Should Manny Pac go ahead with the blood test?

This thread is a spin off of the other one debating the pros and cons of the latest Pac/PBF hiccup. Seemingly Arum is now saying the fight is off. I think both fighters should meet their obligations really. Floyd must keep to the set weight, but I also think that Manny should adhere to rigorous drug testing if that is what Floyd wants. If both men are submitting the test then I don't really see Manny's argument for refusing.

So, just a simple poll to see where opinions are at. Should Manny go with the full drug check, or is he right to say no?

Well if it was me and I was not using steroids I would agree immediatley to set up the biggest payday of my career and setup one of the biggest fights in history.

Funny thing is, after all the demands Pacs team have made in his last few fights regarding weights and so on, when they recieve a demand themselves they go running. I really hope he is not a steroid user as he seems such a good ambassador for the sport but I have to admit that the reaction to Mayweathers demands (which Floyd has agreed to do himself) have got me seriously wondering about Pac. Then again maybe he see's it as an easy way out of a good beating???

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Well if it was me and I was not using steroids I would agree immediatley to set up the biggest payday of my career and setup one of the biggest fights in history.

Funny thing is, after all the demands Pacs team have made in his last few fights regarding weights and so on, when they recieve a demand themselves they go running. I really hope he is not a steroid user as he seems such a good ambassador for the sport but I have to admit that the reaction to Mayweathers demands (which Floyd has agreed to do himself) have got me seriously wondering about Pac. Then again maybe he see's it as an easy way out of a good beating???

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I have to agree with everything but the last part. I am starting to get suspicious myself now. I don't think it is that Pac is afraid to fight PBF. The blood testing refusal, which is the most reliable way to go for steroids, is undeniably suspicious. There is no real reason to not submit to blood testing. It will only back up your innocence or guilt.

Does having some blood taken affect your athletic performance? If it doesn't there is absolutely no reason what so ever not to have a blood test. Even if it does affect you a little, it will be cancelled out if the Mayweather has one too as he would experience the same thing.
Seems very fishy to me.

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.


Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Anyway, wouldn't it be better to test this way? If Manny or Floyd wanted to cheat, they could do it 29 days before the fight. Allegedly, Aaron Pryor did it 3 minutes before the end of one of his fights :-\

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Originally Posted by Grinch

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

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Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

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I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

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Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

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Usain Bolt? Blood Tests? Really?!
That's a lot of blood, are you sure about that? :-\

To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

But really, 5 - 6 times...!? I'd be offended to the point of resignation :D

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I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

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Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

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Usain Bolt? Blood Tests? Really?!
That's a lot of blood, are you sure about that? :-\

To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

But really, 5 - 6 times...!? I'd be offended to the point of resignation :D

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Jim,

They take the equivalent of less than a tablespoon of blood. According to the USADA who would administer the tests, it replaces itself within an hour at most. Bolt was tested 6 times in the space of 10 days I believe. Still made no difference to him.

The key points about it weakening Manny are offset anyway by the fact Mayweather will have exactly the same test on the same day as Manny. So unless he has special regenerating powers, it will affect him just the same.

Also there are two reasons why they shouldn't be allowed to set the times when they take the tests. One is that you can cycle the PEDs to fit the testing schedule, it's like say you were growing weed in your garden & you knew exactly when the Police were coming round, you wouldn't leave it open to viewing at that time would you. The other is the use of masking agents. These can be administered to cover any type of PED in the blood & urine, however you wouldn't want to use it throughout training as many of them lead to dehydration or nausea. You could however administer it directly after a fight to cover anything taken as is my understanding.

Anyway, I'm not saying Manny is doing this, hopefully this gets resolved, but if he ignores a $40m payday because of this, there will be serious questions.

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To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

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Mayweather isn't asking for the drugs testing to be exclusively for Pacquiao. He will undergo the same tests so would be affected equally.
Do you think it is at all suspicious that he isn't willing to be tested closer to the fight?

Being a huge Mayweather fan I have to say no. These requirements are aimed at nothing but insulting Pac. Everything they can test for can be detected in urine and drawing blood can affect hydration. There's no need for it, do random testing on urine and everyone should be happy.

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Being a huge Mayweather fan I have to say no. These requirements are aimed at nothing but insulting Pac. Everything they can test for can be detected in urine and drawing blood can affect hydration. There's no need for it, do random testing on urine and everyone should be happy.

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Urine testing doesn't detect the number of red blood cells. To do this, a blood sample is needed. Drugs like EPO boost red blood cell production.

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Mayweather isn't asking for the drugs testing to be exclusively for Pacquiao. He will undergo the same tests so would be affected equally.
Do you think it is at all suspicious that he isn't willing to be tested closer to the fight?

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Na i make you and Jaz right. Thanks for the info.
I am now desperate for some good news on this :-\

Yes he should, there is no reason not to.

Yeah so do I. I thought it all going too smoothly. Hopefully I can be signed soon

I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously????

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

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I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously????

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

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If Mayweather takes the same tests at the same time, then there is no advantage physically as to the tests. Should a full drug screen be mandatory? Maybe it should be for title fights. It's not as if there is no history of performance enhancer use in boxing.

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I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously????

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

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If Mayweather takes the same tests at the same time, then there is no advantage physically as to the tests. Should a full drug screen be mandatory? Maybe it should be for title fights. It's not as if there is no history of performance enhancer use in boxing.

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I hear ya Killer, but i still think everyone reacts differently to blood tests... I get extremely lethargic and ill during and after a minor blood test, my wife on the other hand doesnt' even bat an eye... Everyone is not the same...

If boxing impliments this type of drug screening for just Title fights, how can anyone say one fight is more important then the other... Anyone putting their body at risk is just as important as the next... I agree,There is a history of PED's being used, but that history wouldn't be known if they didn't still get caught...

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I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously????

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

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I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

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I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously????

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

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I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

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I definitely agree with Boxing needs to be more stringent... I don't agree with Floyd being the reason why this test is happening... If this was implimented by the commission of boxing and applied to the rules of all professional Fights, i would say nothing...

But this is not the case... This is Floyd trying to control PAC and cause a ripple in his performance...

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I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously????

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

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I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

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I definitely agree with Boxing needs to be more stringent... I don't agree with Floyd being the reason why this test is happening... If this was implimented by the commission of boxing and applied to the rules of all professional Fights, i would say nothing...

But this is not the case... This is Floyd trying to control PAC and cause a ripple in his performance...

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So PAC shouldn't take the drug test for political reasons? Why is ok for the commission to ask for it and not Mayweather?

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I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously????

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

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I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

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I definitely agree with Boxing needs to be more stringent... I don't agree with Floyd being the reason why this test is happening... If this was implimented by the commission of boxing and applied to the rules of all professional Fights, i would say nothing...

But this is not the case... This is Floyd trying to control PAC and cause a ripple in his performance...

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A blood test is not controlling anybody, it is the performance in the ring that is the controlling factor. Floyd has agreed to make weight, now Manny should accept a few proper checks for once in his life too. It's not that big a deal, and for high level fights where fighters ask for this, then the same procedure should be applied. Commisions cannot be relied upon for everything and when the stakes are this high then the fighters deserve their say.

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I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

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I definitely agree with Boxing needs to be more stringent... I don't agree with Floyd being the reason why this test is happening... If this was implimented by the commission of boxing and applied to the rules of all professional Fights, i would say nothing...

But this is not the case... This is Floyd trying to control PAC and cause a ripple in his performance...

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A blood test is not controlling anybody, it is the performance in the ring that is the controlling factor. Floyd has agreed to make weight, now Manny should accept a few proper checks for once in his life too. It's not that big a deal, and for high level fights where fighters ask for this, then the same procedure should be applied. Commisions cannot be relied upon for anything and when the stakes are this high then the fighters deserve their say.

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Fixed it for ya.

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I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

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I definitely agree with Boxing needs to be more stringent... I don't agree with Floyd being the reason why this test is happening... If this was implimented by the commission of boxing and applied to the rules of all professional Fights, i would say nothing...

But this is not the case... This is Floyd trying to control PAC and cause a ripple in his performance...

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A blood test is not controlling anybody, it is the performance in the ring that is the controlling factor. Floyd has agreed to make weight, now Manny should accept a few proper checks for once in his life too. It's not that big a deal, and for high level fights where fighters ask for this, then the same procedure should be applied. Commisions cannot be relied upon for everything and when the stakes are this high then the fighters deserve their say.

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Proper checks? so all the testing that has gone on for years are no longer proper checks??

I do not agree the stakes are higher in title fights then any other professional fight... The safety of ones life as a journeyman is no less valuable then an undefeated fighter trying to protect is loss column.

If this type of testing was implimented throughout the entire sport like it is in the olympics then i will shut my mouth... But it isn't and a Boxer is a Boxer... Pac is no more important then any other professional fighter... And no amount of money changes the level of importance in a fighters safety...

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I definitely agree with Boxing needs to be more stringent... I don't agree with Floyd being the reason why this test is happening... If this was implimented by the commission of boxing and applied to the rules of all professional Fights, i would say nothing...

But this is not the case... This is Floyd trying to control PAC and cause a ripple in his performance...

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A blood test is not controlling anybody, it is the performance in the ring that is the controlling factor. Floyd has agreed to make weight, now Manny should accept a few proper checks for once in his life too. It's not that big a deal, and for high level fights where fighters ask for this, then the same procedure should be applied. Commisions cannot be relied upon for anything and when the stakes are this high then the fighters deserve their say.

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Fixed it for ya.

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Haha, thanks! ;D

i voted YES

pac should be tested so those who claim pac is on some form of ped will be silenced. but the random thing is a bit too much, it will surely mess up his training.

its now safe to say that pbf is scared of pac, this is the first time pbf pulled all sorts of stuff just to get the upper hand on his opponent.

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i voted YES

pac should be tested so those who claim pac is on some form of ped will be silenced. but the random thing is a bit too much, it will surely mess up his training.

its now safe to say that pbf is scared of pac, this is the first time pbf pulled all sorts of stuff just to get the upper hand on his opponent.

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You really think he is scared? Going on what has taken place it would seem that Floyd played a gambit and knew Pac would flinch and here we are. I don't see Floyd looking all that scared at this juncture.

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i voted YES

pac should be tested so those who claim pac is on some form of ped will be silenced. but the random thing is a bit too much, it will surely mess up his training.

its now safe to say that pbf is scared of pac, this is the first time pbf pulled all sorts of stuff just to get the upper hand on his opponent.

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this is the only stand out request he's made, and it's not a ludicrous one either, if Manny isn't on anything he has nothing to fear (I personally think he's clean) but the way he's going about halting the fight screams the complete opposite, the fact that Mayweather himself is willing to go through the same exact process should basically cancel out any bullshit excuse that Pacquiao has to not taking the blood tests, if anything when he comes out negative it'll only ensure that the winner of the fight is the clear cut best, so don't see what the drama is all about

Of course he should. The big fucking girl's blouse.

But various reports out there I read is that random testing will be done even prior to 24-48 hours to the fight. So the Pacquiao camp is against this. I really wish we have some medical experts here on the subject of taking blood out, will it affect some sort of performance in regards to stamina, power, etc.

Mayweather's style conserves stamina and he doesn't need power to dominate a fight.

I say Pacman agrees to it, but the last random blood testing should be done a few days before the fight and then have one immediately after the fight. I seriously doubt Pacman can mask that.

And let's not compare Olympic sports like Track and Field to pro boxing. Usain Bolt isn't in a prize ring getting punch in the head.

i voted yes and it looks very dodgy him not wanting to take the test if hes got nothing to hide then agree to do the test end off

While drugs are illegal in sport of course there should be stringent testing (either that or legalise it and save all the hassle), but expecting Pac to undergo more stringent tests than the rest of the sport where the only evidence against him is slanderlous hearsay started by his next opponents dad is a bit much IMO.

i voted yes lets just get this fight made

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While drugs are illegal in sport of course there should be stringent testing (either that or legalise it and save all the hassle), but expecting Pac to undergo more stringent tests than the rest of the sport where the only evidence against him is slanderlous hearsay started by his next opponents dad is a bit much IMO.

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10 million dollars per pound overweight is also a bit much.

As much as I agree with Manny that the contract should stipulate a huge amount of money per extra pound (just to not pull another Marquez-a-like trick), 10 millions per pound was highly exaggerated. Greedy punky Floyd accepted. TO accept an olympic test in return is not over-exaggerated. If it's good for Olympian, why couldn't it good for boxers as well?
To me, the argument that it would be a "premiere" is not exactly good enough to justify a total no to the whole thing. As a matter of fact, I would even be in favor that any significant match should be tested in that way.
as much as I dislike Floyd, if ever he has doubts, considering the huge size of the event, it is not an impossible demand. I don't know if Manny really refused of if it is a misunderstanding but for such money and considering that all his previous demands have been fulfilled, I do not see why what Floyd demands here should be ignored as it concerns both fighters and it is not something that will significantly play against Manny. Except if he has something to hide, of course.

Funny how everyone who kept saying Mayweather would be the one looking for ways out of the fight and his claims of Manny doing steroids were stupid. It comes time for Manny to step up and prove Mayweather wrong and he backs out. It seems shady.

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While drugs are illegal in sport of course there should be stringent testing (either that or legalise it and save all the hassle), but expecting Pac to undergo more stringent tests than the rest of the sport where the only evidence against him is slanderlous hearsay started by his next opponents dad is a bit much IMO.

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10 million dollars per pound overweight is also a bit much.

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@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

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While drugs are illegal in sport of course there should be stringent testing (either that or legalise it and save all the hassle), but expecting Pac to undergo more stringent tests than the rest of the sport where the only evidence against him is slanderlous hearsay started by his next opponents dad is a bit much IMO.

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10 million dollars per pound overweight is also a bit much.

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@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

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The easiest way to prove that would be to take the drug screen.

...of course not. Only floyd should have to jump through hoops. This guy can fight but he can't take a couple of extra blood test ?? I've heard of homeless people giving blood two or three times a day for 50 bucks. Now pac can't take the test for 25 ga-zillion. Sounds fishy. Especially with him being around people involved with roids in the past.

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...of course not. Only floyd should have to jump through hoops. This guy can fight but he can't take a couple of extra blood test ?? I've heard of homeless people giving blood two or three times a day for 50 bucks. Now pac can't take the test for 25 ga-zillion. Sounds fishy. Especially with him being around people involved with roids in the past.

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What hoops? are you kidding me?

Hey Floyd don't cheat and purposely come in overweight to create an advantage... oh yea that is a huge f-ing hurdle... Must be horrible to do such things...

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10 million dollars per pound overweight is also a bit much.

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@Bomp - Spot on!

@Killer - We have seen how much Floyd uses his weight to create an advantage - This Roid crap is a complete fabrication... Do you honestly believe if Floyd never had a history of coming in over weight to create an advantage that the penalty would be so high... We saw JMM pay the price... To bad JMM didn't make a weight stipulation maybe he would've had a better result (not a win but a better result of being a bit more fair)...

Just like Cotto was known for using low blows to create an advantage - Roach had to cover his bases...

Everything that applies to "crazy" stipulations have had cause...

THERE IS NO CAUSE FOR ALL THE ROID ACCUSATIONS!!

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The easiest way to prove that would be to take the drug screen.

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Agreed - However, why should he just because Floyd says so??? Why haven't any of the sanctioning bodies or the commission that oversees PED use come up with this??

If my wife came up to me and said "i know your cheating on me and i want you to take this lie detector test". I know for a fact i'm not, and if i said "why would you say that"? And she has zero basis for the accusation i wouldn't take the test...However, if she said she had this proof and that proof, i would take the test to prove my innocence..> But if anyone accuses me of anything without any real evidence.. They can kiss my ass!