Should Manny Pac go ahead with the blood test?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

Usain Bolt? Blood Tests? Really?!
That's a lot of blood, are you sure about that?

To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

But really, 5 - 6 times...!? I'd be offended to the point of resignation

[JazMerkin]

I voted no.

Pacquiao should be allowed to take the tests as he requested;
right after the initial Press Conference & the immediately after the fight.

Please tell me how or why this would be unacceptable?

Because (I think) there would be enough time between the press conference and the fight to use performance enhancing drugs and the there be no trace after the fight.

Usain Bolt was tested about 5 - 6 times during the Olympics and it didn’t affect him. If you have nothing to hide, why refuse especially if it denies him the biggest payday of his career.

Usain Bolt? Blood Tests? Really?!
That's a lot of blood, are you sure about that?

To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

But really, 5 - 6 times...!? I'd be offended to the point of resignation

Jim,

They take the equivalent of less than a tablespoon of blood. According to the USADA who would administer the tests, it replaces itself within an hour at most. Bolt was tested 6 times in the space of 10 days I believe. Still made no difference to him.

The key points about it weakening Manny are offset anyway by the fact Mayweather will have exactly the same test on the same day as Manny. So unless he has special regenerating powers, it will affect him just the same.

Also there are two reasons why they shouldn't be allowed to set the times when they take the tests. One is that you can cycle the PEDs to fit the testing schedule, it's like say you were growing weed in your garden & you knew exactly when the Police were coming round, you wouldn't leave it open to viewing at that time would you. The other is the use of masking agents. These can be administered to cover any type of PED in the blood & urine, however you wouldn't want to use it throughout training as many of them lead to dehydration or nausea. You could however administer it directly after a fight to cover anything taken as is my understanding.

Anyway, I'm not saying Manny is doing this, hopefully this gets resolved, but if he ignores a $40m payday because of this, there will be serious questions.

[robinswe01]

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To be honest, i assumed taking blood from Manny during training would affect him, in some way. But i'm happy to be proven wrong on this one i guess.

Mayweather isn't asking for the drugs testing to be exclusively for Pacquiao. He will undergo the same tests so would be affected equally.
Do you think it is at all suspicious that he isn't willing to be tested closer to the fight?

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

[QUOTE=robinswe01;828055][quote=Grinch;828046]

Mayweather isn't asking for the drugs testing to be exclusively for Pacquiao. He will undergo the same tests so would be affected equally.
Do you think it is at all suspicious that he isn't willing to be tested closer to the fight?

Na i make you and Jaz right. Thanks for the info.
I am now desperate for some good news on this

[killersheep]

Yes he should, there is no reason not to.

[robinswe01]

Yeah so do I. I thought it all going too smoothly. Hopefully I can be signed soon

[cnote111]

I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

[killersheep]

I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

If Mayweather takes the same tests at the same time, then there is no advantage physically as to the tests. Should a full drug screen be mandatory? Maybe it should be for title fights. It's not as if there is no history of performance enhancer use in boxing.

[cnote111]

I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

If Mayweather takes the same tests at the same time, then there is no advantage physically as to the tests. Should a full drug screen be mandatory? Maybe it should be for title fights. It's not as if there is no history of performance enhancer use in boxing.

I hear ya Killer, but i still think everyone reacts differently to blood tests... I get extremely lethargic and ill during and after a minor blood test, my wife on the other hand doesnt' even bat an eye... Everyone is not the same...

If boxing impliments this type of drug screening for just Title fights, how can anyone say one fight is more important then the other... Anyone putting their body at risk is just as important as the next... I agree,There is a history of PED's being used, but that history wouldn't be known if they didn't still get caught...

[Gandalf]

I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

[cnote111]

I said it once and i'll say it again..

To expect any fighter to succumb to bloodtesting multiple times during the middle of your training and the night before or the night of the fight is ludicris. No fighter in the history of the sport has ever had to take random blood tests in the middle of training the right before the fight... Why should Floyd be allowed to make such a rediculous request. So I guess Floyd is bigger then the History of the sport... Seriously?

Does that mean this Olympic style of testing should be implimented in every single professional fight?? If not, how is this any different AND DON"T SAY MONEY!!!!!!!


I know for a fact i am quite sluggish after getting blood tested, my wife isn't effected at all after blood being taken. Everyone is diferent...

With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't in the ring fighting againts the #1 or #2 P4P fighter in the world...

I find this to be an unusual but not entirely unexpected kind of response. Are you seriously objecting to boxing implementing rigorous drug testing procedures? And using your drowsiness as a justification? With all due respect Usain Bolt isn't getting pounded with uppercuts either.

Boxing owes it to itself to become more stringent. It shouldn't take a fighter having to call other fighters out and then having the other fighter running away to prove a point. If both fighters are being tested at the same time, then no questions can be asked, can they? Why do you have a problem with equal testing?

I definitely agree with Boxing needs to be more stringent... I don't agree with Floyd being the reason why this test is happening... If this was implimented by the commission of boxing and applied to the rules of all professional Fights, i would say nothing...

But this is not the case... This is Floyd trying to control PAC and cause a ripple in his performance...

[mnmc10]

i voted YES

pac should be tested so those who claim pac is on some form of ped will be silenced. but the random thing is a bit too much, it will surely mess up his training.

its now safe to say that pbf is scared of pac, this is the first time pbf pulled all sorts of stuff just to get the upper hand on his opponent.

[Gandalf]

i voted YES

pac should be tested so those who claim pac is on some form of ped will be silenced. but the random thing is a bit too much, it will surely mess up his training.

its now safe to say that pbf is scared of pac, this is the first time pbf pulled all sorts of stuff just to get the upper hand on his opponent.

You really think he is scared? Going on what has taken place it would seem that Floyd played a gambit and knew Pac would flinch and here we are. I don't see Floyd looking all that scared at this juncture.

[ElTerribleMorales]

i voted YES

pac should be tested so those who claim pac is on some form of ped will be silenced. but the random thing is a bit too much, it will surely mess up his training.

its now safe to say that pbf is scared of pac, this is the first time pbf pulled all sorts of stuff just to get the upper hand on his opponent.

this is the only stand out request he's made, and it's not a ludicrous one either, if Manny isn't on anything he has nothing to fear (I personally think he's clean) but the way he's going about halting the fight screams the complete opposite, the fact that Mayweather himself is willing to go through the same exact process should basically cancel out any bullshit excuse that Pacquiao has to not taking the blood tests, if anything when he comes out negative it'll only ensure that the winner of the fight is the clear cut best, so don't see what the drama is all about

[ono]

Of course he should. The big fucking girl's blouse.