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Are you a lefty (not as in Leftylee) or a righty?
I was just curious to know where we all see ourselves politically. This is not a thread about which hand we prefer to use for writing or leg we use for kicking a ball.
Personally, I see myself as very much left of centre. I believe in universal health coverage, widespread nationalisation of key services, tax redistribution and equal opportunities for all particularly in terms of getting a good education.
The only righty aspect I have is an aversion to the culture of entitlement that seems to exist in the UK. Too many people willing to scrounge off of the government and not get an education nor work. I don't like that. But in times of hardship I do expect previously hardworking people to have support whilst they look for new work.
It's a simple poll, so get your votes in....
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anti-immigration, anti-gay - probably right of centre as i wouldnt mind teaching the world to sing!!
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I would describe myself as a moderate left winger, disagreeing always or almost always with the right and disagreeing all the time with ultra left winger too, so yeah, place me somewhere into the moderatre left winger basket, more or less.
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anti-immigration, anti-gay - probably right of centre as i wouldnt mind teaching the world to sing!!
I think the UK is a bit mad on immigration too. I don't really mind about the gays though.
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I should have created a whole new section of the poll for out and out hippies!
Nah, just kidding. Like I said elsewhere I don't mind hippies just as long as they don't blow smoke in my face nor talk to me. :p;D
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I'm very left-wing in some areas and right-wing in others. Primarily I would say I'm left wing, but I don't understand how some people can be so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other.
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anti-immigration, anti-gay - probably right of centre as i wouldnt mind teaching the world to sing!!
How can someone be anti-gay in this day and age?
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anti-immigration, anti-gay - probably right of centre as i wouldnt mind teaching the world to sing!!
How can someone be anti-gay in this day and age?
He probably lives in London or Korea.
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I'm very left-wing in some areas and right-wing in others. Primarily I would say I'm left wing, but I don't understand how some people can be so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other.
In what ways are you right wing?
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I'm very left-wing in some areas and right-wing in others. Primarily I would say I'm left wing, but I don't understand how some people can be so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other.
That's my thoughts as well.. Very hard to pick one side and agree with everything it stands for and be against everything it doesn't.. I think that's called brainwashed..
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I'm very left-wing in some areas and right-wing in others. Primarily I would say I'm left wing, but I don't understand how some people can be so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other.
In what ways are you right wing?
And who are the people who are so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other? I find that quite a curious statement to make.
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I'm very left-wing in some areas and right-wing in others. Primarily I would say I'm left wing, but I don't understand how some people can be so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other.
In what ways are you right wing?
Well, I'm against monarchies...
I believe in stiff punishment for some crimes. I've always heard libertarianism referred to as a right-wing ideology; now I'm not a libertarian, but I believe people should pretty much be able to do what they want in their private lives (ie legalization/decriminalization of drugs etc.).
Edit: I'm also against a stong, centralized government. That's something I've always associated with the American right-wing, so I guess that could be considered a right-wing belief as well, though it seems to run counter to most right-wingers opinions.
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I'm very left-wing in some areas and right-wing in others. Primarily I would say I'm left wing, but I don't understand how some people can be so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other.
In what ways are you right wing?
And who are the people who are so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other? I find that quite a curious statement to make.
I didn't mean anyone specific, it was just a general statement.
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I'm very left-wing in some areas and right-wing in others. Primarily I would say I'm left wing, but I don't understand how some people can be so wedded to an ideology that they're completely one or the other.
In what ways are you right wing?
This brings us to a more important subject.
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...-red-wing.html
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Pretty much an independent.Have views on either side of the spectrum and believe people get to tied up in party affiliation,doctrin.
Pro immigration,pro choice...think alot of the zealots would have sounder footing if they cared as much anfd fought as hard for the infants,young kids living in extreme poverty and being raised in shooting galleries just as equally but I am not opposed to the right top bare arms :cwm13:.Think the homeless get shit on and contrary to somes views...its not a choice for some!.....not for afirmative action,I think many of who shout racism at the drop of a hat do the past generations a disservice.I like peace.But there is a time to fight...not in favor of Iraq conflict and think Bush was a puppet on strings ...but believe we should have turned areas of Afghanistan into parking lots and taken off the PC gloves.I'm heinz 57 I guess you can say.
Lean heavy in favor of enviroment as well and think we are in too much of a hurry to build,build,build with little foresight.How many empty strip malls do you pass while driving??I partake in da herb but heres one.....would not be in favor of legalization.Last thing I want is the Federal Government growing my shite
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I'm with ya on Afghanistan, Spicoli. I think the unified forces largely missed the boat on that now. I know a lot of Canadians are whining about being there, but I think we needed to be there from the get-go. Could have cut the head off that extremist body before it began growing arms all over the place.
Then again, I don't have anyone I know in Afghanistan, or have personally lost people as other Canadians in that fight, so I suppose it is subjective.
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I'm not a fan of made up wars either. The war in Iraq was based upon lies and the media being fed a series of mistruths. Afghanistan had more justification but there war there appears to have been a long drawn out disaster. A lot of money has been spent on these wars and it's money the American people just don't have. Quite disgusting really.
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anti-immigration, anti-gay - probably right of centre as i wouldnt mind teaching the world to sing!!
Yeah, the BNP are a bit more than right of centre :-\
I'm like most people. Liberal on some shit, conservative on others. Probably fairly left-wing, although I voted for the leftylee option.
On Afghanistan, the problems with rising extremism have largely come about through the sheer short-sightedness exhibited by those in charge when they first went in. Rather than getting a united front, they simply paid off the main warlords onto their side, without thinking about the consequences down the road when they actually wanted to establish a Government. Plus Karzai is one corrupt motherfucker, basically a Tony Montana in charge of a city, funnelling out enormous amounts of heroin.
The war had justification & the Taleban had to go, they were about as loathsome a group as there's been on this planet, but the tactics employed by the Allies have turned a lot of people in favour of the Taleban, who previously couldn't stand the bastards.
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I was left wing during college days. It was the norm in the university I attended. In terms of armed struggle, I guess I'm in between. I don't support the left nor the right wing.
In terms of being critical with what the administration is doing, I'm a full bloodied leftist. I can't stand politicians, red tape, bureaucracy, and corruption.:cool: I'm vocal with my opposition against the current administration in the Philippines but I won't go to armed struggle as some of my classmates and acquaintances had already done.:-\
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I was left wing during college days. It was the norm in the university I attended. In terms of armed struggle, I guess I'm in between. I don't support the left nor the right wing.
In terms of being critical with what the administration is doing, I'm a full bloodied leftist. I can't stand politicians, red tape, bureaucracy, and corruption.:cool: I'm vocal with my opposition against the current administration in the Philippines but I won't go to armed struggle as some of my classmates and acquaintances had already done.:-\
None of those things are limited to right-wing politicians unfortunately. In fact, as I'm sure Lyle will not hesitate to tell you, often times left-wing governments involve more bureaucracy than right-wing ones because they have many more government-run social programs etc.
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I was left wing during college days. It was the norm in the university I attended. In terms of armed struggle, I guess I'm in between. I don't support the left nor the right wing.
In terms of being critical with what the administration is doing, I'm a full bloodied leftist. I can't stand politicians, red tape, bureaucracy, and corruption.:cool: I'm vocal with my opposition against the current administration in the Philippines but I won't go to armed struggle as some of my classmates and acquaintances had already done.:-\
None of those things are limited to right-wing politicians unfortunately. In fact, as I'm sure Lyle will not hesitate to tell you, often times left-wing governments involve more bureaucracy than right-wing ones because they have many more government-run social programs etc.
Not if you're in the Philippines.:-X
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I didn't put an answer, because like most honest people I have views of both sides of the fence depending on the issue. I can't agree fully with the left because it is the party of bigger national government how many czar's does a Federalist Republic need? I can't fully agree with the right, because their foreign policy is horrible and their ridiculous deregulation tactics lead to rampant corporatism. Both lead to market failures if left to run for too long regardless of what either side tells you.
My view on government (and I strongly believe this) is that we need to maintain a pendulum effect so neither side can be allowed to govern to result in these failures.
On personal liberties I feel strongly support Gay Marriage although I believe it should be decided on a state to state basis, pro-choice (studies show it lowers violent crime), legalization of marajuana. My leftist views on personal liberty are what I am primarily judged by. I do classify myself as a liberal, but in the same way the founding fathers were. On the right I strongly support protection of the 2nd amendment (Right to bear arms), I also think that states rights are far overlooked and the Federal Government is able to collect more power because state governments are neglected by a majority of citizens.
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I have no loyalty to any of the pathetic bastards , i would be happy for a revolution , blood will be spilled.
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I'm mostly left wing although some of the far left infuriates me.
On social matters I'm as liberal, if that's the word, as possible. Don't have any issue with gay marriage, etc. I try to be pragmatic so to speak in foreign policy stuff, I'm not a pacifist but there are no need for we're kind of bored wars. You can object to Iraq on any number of levels, forget the moral issue (not saying you should necessarily) if you just look at it with a cold blooded view of does this help or hurt the national interest it doesn't pass the test. The world would have been better off without the creation of Israel just in terms of security IMO but I don't see anything good coming out of just demonizing one side and saying the others are the be all, end all. Its done, Israel's there, not going away, hammer something out, although I don't see any reason for optimism.
Economically I think I'm kind of middle of the road which probably makes me a lefty in America. I'm for universal health care, some sort of fair tax system although you can't mention redistribution here, but I'm not really a protectionist or anything.
I don't have any issue with immigration and don't care about white people becoming a minority here or losing our "national culture" whatever that is. I can't say I've given too much thought about whether I'm against a strong centralized gov't, I guess I would say that I'm not.
I've decided to be against the death penalty mainly just because of the dumb fuckism and irresponsibility of people involved in the process. Some people probably deserve killing but its too messed up a system. Disturbed by abortion, I guess I'm pro-choice though.
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I'm mostly left wing although some of the far left infuriates me.
On social matters I'm as liberal, if that's the word, as possible. Don't have any issue with gay marriage, etc. I try to be pragmatic so to speak in foreign policy stuff, I'm not a pacifist but there are no need for we're kind of bored wars. You can object to Iraq on any number of levels, forget the moral issue (not saying you should necessarily) if you just look at it with a cold blooded view of does this help or hurt the national interest it doesn't pass the test. The world would have been better off without the creation of Israel just in terms of security IMO but I don't see anything good coming out of just demonizing one side and saying the others are the be all, end all. Its done, Israel's there, not going away, hammer something out, although I don't see any reason for optimism.
Economically I think I'm kind of middle of the road which probably makes me a lefty in America. I'm for universal health care, some sort of fair tax system although you can't mention redistribution here, but I'm not really a protectionist or anything.
I don't have any issue with immigration and don't care about white people becoming a minority here or losing our "national culture" whatever that is. I can't say I've given too much thought about whether I'm against a strong centralized gov't, I guess I would say that I'm not.
I've decided to be against the death penalty mainly just because of the dumb fuckism and irresponsibility of people involved in the process. Some people probably deserve killing but its too messed up a system. Disturbed by abortion, I guess I'm pro-choice though.
I have a lot of the same views really.
In terms of Israel I accept that it is now there, but the continual building of settlements and the blind eye the world shows to this is unnaceptable. Imagine if the U.S. wanted to build a new U.S. city and just plant it on Canadian soil and use the U.S. military to defend it. Nobody would think that okay, and yet Israel has been doing this for years now. This is where I an see pressure and perhaps force being neccessary from the International community.
In terms of protectionism I do wish the U.S. would wise up some more. Korea imports next to nothing from the states and yet is able to export huge amounts of cars and electronic products. Even the i-phone has been kept off the market until Korean companies could develop something more along those lines. Now the market has been saturated with Korean crap they are apparently letting the i-phone in. It will no doubt flop. I don't believe in protectionism, but the U.S. should definitely do something to control massive trade imbalances. At least start building things people want and when they do make sure other markets are as willing to take in as they are to export where they already make bundles of cash freely. The trade balance with China must be insane.
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I have no loyalty to any of the pathetic bastards , i would be happy for a revolution , blood will be spilled.
agreed
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I have no loyalty to any of the pathetic bastards , i would be happy for a revolution , blood will be spilled.
agreed
They tried that in Germany about 80 years ago. I don't want to give away the ending, but it didn't go well for them.
Edit: That wasn't directed at you Al.
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I have no loyalty to any of the pathetic bastards , i would be happy for a revolution , blood will be spilled.
agreed
They tried that in Germany about 80 years ago. I don't want to give away the ending, but it didn't go well for them.
Edit: That wasn't directed at you Al.
it was meant as tongue in cheek mate
Im all about love and harmony tonight ;D;D;D
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agreed
They tried that in Germany about 80 years ago. I don't want to give away the ending, but it didn't go well for them.
Edit: That wasn't directed at you Al.
it was meant as tongue in cheek mate
Im all about love and harmony tonight ;D;D;D
I'm all for revolution, however I'm pretty sure the movements we seek would be incompatible with one another.
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They tried that in Germany about 80 years ago. I don't want to give away the ending, but it didn't go well for them.
Edit: That wasn't directed at you Al.
it was meant as tongue in cheek mate
Im all about love and harmony tonight ;D;D;D
I'm all for revolution, however I'm pretty sure the movements we seek would be incompatible with one another.
yep
on a personal level i dont have race issues, dont wanna lynch gays, dont believe women should be forced back into the kitchen
just pissed off with how the UK is being run by someone who has no idea what he is doing and is best of being blairs lacky!!
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it was meant as tongue in cheek mate
Im all about love and harmony tonight ;D;D;D
I'm all for revolution, however I'm pretty sure the movements we seek would be incompatible with one another.
yep
on a personal level i dont have race issues, dont wanna lynch gays, dont believe women should be forced back into the kitchen
just pissed off with how the UK is being run by someone who has no idea what he is doing and is best of being blairs lacky!!
To be fair, I don't know enough about how the UK is being run to have a valid opinion. However, I am completely opposed to everything I have read about that right-wing party that gained some votes last time out. I forget their name.
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I'm all for revolution, however I'm pretty sure the movements we seek would be incompatible with one another.
yep
on a personal level i dont have race issues, dont wanna lynch gays, dont believe women should be forced back into the kitchen
just pissed off with how the UK is being run by someone who has no idea what he is doing and is best of being blairs lacky!!
To be fair, I don't know enough about how the UK is being run to have a valid opinion. However, I am completely opposed to everything I have read about that right-wing party that gained some votes last time out. I forget their name.
British National Party
party full of race hating facists that would very much enjoy seeing blacks and whites completely segregated and the creation of ghetto type neighbourhoods.
Dont agree with their policys at all but people sick and tired of mass migration and unemployment are protest voting and BNP seems to be benefiting from that
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I'm with ya on Afghanistan, Spicoli. I think the unified forces largely missed the boat on that now. I know a lot of Canadians are whining about being there, but I think we needed to be there from the get-go. Could have cut the head off that extremist body before it began growing arms all over the place.
Then again, I don't have anyone I know in Afghanistan, or have personally lost people as other Canadians in that fight, so I suppose it is subjective.
We..well the politicos mucked it up from jump off. I dont think the Bush administration and to a degree tha American public had the deep intention of truly doing what it would take and the patience to do it to render them impotent.The emotions and fury after 9/11 was manipulated and they pulled a fast one going into Iraq.The Military had its hands tied behind their backs,used as props and sent out to win 'hearts and minds'....sound familiar......rather than being let off the chain and taking the initiative.Know thats not a world wide view but you cannot have it both ways,its proving obvious.The scenario is becoming a mirror of Vietnam in many ways.Thought we would have learned fron the Soviet invasion,not to mention how our support and funding helped produce the ones we are now fighting.The catch 22 of fighting an entrenched force blended with civilians,trying to win it from the sky at points and an aversion to committing boots on the ground....knowing that more would not come home.It really is a fooked up situation which is coming home to roost right now.Canadians,Brits and Americans have increasing casualties not to mention the countless civilian casualties just trying to live day to day.The days of massed forces all wearing different uniforms,lining up in climes with a defined front line are looooong gone.....Its been 8 + years though,think the barn door is wide open and the situation has morphed into a hydra.
Take the gloves off,commit what is needed,tell Musharif (?) of Pakistan to piss off and stop the slow bleed,hit the Taliban leaders where we know they are..............or just cut the shite & bring them all home!!Honestly dont know if their is a 'winning' scenario...especially militarily.But we are knee deep in it now.Thats a fact.
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yep
on a personal level i dont have race issues, dont wanna lynch gays, dont believe women should be forced back into the kitchen
just pissed off with how the UK is being run by someone who has no idea what he is doing and is best of being blairs lacky!!
To be fair, I don't know enough about how the UK is being run to have a valid opinion. However, I am completely opposed to everything I have read about that right-wing party that gained some votes last time out. I forget their name.
British National Party
party full of race hating facists that would very much enjoy seeing blacks and whites completely segregated and the creation of ghetto type neighbourhoods.
Dont agree with their policys at all but people sick and tired of mass migration and unemployment are protest voting and BNP seems to be benefiting from that
Goddamn racists giving fascism a bad rep...
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yep
on a personal level i dont have race issues, dont wanna lynch gays, dont believe women should be forced back into the kitchen
just pissed off with how the UK is being run by someone who has no idea what he is doing and is best of being blairs lacky!!
To be fair, I don't know enough about how the UK is being run to have a valid opinion. However, I am completely opposed to everything I have read about that right-wing party that gained some votes last time out. I forget their name.
British National Party
party full of race hating facists that would very much enjoy seeing blacks and whites completely segregated and the creation of ghetto type neighbourhoods.
Dont agree with their policys at all but people sick and tired of mass migration and unemployment are protest voting and BNP seems to be benefiting from that
You voted for them!!! I'm sorry, you say you have no race issues & then vote for as you call them 'race hating fascists'. A protest vote could have gone anywhere else, there's dozens of parties, hell even UKIP are better.
I can't take anyone seriously who votes for a political party that tells me that the country that I love & am proud of is not my home. That basically I & a lot of my family need to fuck off back to whatever wog country we came from.
People in my family have died serving this country & the fact people who call themselves patriots vote for a group run by Nazi supporters disgusts every part of me.
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To be fair, I don't know enough about how the UK is being run to have a valid opinion. However, I am completely opposed to everything I have read about that right-wing party that gained some votes last time out. I forget their name.
British National Party
party full of race hating facists that would very much enjoy seeing blacks and whites completely segregated and the creation of ghetto type neighbourhoods.
Dont agree with their policys at all but people sick and tired of mass migration and unemployment are protest voting and BNP seems to be benefiting from that
You voted for them!!! I'm sorry, you say you have no race issues & then vote for as you call them 'race hating fascists'. A protest vote could have gone anywhere else, there's dozens of parties, hell even UKIP are better.
I can't take anyone seriously who votes for a political party that tells me that the country that I love & am proud of is not my home. That basically I & a lot of my family need to fuck off back to whatever wog country we came from.
People in my family have died serving this country & the fact people who call themselves patriots vote for a group run by Nazi supporters disgusts every part of me.
A lot of their agenda is based upon fear and hate. Particularly regarding immigrants and non-whites. It is a foul organisation and no person should associate with that kind of thing.
I believe that immigration needs to be monitored and controlled, but in no way could I ever advocate hate based on race.
We have a group like the BNP in Korea, except their modus operandi is to hate on white English teachers. They aren't a political party but they have over 17,000 members and have clearly influenced government policy regarding native speakers. New teachers not only have to provide a criminal check but also a drug check and an HIV check in order to "protect the children" despite no children ever being harmed here by native speakers. The Koreans on the other hand do harm the children and yet they don't get checked. The groups leader is even called Chairman Lee by the ministry of justice. What's more the media listens to every distorted thing they say and so even in the mainstream media we are portrayed as drug addicted seductors of Korean women. Investigations show that most of these stories are made up as the native speaker involved never has a name nor even a criminal record. The stories are often unverifiable.
This group is the most popular searched group on Korea's Naver cafe, so a lot of people are reading this hate propaganda. One human rights laywyer (native speaker) has filed a 70 plus page dossier on why this group should be investigated as a hate group and filed it with the human rights commision. It's a great piece of research, but with the group working within the government too I have a hard time seeing it make an impact.
Groups like this make me so mad. I'm a decent guy, happily married, am highly educated and work hard. And yet this godawful piece of work would like to lump all foreigners as the same AIDS ridden, debauched lowlives that they would like us to be. Any person involved in or advocating a hate group should take a long hard look at themselves before ever trying to target others based on the colour of their skin. It's cowardly and base.
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I am right handed.
My father is left handed. My mother is right handed.
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Well, I'm against monarchies...
I believe in stiff punishment for some crimes. I've always heard libertarianism referred to as a right-wing ideology; now I'm not a libertarian, but I believe people should pretty much be able to do what they want in their private lives (ie legalization/decriminalization of drugs etc.).
Edit: I'm also against a stong, centralized government. That's something I've always associated with the American right-wing, so I guess that could be considered a right-wing belief as well, though it seems to run counter to most right-wingers opinions.
That seems pretty libertarian to me. Which I think is the "best" way to go in many aspects. But all systems are flawed and corruptible, because all systems are run by people.
I think the government should have control over companies and get rid of the gluttonous wealth that individual people to possess enough wealth and power to and then afford lobbyists to control the government, at least in aspects that benefit them. But that's exactly why it will never happen, because by nature those with wealth want to protect and maintain that wealth.
But that's where a governments power should stop. Probably about 1 cent out of every tax dollar that goes into the government ever comes out doing what it was "intended" for. The other $0.99 rest up funneled out through various channels of waste, bureaucracy, and corruption.
The US is pretty much influenced by special interest groups that don't represent the average citizen. Politicians are influenced by the special interests/lobbyists or else they don't get re-elected or votes.
In my opinion, speaking on America only, most voters are pretty ignorant and don't realize that for whatever they vote for they are just perpetuating the system already in place.
That's why I don't vote :-X
