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He's a 19 year old welterweight prospect with a record of 29-0 by 22ko. Full article at Mayweather vs Alvarez in Mexico? Schaefer Says Maybe - Boxing News
Is this some sort of joke:o. He needs to fight a top welterweight not a 19year old i hope this is wrong.I like Floyd but this is a joke if he fights this guy.
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God, that Richard Schaefer is such an arsehead!
I truly hope that is NOT a fight we see in 2010. Even the Mayweather fans will blush reading that tripe! ;D
Saul Alvarez beat Corlos Baldomir in the amateurs. He's very dangerous and Mayweather is taking a big risk. I see "Canelo" as a very grown up 19 yr old, with a great left hook.
This.... would.... cement.... Floyd Mayweather Jrs.... Legacy.
.... Along with the rematch with Sharmba Mitchell and Gatti.
Floyd is the former p4p king and argubaly still is he shouldnt be facing a 19 year old that hasnt proved nothing.
Read the actual interview with Bill Emes which was a few days back, it was actually discussed as a fight that could take place about two years from now.
Fighting him now just makes no financial sense, that's why it won't happen, certainly not now. It couldn't possibly have anything to do with GBP being Alvarez' co-promoter that this is even being mentioned. I think its pretty much a tactic to raise Alvarez' profile.
Mayweather fights the Pacquiao/Cotto winner. Fact.
No way this happens anytime soon, Canelo is an exciting throwback fighter though, I enjoy all his fights. He is one of the main reasons I miss the Tecate Fight Nights on telefutura.
I would assume fans of Hatton like the starter of this thread would appreciate him.
Alvarez is the future of the welterweights
Mayweather 10 times the all around skill but Canelo is a brick shite house waiting to explode.Dont know if Floyd wanst that risk.If he's still with GBP they are doing a poor job with big Stateside exposure right now.
Hey if he could beat Carlos when he was 3 years old that is pretty impressive.Quote:
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Doubt it...
I can't believe people are really feeding into this article. PBF is going with the biggest money fight and that is Pac. If Cotto wins then its Cotto. Maybe the Alvarez kid is really the draw they say and the fight is being cooked up in a couple of years. But an Alvarez fight is just being mentioned, probably to hype him up, so lets not get all anti-PBF when PBF didn't even say anything in this article. Lets be realistic, the money in a Pac fight will not be ignored.
Haha, Baldomir in the Amateurs was a great win for Alvarez.
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But if it happens you will try and defend him nonetheless. :)
Yea sure thing pal.......:headscratch:Quote:
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Originally Posted by JT Rock
But if it happens you will try and defend him nonetheless. :)
I seriously doubt the fight is gonna happen.
But why do I get the feeling if it was Mosley fighting him they'd say Mosley is giving a young gun a shot and should be credited for his willingness to fight anyone in a high risk low reward fight. if it was Berto they'd give him credit as well. But if its Mayweather "he should fight a top welterweight" :)
Im willing to bet if that article had Mosleys name in it, no one would complain they would attribute it to his willingness to fight anyone and give him credit for giving the kid a chance.
That said, no way Mayweather fights him at this point.
That's cuz Mosley really has nothing left to prove. He's always actively search for the big fights. I don't agree with all the criticism Mayweather gets, but there is no doubt Mosley has faced the tougher opposition through out his career. And not by a little. His resume of fighters faced destroys Mayweather'sQuote:
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Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat's cuz Mosley really has nothing left to prove. He's always actively search for the big fights. I don't agree with all the criticism Mayweather gets, but there is no doubt Mosley has faced the tougher opposition through out his career. And not by a little. His resume of fighters faced destroys Mayweather'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Whats your rundown of everyone that Mosley's faced? Here's the people I can think of from the top of my head that are great opposition. De La Hoya, Forrest(lost twice), Wright(lost twice), Vargas, Cotto(lost) and Margarito. In your opinion should we give all that credit to a resume if you faced them and lost or is it just the matter of fighting them that they should get all that credit for? Of those 6 top guys Mosley has fought he lost to three of them. that makes him 3-3.
If i ran down Mayweathers list, he beat G. Hernandez(we can rank him at about Vargas level if you like) Carlos Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Castillo, Judah and Baldomir are getting a mention because you cannot blame them for their standings in the division at the time Floyd fought them, De La Hoya, Hatton and Marquez. Floyd has beaten them all and still has time. Considering his next 2 opponents are likely to be Pacquiao and Mosley. Mayweather within his next 2 or 3 fights would have a resume that beats Shane's especially if Floyd wins all those fights. Agree or disagree?
I agree with some of that to a point, but you left Jesus Chavez off Floyd's list & John John Molina, Phillip Holiday & Jesse James Leija off Shane's. I'd say right now Shane has the slight edge in terms of quality of opposition, but obviously success rate plays into that for a lot of people. If Floyd fought Pac/Cotto & won, I'd say his was marginally better. If he then beat the winner of Shane/Berto, it would be quite a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Hmm well I'd think if we put John John Molina, Phillip Holiday and Jesse James Leija on Shanes that we can put Gatti's name on Floyds along with Jesus Chavez whom you mentioned as well. Don't know if we'd put Corley on Floyds list, he was a champ but I don't know if we can really consider him that top.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI agree with some of that to a point, but you left Jesus Chavez off Floyd's list & John John Molina, Phillip Holiday & Jesse James Leija off Shane's. I'd say right now Shane has the slight edge in terms of quality of opposition, but obviously success rate plays into that for a lot of people. If Floyd fought Pac/Cotto & won, I'd say his was marginally better. If he then beat the winner of Shane/Berto, it would be quite a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Corley was nowhere near the level of Leija, Holiday & Molina, who were all extremely accomplished fighters with Hall of Famers on some of their resumes. I guess Gatti & Chavez can go on there, but the Gatti that Floyd fought was not on the same level as Holiday or Leija that Shane fought IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyHmm well I'd think if we put John John Molina, Phillip Holiday and Jesse James Leija on Shanes that we can put Gatti's name on Floyds along with Jesus Chavez whom you mentioned as well. Don't know if we'd put Corley on Floyds list, he was a champ but I don't know if we can really consider him that top.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI agree with some of that to a point, but you left Jesus Chavez off Floyd's list & John John Molina, Phillip Holiday & Jesse James Leija off Shane's. I'd say right now Shane has the slight edge in terms of quality of opposition, but obviously success rate plays into that for a lot of people. If Floyd fought Pac/Cotto & won, I'd say his was marginally better. If he then beat the winner of Shane/Berto, it would be quite a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Success rate is a huge factor on strength of resume. Yes Mosley has fought the better fighters overall so far, but he has lost to half of them. As i said in another thread if its purely done on who you have fought and not on success then it would probably be some journeyman that has the best resume in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI agree with some of that to a point, but you left Jesus Chavez off Floyd's list & John John Molina, Phillip Holiday & Jesse James Leija off Shane's. I'd say right now Shane has the slight edge in terms of quality of opposition, but obviously success rate plays into that for a lot of people. If Floyd fought Pac/Cotto & won, I'd say his was marginally better. If he then beat the winner of Shane/Berto, it would be quite a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
It doesn't matter if he won or lost. It's the fact that Mosley was willing to fight anybody. No matter what. Mosley took fights with Forrest and Wright when he didn't have too. He didn't have to fight Collazo when he did. And to this day he still chases the big fights. So it's hard to knock Mosley if it was he who was taking the Alvarez fight. Cuz his career opponents says it allQuote:
Originally Posted by MajestyQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseThat's cuz Mosley really has nothing left to prove. He's always actively search for the big fights. I don't agree with all the criticism Mayweather gets, but there is no doubt Mosley has faced the tougher opposition through out his career. And not by a little. His resume of fighters faced destroys Mayweather'sQuote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
Whats your rundown of everyone that Mosley's faced? Here's the people I can think of from the top of my head that are great opposition. De La Hoya, Forrest(lost twice), Wright(lost twice), Vargas, Cotto(lost) and Margarito. In your opinion should we give all that credit to a resume if you faced them and lost or is it just the matter of fighting them that they should get all that credit for? Of those 6 top guys Mosley has fought he lost to three of them. that makes him 3-3.
If i ran down Mayweathers list, he beat G. Hernandez(we can rank him at about Vargas level if you like) Carlos Hernandez, Diego Corrales, Castillo, Judah and Baldomir are getting a mention because you cannot blame them for their standings in the division at the time Floyd fought them, De La Hoya, Hatton and Marquez. Floyd has beaten them all and still has time. Considering his next 2 opponents are likely to be Pacquiao and Mosley. Mayweather within his next 2 or 3 fights would have a resume that beats Shane's especially if Floyd wins all those fights. Agree or disagree?
But the point wasn't about the resume. The question was asked "why wouldn't Mosley get the criticism that Mayweather gets if it was he who was considering the Alvarez fight".Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89Success rate is a huge factor on strength of resume. Yes Mosley has fought the better fighters overall so far, but he has lost to half of them. As i said in another thread if its purely done on who you have fought and not on success then it would probably be some journeyman that has the best resume in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI agree with some of that to a point, but you left Jesus Chavez off Floyd's list & John John Molina, Phillip Holiday & Jesse James Leija off Shane's. I'd say right now Shane has the slight edge in terms of quality of opposition, but obviously success rate plays into that for a lot of people. If Floyd fought Pac/Cotto & won, I'd say his was marginally better. If he then beat the winner of Shane/Berto, it would be quite a bit better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
oh ok, fair enough. I retract my statement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseBut the point wasn't about the resume. The question was asked "why wouldn't Mosley get the criticism that Mayweather gets if it was he who was considering the Alvarez fight".Quote:
Originally Posted by ryanman89Success rate is a huge factor on strength of resume. Yes Mosley has fought the better fighters overall so far, but he has lost to half of them. As i said in another thread if its purely done on who you have fought and not on success then it would probably be some journeyman that has the best resume in boxing.Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
only on place mayweather fights and thats vegas