Roach likes the sound of PAC/JMM III..

Over on boxingscene.com an interview with Roach reveals that he likes the idea of JMM vs Pac III instead of Foreman where he feels that the weight at 154 will be one step too far for Pacman. Apparently he feels it will be a difficult fight because Foreman is rangey. (Cherry picking perhaps? Avoiding certain styles for Pac?)

What do you think of JMM vs Pac III? I hate it personally, JMM isn't as effective at the higher weights and Roach, typically, wants another fight where he can call the shots (Probably at 140 or higher) where Pac has a better chance over JMM.

Roach is really showing his true colours recently - What I see is someone who likes taking on the big names but with the condition that all the odds are stacked against his fighters opponent

Roach Likes Pacquiao-Marquez Trilogy, Foreman Warning - Boxing News

Unless Pac can get below 140 then I see no reason for a Marquez/Pac 3 fight to take place. Marquez did great at 135, but you could sense he was on the edge of where his body could go even there. The Mayweather fight was pointless, most of us questioned what the point in that was.

If Pac wants to fight then why not the winner of Berto/Mosley? Mosley will win and the fight will be ready in a matter of months, no need for blood tests either. I would much rather see that.

Is it not bad enough JMM was already robbed of two decisions against Pac? If they fight anywhere north of 130 imo, JMM won't be able to cope with the extra weight [against someone as fast as Pacquiao/Mayweather]. All of this speculation about fighting other guys better just be hype tbh, or I'll lose all respect for Manny, as it will be evident at that point he's hiding something.

he's just trying to get people off of his back by putting a fight that people wanted out there as a possibility, anyways Marquez is a GBP fighter, and DLH already said that no GBP fighter is going to fight Pacquiao until he takes the blood tests, same went with Shaw, this is more bullshit coming from Team Pacquiao

Must be a negotiating tool for the Floyd fight. If it happens it will be good, JMM has his number, it is just the judges do not see it.

there again go the talks of how JMM was robbed twice. People really need to open their eyes. Watch fights like funeka-guzman or casamoyer-santa cruz. Or even Holyfield -Valuev. A 1 point fight or even 3 point fight is not a robbery . And it was Marquez that was floored 4 times

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there again go the talks of how JMM was robbed twice. People really need to open their eyes. Watch fights like funeka-guzman or casamoyer-santa cruz. Or even Holyfield -Valuev. A 1 point fight or even 3 point fight is not a robbery . And it was Marquez that was floored 4 times

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and it was Marquez who won a minimum of 8 rounds each fight ;)

Pac-JMM at 135 will attract more PPV buyers than 140-147 range.

i didn't see it that way , along with many people, i had pac winning 6 rounds in each fight . it was the commentary that swayed some people towards Marquez.

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i didn't see it that way , along with many people, i had pac winning 6 rounds in each fight . it was the commentary that swayed some people towards Marquez.

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yeah. it was the commentaries that made it seem like a robbery. I could very well remember then when ICB made a comment that it was a robbery just after watching the fight then later on retracting his words after he saw the fight again. The fights were so close that anyone could have won the fights. It just happened that Pacquaio was flooring JMM convincingly that the judges gave the nod to Pac.:cool:

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i didn't see it that way , along with many people, i had pac winning 6 rounds in each fight . it was the commentary that swayed some people towards Marquez.

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yeah. it was the commentaries that made it seem like a robbery. I could very well remember then when ICB made a comment that it was a robbery just after watching the fight then later on retracting his words after he saw the fight again. The fights were so close that anyone could have won the fights. It just happened that Pacquaio was flooring JMM convincingly that the judges gave the nod to Pac.:cool:

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might come as a shock to you, but there are people who can think on their own and aren't just mindless drones that go with whatever everybody else says, i had Marquez as a clear winner in both fights, and i'm not the only one. and it has nothing to do with the commentators

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i didn't see it that way , along with many people, i had pac winning 6 rounds in each fight . it was the commentary that swayed some people towards Marquez.

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yeah. it was the commentaries that made it seem like a robbery. I could very well remember then when ICB made a comment that it was a robbery just after watching the fight then later on retracting his words after he saw the fight again. The fights were so close that anyone could have won the fights. It just happened that Pacquaio was flooring JMM convincingly that the judges gave the nod to Pac.:cool:

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might come as a shock to you, but there are people who can think on their own and aren't just mindless drones that go with whatever everybody else says, i had Marquez as a clear winner in both fights, and i'm not the only one. and it has nothing to do with the commentators

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I will stick with my unbiased opinion that the fight could go either way.

So I better leave the decision to the judges as many will agree with me that it was a close fight.

Those were not robberies. FACT.

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yeah. it was the commentaries that made it seem like a robbery. I could very well remember then when ICB made a comment that it was a robbery just after watching the fight then later on retracting his words after he saw the fight again. The fights were so close that anyone could have won the fights. It just happened that Pacquaio was flooring JMM convincingly that the judges gave the nod to Pac.:cool:

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might come as a shock to you, but there are people who can think on their own and aren't just mindless drones that go with whatever everybody else says, i had Marquez as a clear winner in both fights, and i'm not the only one. and it has nothing to do with the commentators

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I will stick with my unbiased opinion that the fight could go either way.

So I better leave the decision to the judges as many will agree with me that it was a close fight.

Those were not robberies. FACT.

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Dude no offence but I really wouldnt call you unbiased towards anything to do with pac.

Marquez won both fights!.....Bob Arum has connections:)

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yeah. it was the commentaries that made it seem like a robbery. I could very well remember then when ICB made a comment that it was a robbery just after watching the fight then later on retracting his words after he saw the fight again. The fights were so close that anyone could have won the fights. It just happened that Pacquaio was flooring JMM convincingly that the judges gave the nod to Pac.:cool:

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might come as a shock to you, but there are people who can think on their own and aren't just mindless drones that go with whatever everybody else says, i had Marquez as a clear winner in both fights, and i'm not the only one. and it has nothing to do with the commentators

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I will stick with my unbiased opinion that the fight could go either way.

So I better leave the decision to the judges as many [pac nuthuggers] will agree with me that it was a close fight.

Those were not robberies. FACT.

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As the biggest pacfan here, hear me fellow pac nuthuggers!

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Taken from this thread: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...d-testing.html

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Marquez won both fights!.....Bob Arum has connections:)

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HAHAHAHAHHAHA

Bob Arum was Juan's promoter in the 1st fight while pac is still with Murad ;D.

I agree Juan won more rounds. 13 rounds to 11 rounds for Pacquiao. But Pac had 4 extra pts for 4 knockdowns. Techinically he won both fights because of the scoring error. but the records says 1W 1D for Pac and 1D 1L for JMM.

Is there any proof that Marquez can't be effective at 140? He wasn't effective at 145 fighting a guy who weighed 147, but to my knowledge he has never fought anyone at 140?

I like the sound of it as well, but only it is is at 135. Any higher and the fight is pointless as Marquez just isn't effective at that weight.

Even at 135, Marquez was pushed to his limits and had to win fights based on his superior skills alone.

Roach will dictate it at 147lb.

I am thinking more like <155

Foreman @ 154 for 8th div title, or Marquez @ 135 for 5th lineal.

Ha ha, I just read they offered the fight to Marquez but he wanted random blood tests as well, thats the only reason that fights hasnt been made;D

Manny is stuck fighting top rank fighters, everyone else wants testing;D

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Ha ha, I just read they offered the fight to Marquez but he wanted random blood tests as well, thats the only reason that fights hasnt been made;D

Manny is stuck fighting top rank fighters, everyone else wants testing;D

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That means Shane will ask for the same. Shame.

Yep, Shane will, or his team will ask for the same regarding testing.

Its not a shame though, its a good thing, it leaves Manny without any high profile opponents, which if hes not willing to prove hes not cheating he doesnt deserve anyway.

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Yep, Shane will, or his team will ask for the same regarding testing.

Its not a shame though, its a good thing, it leaves Manny without any high profile opponents, which if hes not willing to prove hes not cheating he doesnt deserve anyway.

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problem is Pac Man will fight the Top Rank circus of Marg, Yuri and JCC Jnr, maybe a Cotto return.

sure, why not? why not let your arch enemy grow old so that you'll have another advantage over your opponent. pacpuss is too much, talaga talaga!