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He was outclassed, but the guy has a heart as big as a truck....he fought like a warrior. As a Klitschko fan there were times I was worried for him because Arreola put on constant pressure throughout the fight.
I hope Cris Arreola goes on to do good stuff in the division. I hope he stays dedicated and continues to fight at a high level.
Beaten like a drum.Out classed exactly.He's exactly what we thought he was,but he took the pain
I figured he would have been out MUCH sooner, but apparently the working out and the preparations helped Cris a bit, he seemed to be in good shape stamina-wise (still a bit flabby) but aside from getting hit so much I think he gave a great account of himself.
Hopefully this makes Cris train harder and maybe we could see an Arreola-Peter fight!
Props to Arreola for gutting it out when he was getting beaten up bad.
Arreola can still be some sort of alphabet HW champion, I mean the Klit bros don't have the WBA version right? If guys like Ruiz and Valuev can be HW "champs" then surely Arreola has a great shot.
Now you know why you don't have that beer, Cris.
Now you know why you eat healthy and leave the burrito and tacos out.
Now you know that acting tough is not the same as being tough.
Now you know that you have to train tough, diet tough, along with acting tough.
IT'S CALLED TOTAL DEDICATION TO YOUR CRAFT.
DIDICATION, LOOK THAT WORD UP, CRIS. Dedicate to eat right, dedicate to not put anything in your gut that is not benefitial to your performance, dedicate to make life for your family better .
I would hate to see anyone be able to pressure Wladimir like that....I mean I doubt Arreola would beat Wlad, but it's pressure like that that has tuckered him out in the past. Wlad, I think hits the hardest out of the two brothers (which is why his opponents are so willing to clam up)...I've never seen Vitali just bomb a guy out with one punch, it's usually an accumulation...but for Arreola to take that kind of punishment tells me Vitali needs to retire maybe after fighting the Valuev-Haye winner.
Sure Vitali was more tactical and technical, but in the olden days Vitali would have laid Cris low early on.
Cris has a huge heart, I just hope he doesn't go all Gerry Cooney on us and self destruct because he lost 1 fight vs one of the best in the World. Have a few Coronas, take a little time to heal up, and then get in shape and rededicate yourself.
.....wow way too many people crying in the fight game. What happened to those hard ass john Wayne, chuck Norris , I don't give a fuck bout yo mamma nig@&z. Now we have victor ortiz and this type of shit. Ah well nice try maybe I'll feel different when I'm sober.
I was about to make a thread similar to this. He earned my respect lasting as long as he did without giving in.
Arreola tried his best, but his skillset is sorely lacking. He applied pressure, but I don't think it was effective pressure at all. No head movement...just a case of plodding forward and taking punches on the guard. He would occasionally get close and Vitali would just tie him up. There were countless times when he could have pinned Vitali and unloaded a combination but Vitali was just allowed to circle freely. Arreola has heart, but he just isn't all that good a fighter. But fair play on him seeing it through as far as possible.
For me that was a quality showing from Klitschko and the best I've seen from him in a long while. He has great stamina for a big old guy and just keeps on flicking out the 1-2's and 3/4 punch combinations. No doubt that Vitali is the better of the Klit brothers. He really stomps on his opponents in a way that Wlad just seems too timid to do.
I would like to see James Toney have a go with Arreola in the very near future.
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Originally Posted by KalihiBoyHawaii
Also, Arreola demonstrated that he is extremely tough, both mentally and physically. He lost to a better fighter, he didn't lose because he wasn't tough enough.
Why would we want to see that? Peter should have blown Eddie Chambers out of the water. I'm on the brink of never wanting to see him again. Peter has to dig himself out of the grave so far as I'm concerned, but all Cris has to do for me is trim the fat off.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Cris maybe will train harder now.
Anyway It was a good fight but the holding that fight was deplorable, everytime Cris even got close he was held. I was under the impression that much holding is illegal, he would intentionally tie up Arreola or his arms to stop him from throwing inside, I thought that was illegal or at least you were supposed to be warned for it. Cris wasn't gonna win but I'm still wondering did anyone else notice all the holding?
Totally agree. I fought Vitali fought very well, but the holding is something that bugs me. I really wish referees would lecture fighters more about holding and then take points off if they continue to do it. It spoils the flow of a fight. I hate it when any fighter does it excessively, and like someone said on another thread, it should only be allowed if the fighter trying to hold is buying time becuase they are seriously hurt. It's an ugly habit that needs to be wiped out of the game, fights are only twleve rounds these days after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
If this guy would shear down 20-30 pounds he could make some solid disaster as it would mean more speed and more stamina, he showed a very tough heart and tough chin, now he just has to get the will to carry himself to the next level and he could become a champion in the middle run.
to tell you the truth I dont give Arreola any props.......The guy obviously had the boxing gift but chose not to give it 100% and that is why he lost.....I like what Lampley said at the end, something along the lines of you cant expect to beat world class fighters that basically stay in shape and train all year and you yourself take months off to enjoy the good life......
I think it is hillarious that Vitali's only compliment of Arreola was "Man I cant believe he took those shots and I couldnt knock him out sooner"
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Hmmm...they made an interview with Mike Tyson after the fight(on german tv at least)...and thats exactly what Tyson had said...a younger Vitali would have knocked Arreola out early...
It was very refreshing to see how emotional he got after the defeat, that shows big-time desire to reach the top. Most fighters can stay merely sullen after defeat, consoling themselves with the fact that they just made a fortune, but not Arreola. He had a full-blown breakdown of despair after the fight was stopped, and you could clearly see just how much it would mean to him to be world champion. :cool:
Maybe he will be the one to give the division a much wanted injection of passion and desire, and possibly remind people that being the recognized Heavyweight Champion of the boxing World is one of the most glorious titles in world sport, a fact that seems to have largely descended into obscurity with the viewing public over the last few years.
Respect to Arreola, and of course Vitali, who is almost surgeon-like with his breaking down of opponents. So patient and methodical, it may not always be pretty to watch, but you have to admire his skill in doing what he does so effectively.
No doubt Chris is a force to be reckoned with but in the last round he looked like a zombie with nothing but bullheaded determination keeping him locked in his forward gear while getting hit with everything Vitali threw and at this rate I feel Cris would have would have went down if the fight had went on. Well anyway David Tua is getting back into the mix maybe we could see him and Chris dance.
Glad they stopped it. Cris was taking way too much punishment and he had no chance of winning. Hope to see Cris again. Vitali and Wlad are pretty much unbeatable at the moment and until they retire or fight each other, there's not any real challenge to them.
Wouldn't mind seeing Cris fight Wlad. I expect he would lose, but he's got a much better shot of tiring or catching Wlad.
Well #1 After this fight Cris is going to need to beat another name oppponent and Sam Peter is still a name and he still has power and a decent chin #2 Sam Peter looked like shit vs Eddie Chambers a BOXER, Arreola is no boxer, he's a tough S.O.B who always wants the KO....I think the styles match up well. Eddie Chambers has a solid defense, he'd be difficult for Arreola to beat to be honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killface
Both of them need to get in shape though.
In regards to the Vitali-Arreola fight, I think people overlook Vitali's seeming lack of power...to me he looked a little older and it wasn't just the grey hair, that fight may have worn Vitali down a bit for the next fight he has, I hope I am wrong though. That's a lot of moving and punching for an injury prone older fighter.
I think Arreola could have been 25 lbs leaner and it would not have made a difference.He has improven on his boxing but could not match Vitalis skillset.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
Actually Vitali said Chris was very preparred for the left jab and was suprised by his movement,he had a great chin and he had big respect for him....maybe he was just being nice,but he showd respect afterwards.....lampley should stick to calling punches that do not land.
Agreed Spicoli, Arreola showed everything he had in his arsenal and I think he could have planned forever for this fight and Vitali would still have picked him apart. I was impressed with Arreola's conditioning, he was still throwing good hard punches after the 8th which is the farthest he's ever been in a fight before. Arreola's defense was pretty good, he didn't allow for the usual Vitali combination swat the guard down & right cross...Cris did everything he could have, the style and skillset just put him at a disadvantage, but IMO he did the best since Lennox Lewis or Corrie Sanders vs Vitali.
I think Larry Merchant called the fight very fair even though he was 100% cheering for Arreola, that's impressive seeing how Larry usually just speaks his mind and he's usually dead damn wrong. But in this case he gave Vitali lots of respect and never had any delusions of grandure about Arreola during the fight. Props to Larry for that.
By the way FUCK Mark Kriegel! He wrote a scathing article about Cris Arreola and he even mocked Cris getting emotional. It's obvious that asshole knows little about boxing and for him to have no respect for a guy that laid it all out on the line like that it's just uncalled for.
Arreola didn't punch enough to beat Klitschko - Boxing News - FOX Sports on MSN
Like too many reporters they place too much blame on the opponents of the Klitschko's and give the Klitschko's too little respect...."Arreola didn't punch enough"....well it's kind of fucking hard to do that Mr. Kriegel when you're getting slammed by a 6'7 252 pound knockout machine...oh Vitali may look "mechanical and vulnerable" but the only losses on his record are due to injuries and even then Vitali was ahead on both scorecards! Nobody has made Vitali look vulnerable, not Lennox Lewis, not Corrie Sanders, not anyone and those guys blasted him with some heavy shots.
So I say again FUCK MARK KRIEGEL...keep your simpleton ass away from boxing!
CA is made to order for Wlad. One right hand shot down the piuke and BAM, it's lights out!! :deadnew:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
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Agreed I thought he was going to go sooner but like you said he seemed prepared.
I though Chris looked the best physique wis that I can remember another 15lbs and he would actual;ly look decent for a HW.
He showed heart I just hope he did not leave his best in the ring in the result of a beating.
I am an Arreola fan now based on his effort alone, he is no push over and with a bit of work has a future
....eh I think if you're going to KO Arreola you're going to have to sit him down a couple times.
The pressure Arreola was applying would worry Wladimir more than it bothered Vitali...Wlad likes to set his feet and punch
How about Vitali's output?? He was almost on pace to hit 1,000 thrown if it went the distance.
He was throwing 80-90 a round. I thought he might gas out and Arreola have a chance, but Vitali never slowed down. Really impressive performance by VK
props? what props is there to give a man who can't show up in shape for a championship fight and puts up a fucking dire performance?
Because people get props for taking punishment and get dissed for avoiding punishment nowadays.Quote:
Originally Posted by sumkalambay
Go figure ;D
Very surprising workrate mate, especially at his age. The Klits have had a few boring fights between them and I myself have said so but you have to respect the discipline and dedication to boxing they both show. I wonder how long Vitali will fight on for? He looked about 28 last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
All these people slating Chris for crying are fools and would probably shit in their shorts at the sight of Vitaly stood opposite them.
Same here Daxx, I'm sure he has earned a lot of fans from his effort last night. I hope he fights Haye in the near future (should he dispose of the hairy one), perfect match up in my mind.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Agreed I thought he was going to go sooner but like you said he seemed prepared.
I though Chris looked the best physique wis that I can remember another 15lbs and he would actual;ly look decent for a HW.
He showed heart I just hope he did not leave his best in the ring in the result of a beating.
I am an Arreola fan now based on his effort alone, he is no push over and with a bit of work has a future
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Originally Posted by KelVery surprising workrate mate, especially at his age. The Klits have had a few boring fights between them and I myself have said so but you have to respect the discipline and dedication to boxing they both show. I wonder how long Vitali will fight on for? He looked about 28 last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
All these people slating Chris for crying are fools and would probably shit in their shorts at the sight of Vitaly stood opposite them.
I think he was wearing gloves aswell. The bastard!Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyI think 90 percent of those punches were jabsQuote:
Originally Posted by KelVery surprising workrate mate, especially at his age. The Klits have had a few boring fights between them and I myself have said so but you have to respect the discipline and dedication to boxing they both show. I wonder how long Vitali will fight on for? He looked about 28 last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
All these people slating Chris for crying are fools and would probably shit in their shorts at the sight of Vitaly stood opposite them.
I would like to see Haye Vs Arreola myself, I pick Chris to win by KO.Quote:
Originally Posted by KelSame here Daxx, I'm sure he has earned a lot of fans from his effort last night. I hope he fights Haye in the near future (should he dispose of the hairy one), perfect match up in my mind.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Agreed I thought he was going to go sooner but like you said he seemed prepared.
I though Chris looked the best physique wis that I can remember another 15lbs and he would actual;ly look decent for a HW.
He showed heart I just hope he did not leave his best in the ring in the result of a beating.
I am an Arreola fan now based on his effort alone, he is no push over and with a bit of work has a future
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Originally Posted by Majesty
Cris "Crybaby" Arreola.....:'(
So he got emotional about the fight...can you blame him? Better for him to have emotion than to fold up shop like Sam Peter.
Well first off it was a better fight then i was thinking it be. Vitail to me is better then his brother is his out put and footwork was great. I mean for his size and age I thought his movement was great. As for Arreola i think his reaction at the end of the fight and during the fight was refreshing. I mean i havent seen any passion in a hw fight against bros for a while now.
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Agreed. I must admit though we all laughed and hit rewind 4 or 5 times to hear that tearful explanation ......." fuck!!!"
It was awesome.
Yeah the crying was understandable, he was fighting for history and for pride....he was emotionally invested up until the end which usually doesn't happen against the Klitschko's.
Wlad and Vitali usually beat the fight out of their opponents...that wasn't the case with Arreola, he kept coming forward and kept trying for the KO even though he was seriously overmatched when it came to skill, experience, and power.
I hope after the Klitschko's unify, they let a belt slip away to Cris Arreola, he deserves a shot at one vs someone he has a better shot at beating.