sight, as he became a human yo-yo and hit the deck 4 times within 2 minutes and 31 seconds of the fight. This was an old fashioned Texas dry-gulch with Tex being the ambushee. He was in the wrong place at the wrong time and never had a chance.

Later

After a two-year retirement, Cobb went on the heartland circuit and closed out his career (interrupted by another retirement) by going undefeated in his last 20 outings, though against poor opposition. One, a NC with Sonny Barch, became the subject of much controversy but that’s a story for another day. Suffice it to say that of his last 20 wins, 16 came by stoppage and he closed his career with a fine 43 (KO 36) - 7 (KO 1) -1-1 mark. As for Collier, he went 5-5 after the Cobb win, but he fough against much better opposition.

To this day, Tex Cobb remains a great fan favorite and a virtual legend in his own time, but a guy named Collier just kind of faded away. Yet for the many who worship at the Shrine of Cobb, let there be no doubt that he had his lunch eaten in Reseda on October 29, 1985 and the guy who did the eating should get his due as well.

i think where all forgetting charlie zeneloff here

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i think where all forgetting charlie zeneloff here

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That guy is a moonnsster for his weight.

Zeljko Mavrovic was pretty damn tough, gave Lennox Lewis all he could handle.....he's a bit more ethnic than Cobb or the Quarry brothers.

I second Wayne McCullough. Unrealistic toughness. Also you can't forget Mickey Ward.

One more to the list.Since I've watched that documentary last night. I'd now say Billy Collins JR. Fighting someone with stripped padding and plaster of paris. Was hit well over a hundred times in the face.Now that is just simply tough.

Yeah the Collier result was strange but not when you think of Cobbs history of facing fight fixing allegations

Arturo Gatti was the toughest white guy on the planet! RIP champ!

Well, in reality it's probably some SAS/Special Forces kinda guy, but if we're sticking to boxing & as only one person mentioned Gatti, I'm guessing it's Anglo-Saxons/Celts, so that rules out Gatti or Chuvalo, I will have to go for Wayne McCullough. Although I give an honourable mention to Freddie Roach, who in his fighting days was a seriously tough bastard who took some major punishment, look up his old fight footage if you haven't caught it.

I think you have to specify whether you are talking white or non-black.

Jake LaMotta has to be one of the toughest! Oh and Chuvalo!

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Damn that was a good article; thx. for posting it Conrad. I think I'm going to order the dvd.

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No problemo...

Thought I'd post up my pic I got from him too... :cool:

http://i119.photobucket.com/albums/o...ex/JoeEgan.jpg

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Tex Cobb could take a pounding; as could the Quarry boys. Billy Collins let's not forget took an animalistic mauling.

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What makes me laugh about Tex Cobb, is that he took the best that Ken Norton, Earnie Shavers, Larry Holmes. Had to offer without ever looking really hurt. Then he gets dropped 4 times by some journeyman Dee Collier, and is finished off in 1 round how the hell do you explain that :confused:

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I know man, it's crazy. I was thinking the same thing; I just couldn't remember the name of the guy{Collier}. It is bizarre though isn't it?;D Guess he had a bad day or something.

But after reading that article yeah, that Joe is one tough motherfukker to take daily or weekly beating from a young, ferocious Tyson. You know ICB; I always thought that guy who fought Tyson and lasted what was it, 6 rounds or so, was a tough sob. Think is name was Steve Zouski? He took some beating in that fight; thnk he was a coal miner from West Virginia?

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I think it was either a case of too much punishment catching up with Cobb or too many beers.

I think Mike just said it to him that Once to make him feel better about getting the shiit kicked out of him, I mean he probably never did go down and could take a good beating but to go round advertising yourself as the "toughest white man on the planet";D

Glen McCrory was only a cruiserweight and was a regular sparring partner of Mikes because he could stay upright;D

Does In Jin Chi count as white? He was tough but yeah, watching live, McCullough walked through some beatings, shame he had no power

Met him once he was sat behind me at the Hatton - Mauser fight... Really nice guy was cracking jokes with Scott Welsh and Jamie Moore and getting really annoyed with Ricky's lack of defence till the KO came.

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Met him once he was sat behind me at the Hatton - Mauser fight... Really nice guy was cracking jokes with Scott Welsh and Jamie Moore and getting really annoyed with Ricky's lack of defence till the KO came.

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Bet he loved the Pac fight:p

I can't agrue with McCollugh, Cobb and Ward.....

but what about Bobby Chacon? The punishment he could absorb was unreal. Sure he's a smaller guy, but the shots he took from Arguello, Limon and Boza-Edwards?????? That's my vote.

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Met him once he was sat behind me at the Hatton - Mauser fight... Really nice guy was cracking jokes with Scott Welsh and Jamie Moore and getting really annoyed with Ricky's lack of defence till the KO came.

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Bet he loved the Pac fight:p

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think the writing was on the wall for years hence the hit and hold tactics at the higher level ;)

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I can't agrue with McCollugh, Cobb and Ward.....

but what about Bobby Chacon? The punishment he could absorb was unreal. Sure he's a smaller guy, but the shots he took from Arguello, Limon and Boza-Edwards?????? That's my vote.

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Bobby Chacon's not white though, and neither is In-Jin Chi. Maybe im not understanding ?

In Jin Chi may not be caucasian but he has white skin and is as hard as nails;D

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In Jin Chi may not be caucasian but he has white skin and is as hard as nails;D

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He is for certain hard as nails, his 1st fight Michael Brodie was great. The 2nd one suprisingly was so one sided, and his brave effort against Erik Morales was quite a sight to see aswell.

I loved the Morales v Chi fight, Morales class would have always shone through but Chis was able to walk through Morales best clean shots and whack him back and bully him round, it was a fun fight to watch for sure;)

If they were the same weight, a fight between Chi and Mayorga would be outstanding:o;D

Toughest white guy was George Chuvalo

Wayne McCullogh had one of the best chins in the game i was amazed when he stud up to Naz's power shots.

Toughest white guy is Fedor. In boxing its probably Vitali.