Who do you think was better ? and who do you think had the better resume ? both men dominated one division, both men had incredible skill. So who takes it ?
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Who do you think was better ? and who do you think had the better resume ? both men dominated one division, both men had incredible skill. So who takes it ?
both were terrific technicians and i admire both of them. canizales in particular had a beautiful style.
that said, i think canizales was the better fighter. a bit more versatile in technical skills and more athletic.
Good post im a big fan of Ricardo Lopez, but Orlando Canizales was just as skillful as Ricardo Lopez if not more skillful. He could punch in angles so well, i love the way he'd step to the side to find openings. And his footwork was top notch aswell.Quote:
Originally Posted by sumkalambay
I don't think theres much difference in there opposition, except that Ricardo Lopez did manage to win a world title by moving up, where as Orlando Canizales didn't. Although he did come so close against Wilfredo Vasquez.
When amat sees this he'll think you're talking to yourself.
Oh well thats his problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
By the way im liking that Harold Shand picture ;)
I remember back in the day when poor old Billy Hardy was robbed against Canizales.
Shows how good Naz was. Fact.
Or even better that Naseem Hamed dominated Wilfredo Vasquez, a fighter who beat Orlando Canizales. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
True. Fact. That gave Naz the featherweight lineage.Quote:
Originally Posted by ICBOr even better that Naseem Hamed dominated Wilfredo Vasquez, a fighter who beat Orlando Canizales. Fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
ricardo lopez was great while orlando canizales was just a notch below. but both made many successful title defenses. finito had a total of 22 while canizales had 16 which in any era is very impressive. both were great, great technicians but i have to say i think lopez was just a little better.
both great fighters, Canizales was a bit sharper and a bit more polished but IMO Lopez packed a bit more power, which is what i felt helped him move up in weight, my pick is Lopez
i've always wondered how a Calderon/Lopez fight would be at 108
Finito!
Two of the more consummate professionals you will ever find,two pleasures to watch and under stated Champions in a very long time.
Hate to pick but would def have to go with Lopez.He had the extra something special in combination punching,finishing crisp and sharply.Not to mention consistency being in Lopezs favor.Canizales was a stellar champion,a workmans workman but unlike Lopez had been involved is a couple of very debatable descisions....the first Hardy fight and his record breaking 16th defense with 10 fight upstart Sergio Reyes.Reyes fought with little respect and tons of abandon, after getting clipped and dropped with a right hand he rebounded and hung with the long time Champion on more than equal footing,staying in his chest mostly.Helluva fight,but had Reyes taking that one.
Orlando may have tipped the scales in regards to level of competition..the weight struggles dictated it and he benefited from high network visibility since early on.Both Lopez and Canizales were a bit deprived of that much sought after "super fight" with fellow stars.He got Junior Jones when both were off there rises and that fight would have been a dream fight at Bantamweight years earlier....unlike Orlando, Lopez resisted the urge and fans pleads to climb a weight class and biggest foe was Rosendo Alvarez who gave him his toughest fight.....likewise a matchmakers dream would have been a mega showdown between Lopez and Michael Carbajal , Gonzalez or even a Yuri Arbachakov.Call em two of the best in last few decades.Though Canizales had more exposure and was a very fine fighter,Lopez will and should go down as an all time great.
Finito:thumb:
Lopez. He's clearly top 20 all time. Canizales is not
Ricardo Lopez, he's one of the most complete fighters in history for me. Canizales was an excellent fighter, possibly as someone said that bit more athletic, but for me Lopez was just that bit better overall. No real difference in their level of competition.
No question Ricardo Lopez , the most complete fighter ive ever seen.
Canizales was good, but Lopez was great. He had better power and better boxer.