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GBP claiming Mayweather vs Marquez will do more than 1M PPV Buys
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7Gpd...layer_embeddedI got to say this is an insult to boxing fan's intelligence. GBP & HBO put up this infomercial, buying air time as if it was genuine news. They didn't even bother to ask tough questions.
There is no way this fight will break 600k and I doubt it will break 500k.
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Yeah, that was pretty disgusting.
Floyd sold so well in his last two fights because of Hatton and DelaHoya. Mayweather against Marquez is not a megafight because these are two fighters whose paths were really not meant to cross. The public is not drooling at the mouth in expectation of this fight at all and I cannot see the PPV figures being anything special. There was no hype for a Mayweather/Marquez fight prior to the fight being made and this kind of drivel shows GBP trying anything they can to at least garner some level of respectability for it.
It's sad really. Over a million sales? Hilarious. ;D
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What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol
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miles
Yeah, that was pretty disgusting.
Floyd sold so well in his last two fights because of Hatton and DelaHoya. Mayweather against Marquez is not a megafight because these are two fighters whose paths were really not meant to cross. The public is not drooling at the mouth in expectation of this fight at all and I cannot see the PPV figures being anything special. There was no hype for a Mayweather/Marquez fight prior to the fight being made and this kind of drivel shows GBP trying anything they can to at least garner some level of respectability for it.
It's sad really. Over a million sales? Hilarious. ;D
Spot on mate, the real interest was never in this fight. It's a made up 'megafight' as opposed to a real 'by public demand' fight.
I think this one might end up being a bit embarassing in the end in terms of numbers.
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I believe they also said Mayweather-Hatton was projecting to do 1.5 million, and that ended up somewhere in the 850K range.
I think this fight does about 550-600K. Maybe a little more.
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Youngblood
What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol
The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.
Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.
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fan johnny
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Youngblood
What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol
The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.
Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.
I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.
They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.
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I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
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Of course what those guys say is an insult to hardcore boxing fans like us, but for the general public they are trying to sell the fight, so expect to see them hype up the fight.
500-600k ppv buys for this fight, somewhere around that range.
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Youngblood
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fan johnny
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Originally Posted by
Youngblood
What do you expect them to say? Cripe sakes, they are trying to promote a fight and garner interest in the sport we are all here for and love. I liked it actually, and hope it drums up more interest and does good numbers. No one promoting anything is insulting your intelligence. You think they are going to say, "Yea, well, this prob. isn't going to do so good, so yea, don't get too excited and think of buying it or anything." lol
The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.
Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.
I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.
They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.
Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.
As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.
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I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.
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I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.
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Marquez is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and people still ride Mayweather as though he has taken the easy route?
Marquez is the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 yet. He "beat" Pacquaio twice, somebody who people now think would do Floyd over but somehow Floyd has taken the easy route by taking on Pacquaio's achilles heel? That arguement doesn't make sense to me.
Miles, really?? Hatton made that fight sell 850k in the US? You think there are 850 thousand fat blokes in the US hanging around in english pubs playing darts who bought that fight? Come on mate..nobody gives a fuck about Hatton in the U.S.
Mayweather is a draw..nowhere near on the levels of De La Hoya or some other past fighters but he is a draw..even if only for the fact that people want to see him lose.
Saying that, this fight does nowhere near as much as 1 mill. I reckon 6-700k - Still a good figure
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blegit
I don't see why anyone is insulted by this take. Boxing is a business also and you must hype up each and every fight as much as possible. Keeping the fight in people's ears is called good promoting. Hit all avenues not just what some specific customer wants. I for one like the fact that fights are talked about as many places as we can get it. I am obsessed with boxing so I'm already in but this just helps the possible watcher learn what we have going on. And for the record, Marquez is the real deal. He is more of a problem than Hatton, Corrales, Castillo, Judah and maybe even a 154 lb. Oscar. Marquez is every bit as good as Pac so everyone pushing for the Pac/PBF fight should clearly see that Marquez is an equal threat. Marquez just doesn't have the hype and obsessed fans. The product quality itself is equal to Pac/Mayweather. Enthusiasts should know this and therefore the casual fans are the ones who need to hear that. I am really befuddled how people are taking Marquez so lightly. Like a joke even. If Floyd takes this way of thought then he will get his winning streak ended next week.
^ Thank you!! ^
Marquez is one of the best p4p fighters in the world and people still ride Mayweather as though he has taken the easy route?
Marquez is the biggest threat to Mayweathers 0 yet. He "beat" Pacquaio twice, somebody who people now think would do Floyd over but somehow Floyd has taken the easy route by taking on Pacquaio's achilles heel? That arguement doesn't make sense to me.
Miles, really?? Hatton made that fight sell 850k in the US? You think there are 850 thousand fat blokes in the US hanging around in english pubs playing darts who bought that fight? Come on mate..nobody gives a fuck about Hatton in the U.S.
Mayweather is a draw..nowhere near on the levels of De La Hoya or some other past fighters but he is a draw..even if only for the fact that people want to see him lose.
Saying that, this fight does nowhere near as much as 1 mill. I reckon 6-700k - Still a good figure
ex-fuckin-zactly!
People act as if without Hatton or Oscar Mayweather would be curtain jerking espn events.
He's a legit and proven draw. His fights with Hatton/Oscar did more than Pacquiao's against the same guys. That says something. & yeah yeah, economy, weight issues, undefeated records, witchcraft blah blah. But a draw is a draw is a draw no matter how much reasoning there is behind it.
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I dont see this fight as a farce, i see it as a good fight. Marquez has the skill to figure mayweather out because thats what he does. I think Marquez is less powerful version of Kostya Tszyu and timing is what you need to beat fast fighters like floyd and Marquez certainly has that.
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well.. we'll just wait and see if they break 1M buys.. the fight is just around the corner..
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Taeth
I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.
Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
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fan johnny
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Youngblood
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fan johnny
The insult is you are expected to believe that this was a news worthy story that transcends the normal bounds of the boxing world.
Promoting is one thing and propaganda is another. If fans are genuinely not interested in watching the fight, is lying to them going to make them more interested? Maybe, If your the type that stays up all night watching infomercials buying products that don't work.
I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.
They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.
Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.
As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.
You guys are so nauseating and tiring... really now you fukwits feel insulted??? Gimme a break! Youngblood hit it right on the head... The Unretired former PFP#1 Fighter in the world vs the reigning#2 A match between 2 of the greatest tacticians ever to lace them up. One coming off a 2 year layoff the other storming up a few weight classes and surging thru previous opponents and knocking them out for the 1 time.
Seriously I dont need to watch the video, judging by the detractors insinuating they feel INSULTED is enough to tell me where your brains are.. UP YOUR ARSES!!!!!
It's a made up 'megafight'
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I will go with Youngblood on that one; They are trying to promote the fight so they have to say the usual routine stuff, will break records, incredibly fight, perhaps one of the best of the century and so on.
Personally, I am not insulted by it... neither am I naive enough to buy their predictions, I would say that this fight will turn more around 372 000 buys, maybe 400K if they are lucky but not more than this, not for Mayweather or Marquez.
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I'd put the over/under at about half a million. I just can't see massive enthusiasm for this fight among the HBO subscription base.
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Taeth
I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.
Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.
I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.
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Youngblood
I just think it is very naive of anyone to feel insulted by this. This isn't tailored for those of us on this board, or in the know who have a handle on what is what. It is marketing, as you suggested. Aimed at bringing people to purchase the fight, and who knows, maybe even new people to the sport. Simple as. And you don't sell anything by being negative. You create hype and hopefully interest. The insult of intelligence imo is not seeing it for what it is and taking it as some kinda personal insult.
They were, umm, optimistic. oh noes.
Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.
As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.
You guys are so nauseating and tiring... really now you fukwits feel insulted??? Gimme a break! Youngblood hit it right on the head... The Unretired former PFP#1 Fighter in the world vs the reigning#2 A match between 2 of the greatest tacticians ever to lace them up. One coming off a 2 year layoff the other storming up a few weight classes and surging thru previous opponents and knocking them out for the 1 time.
Seriously I dont need to watch the video, judging by the detractors insinuating they feel INSULTED is enough to tell me where your brains are.. UP YOUR ARSES!!!!!
It's a made up 'megafight'
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Now that's insulting!
Might reach 500K-600K with all the hype.
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Taeth
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Rantcatrat
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Taeth
I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.
Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.
I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.
yet you constantly try to say that Oscar looked great against Forbes when you're trying to blow up Pacquiao's win :rolleyes:
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Your application is misconstrued, boxing fans are the buyers. If I walked into a car dealership looking for a muscle car and a salesman offered me a commute car (because that is what he had) telling me it was a sports car as a buyer I'd be insulted and leave. A person doesn't have to be naive to know what they want. It's not my intention to be negative about the fight. It's just part of my character to be honest and for me it crosses the line when it's a lie. I can do with out the BS.
As for marketing, I agree and think it's a very smart idea from HBO & GBP, and I'm sure they will reach some audiences with it, including those boxing fans that jump on the band wagon. If it breaks 1M PPV's, I'm happy for boxing! If it does less than 300K, I'll be happy for Marquez and very sad for boxing because the blame will likely go to the UFC. I'll also have some pity for Mayweather if it does that poorly but only a little.
You guys are so nauseating and tiring... really now you fukwits feel insulted??? Gimme a break! Youngblood hit it right on the head... The Unretired former PFP#1 Fighter in the world vs the reigning#2 A match between 2 of the greatest tacticians ever to lace them up. One coming off a 2 year layoff the other storming up a few weight classes and surging thru previous opponents and knocking them out for the 1 time.
Seriously I dont need to watch the video, judging by the detractors insinuating they feel INSULTED is enough to tell me where your brains are.. UP YOUR ARSES!!!!!
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Now that's insulting!
Might reach 500K-600K with all the hype.
Glad I could help;D
You guys act like this fight is an overpriced screwing and colossal waste of time, but yet Pac's minions and most others were happy to pony up $49.95 last year to see him smack around that tomato can David Diaz which was 10x the horseshit matchup:rolleyes:
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Is anybody saying this shouldn't be PPV? (I didn't read the first page and a half. ) Both Floyd and Pac have had worse PPV's than this.
I wouldn't be shocked by 750. Of course I have given it like 2 seconds of thought.
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ER-101
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JT Rock
You guys are so nauseating and tiring... really now you fukwits feel insulted??? Gimme a break! Youngblood hit it right on the head... The Unretired former PFP#1 Fighter in the world vs the reigning#2 A match between 2 of the greatest tacticians ever to lace them up. One coming off a 2 year layoff the other storming up a few weight classes and surging thru previous opponents and knocking them out for the 1 time.
Seriously I dont need to watch the video, judging by the detractors insinuating they feel INSULTED is enough to tell me where your brains are.. UP YOUR ARSES!!!!!
It's a made up 'megafight'
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Now that's insulting!
Might reach 500K-600K with all the hype.
Glad I could help;D
You guys act like this fight is an overpriced screwing and colossal waste of time, but yet Pac's minions and most others were happy to pony up $49.95 last year to see him smack around that tomato can David Diaz which was 10x the horseshit matchup:rolleyes:
It's not? :headscratch:
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Now that's insulting!
Might reach 500K-600K with all the hype.
Glad I could help;D
You guys act like this fight is an overpriced screwing and colossal waste of time, but yet Pac's minions and most others were happy to pony up $49.95 last year to see him smack around that tomato can David Diaz which was 10x the horseshit matchup:rolleyes:
It's not? :headscratch:
;)
:-*
Of course it is, we need more tough competitive PPVs like the much heralded, fan friendly Cotto-Jennings/Pavlik-Rubio double header ;);D
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Glad I could help;D
You guys act like this fight is an overpriced screwing and colossal waste of time, but yet Pac's minions and most others were happy to pony up $49.95 last year to see him smack around that tomato can David Diaz which was 10x the horseshit matchup:rolleyes:
It's not? :headscratch:
;)
:-*
Of course it is, we need more tough competitive PPVs like the much heralded, fan friendly Cotto-Jennings/Pavlik-Rubio double header ;);D
I didn't pay for it, and I never said it was a good PPV card, because it wasn't PPV worthy. ;D
Anything with Mayweather is a waste of my money, and I refuse to line his pockets.
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It's not? :headscratch:
;)
:-*
Of course it is, we need more tough competitive PPVs like the much heralded, fan friendly Cotto-Jennings/Pavlik-Rubio double header ;);D
I didn't pay for it, and I never said it was a good PPV card, because it wasn't PPV worthy. ;D
Anything with Mayweather is a waste of my money, and I refuse to line his pockets.
apparently not when he helps hold the record for most PPV buys, DLH didn't do it alone, other DLH fights that were already expected to have lots more entertainment value didn't sell as much as that fight
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Of course it is, we need more tough competitive PPVs like the much heralded, fan friendly Cotto-Jennings/Pavlik-Rubio double header ;);D
I didn't pay for it, and I never said it was a good PPV card, because it wasn't PPV worthy. ;D
Anything with Mayweather is a waste of my money, and I refuse to line his pockets.
apparently not when he helps hold the record for most PPV buys, DLH didn't do it alone, other DLH fights that were already expected to have lots more entertainment value didn't sell as much as that fight
I never said that Floyd didn't bring some of the numbers in, I know he has his fans, but the truth is, before he fought Oscar or Hatton, his highest ppv number was 374,000 against Zab Judah. He did 365,000 against Gatti, and 325,000 against Baldomir, so yeah he can claim that he's part of the ppv record, but it was mostly Oscar's doing.
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I didn't pay for it, and I never said it was a good PPV card, because it wasn't PPV worthy. ;D
Anything with Mayweather is a waste of my money, and I refuse to line his pockets.
apparently not when he helps hold the record for most PPV buys, DLH didn't do it alone, other DLH fights that were already expected to have lots more entertainment value didn't sell as much as that fight
I never said that Floyd didn't bring
some of the numbers in, I know he has his fans, but the truth is, before he fought Oscar or Hatton, his highest ppv number was 374,000 against Zab Judah. He did 365,000 against Gatti, and 325,000 against Baldomir, so yeah he can claim that he's part of the ppv record, but it was mostly Oscar's doing.
i say it has to do evenly with both, Oscar just being The Golden Boy and Mayweather knowing how to sell a fight
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I think this just shows how uneducated the boxing public is or rather the public is of boxing. I give Marquez a way better chance than I would have Oscar or Hatton. He was able walk roughly even with PACquiao twice and the boxing fans should realize weight isn't going to be a big factor in Mayweather's favor. He isn't a real welterweight, and he's counter puncher who doesn't fight the type of fight that is dictated with size and strength.
I disagree with you on that point. Out of the three, without knowing the outcomes of the ODLH and Hatton fights, I would give ODLH the best chance of beating PBF. His size and the fact that the fight was at 154 are what influence my opinion most. When all is said and done, I believe his split decision loss to PBF as opposed to Hatton's knockout (and Marquez's knockout imo) will be the closest fight with Floyd and will validate that opinion.
Weight will be a big factor although not in the way you are describing. In terms of size, Floyd is an average welterweight - there is a reason he has fought at that weight the last three years. However, that isn't why size will play the role. Size will play a role because Marquez isn't a welterweight or a junior welterweight. At his biggest, I believe him to be a big lightweight. Recall that Juan Diaz buzzed him a couple of times and he isn't known as a big punching lightweight (less than 50% knockout percentage). I believe Floyd chose Marquez as an opponent when there were better welterweight opponents out there with bigger names because he wanted a fighter he could impose his size and strength to create a knockout. He could have fought Cotto and he could have fought Shane. Both would have much bigger fights than Marquez, but he wouldn't have knocked out either of those fighters. In those fights, Floyd would probably fight his usual counter-punching style (what sense would it make to stand toe-to-toe with Shane?), but with Marquez he can afford to fight a "rougher" fight, which will do more for him in negotiations with Pacquiao if Pacquiao wins his upcoming fight.
Mayweather has foughten at welterweight and higher because he was chasing De La Hoya and titles in different weight classes, there is no other reason. Had he wanted to FLoyd could still be a lightweight. People have talked about him having a hard time making 130 and 135, but Mayweather was already lifting weights and increasing his size to move up.
I honestly saw Hatton as a bigger challenge than Oscar for Mayweather because Oscar didn't look super fast against Mayorga, he looked good, but not very fast. I also thought Mayweather would have used his speed more, but he stood right there a lot more against Oscar, he could have made it an easy night, but I honestly think he was trying to knock Oscar out.
He may have moved up to chase ODLH, but he has since decided it is his natural weight. It makes sense. Mayweather could have fought Marquez at 140 or 135 if he had wanted. He also could have fought Hatton at 140 because Hatton's natural weight was 140. In the case of Marquez, Marquez has never fought above 135. Instead, Mayweather chose to fight him around 147. It isn't random. There is a reason for it.
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I will be buying the PPV for this one, no crappy streams for this one fellas. ;D
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It's not as disgusting as watching that suck up leonard ellerby and knowing that probably 5 years down the road he's gonna be caught laundering and stealing 20 million dollars from Floyd's accounts. Something about that guy screams bankruptcy.
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Two ATG's what else do you want? This is for the true boxing fans that know good matchups.
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I will be buying the PPV for this one, no crappy streams for this one fellas. ;D
Agreed. Question fellas: what is the best way to record boxing fights from my digital cable to a dvd? I want to start creating a fight collection.
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I didn't pay for it, and I never said it was a good PPV card, because it wasn't PPV worthy. ;D
Anything with Mayweather is a waste of my money, and I refuse to line his pockets.
apparently not when he helps hold the record for most PPV buys, DLH didn't do it alone, other DLH fights that were already expected to have lots more entertainment value didn't sell as much as that fight
I never said that Floyd didn't bring
some of the numbers in, I know he has his fans, but the truth is, before he fought Oscar or Hatton, his highest ppv number was 374,000 against Zab Judah. He did 365,000 against Gatti, and 325,000 against Baldomir, so yeah he can claim that he's part of the ppv record, but it was mostly Oscar's doing.
I think that number is relative and runs in conjunction with exposure.. The more people he beats on the world stage the more people will tune in for future fights... I doubt anyone will touch the numbers of Tyson and Oscar
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I didn't pay for it, and I never said it was a good PPV card, because it wasn't PPV worthy. ;D
Anything with Mayweather is a waste of my money, and I refuse to line his pockets.
apparently not when he helps hold the record for most PPV buys, DLH didn't do it alone, other DLH fights that were already expected to have lots more entertainment value didn't sell as much as that fight
I never said that Floyd didn't bring
some of the numbers in, I know he has his fans, but the truth is, before he fought Oscar or Hatton, his highest ppv number was 374,000 against Zab Judah. He did 365,000 against Gatti, and 325,000 against Baldomir, so yeah he can claim that he's part of the ppv record, but it was mostly Oscar's doing.
And on that, it is Gatti who did drag all the assistance as Gatti was one of the most charismatic fighter and interestingly enough, one of those who did the biggest amount of headlines for HBO.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K7GpdxBG1uMI got to say this is an insult to boxing fan's intelligence. GBP & HBO put up this infomercial, buying air time as if it was genuine news. They didn't even bother to ask tough questions.
There is no way this fight will break 600k and I doubt it will break 500k.
well i hope so it would be great for the sport and even better if marquez beats him!!!!!! upset!!!!!! thats would be interesting
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apparently not when he helps hold the record for most PPV buys, DLH didn't do it alone, other DLH fights that were already expected to have lots more entertainment value didn't sell as much as that fight
I never said that Floyd didn't bring
some of the numbers in, I know he has his fans, but the truth is, before he fought Oscar or Hatton, his highest ppv number was 374,000 against Zab Judah. He did 365,000 against Gatti, and 325,000 against Baldomir, so yeah he can claim that he's part of the ppv record, but it was mostly Oscar's doing.
i say it has to do evenly with both, Oscar just being The Golden Boy and Mayweather knowing how to sell a fight
Well we will just have to agree to disagree on this one. ;D
Because, I say no way in hell was Mayweather responsible for bringing in 50% of the ppv buys for his fight against Oscar.
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Mayweather obviously doesn't have the draw of OScar or Tyson, but he did give Oscar his biggest PPV sales, and not just OScar but he gave the sport its biggest PPV sales. Oscar alone didn't do that, He definitely was the bigger reason why people tuned in, but Floyd was the opponent that made that many people willing to shell out 50$ to watch it.
