So who wins now?
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So who wins now?
It pains me to say it, because I do not care for him, but I would have to go with Gamboa by KO. How quickly? Well that would depend on how Lopez chooses to fight. If he sticks to boxing, I say he would last till the 8th or 9th, but if he tries to slug it out, like he did with Mtagwa, I say Gamboa might take him out around the 4th or 5th round.
And God, I really hate to say that. :mad:
I say Gamboa KO because he's more seasoned, he's quicker, and he is a lot more polished. However if JuanMa was able to connect I think he could put the lights out on Gamboa too...let's not forget that Gamboa has been put down before
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Originally Posted by Diane
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why do you hate Gamboa?
I'm not getting all of the kool aid drinking on Gamboa but can say he is must see,awesome impulse and instinct,he detonates on guys but I dont see 'the next coming' as some.....both have lapses big time,hittable.....just think Gamboas fire gets him through more decisively.If it happened next month I say Gamboa on power but see Lopez having many more improvements,learning and growing more over time.
I like Gamboa in this one. Come forward wing right hooks forget the jab and get in exchanges Lopez would get starched badly. If he tries to make Gamboa come to him, jab, set up the right hook he's got chances to touch up Gamboa.
But forget the exchanges. Exchanging with Gamboa is a fool's game. He's just too fast.
Gamboa by stoppage.
He's too fast for Lopez.
I don't hate him, he just rubs me the wrong way.Quote:
Originally Posted by sumkalambayQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
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why do you hate Gamboa?
Lopez by stoppage
I think Gamboa has improved too much for Lopez now. He is basically blowing right past him in the improvement department. Gamboa throws much straighter and faster than Lopez. And now Gamboa is picking the right times to use his unmatched explosiveness. Gamboa by KO. Probably something like the 7th round.
My opinion is the same as before last night, I think Gamboa will spark him. Lopez is a very good fighter, but Gamboa is just too fast for him. When it comes to power as well, Gamboa was knocking out guys at 130lbs before comfortably moving down.
Also, disagree with Spicoli, Gamboa is 'the next coming'. The guy will rule the sport one day.
Lopez is my boy but i don't like his chances in this one. He has the power to trouble Gamboa but Gamboa poses the same threat for Juanma but also add that he's quicker and is very awkward.
Gamboa by KO, around the 5th or 7th round.
Hmmm...Gamboa might be the faster,stronger fighter and even better boxer,but he's been down before(like Lyle said)and Lopez is a big puncher himself...so I wouldn't put it past him to knock Gamboa out and lets not forget Lopez eaten alot of bombs in the Mtagwa fight being wobbled hard but not going down...I would say Lopez got the better chin from the two...But in the end my money would be on Gamboa...
So how does someone rub you the right way... :hubbahubba:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
I think his defensive leaks are buried under his explosive offence.Its not always going to be one way traffic and he gets hit...and dude is 28 long ring years old.I dont see it,just too premature to think him ruling the sport for me at this point...but I'll def watch the ride.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
Not sure who i'd pick, but lopez has some pretty cool sponsers. Dodge and now freakin Ihop. Made me go get pancakes.
My well-thought out, unbiased, scientific, totally objective pick is..... Lopez.
;D
i cant see this fight goin the distance ima have to say lopez by k.o
Let's not forget, Lopez has power too. Gamboa isn't gonna walk through Lopez. It is a matter of who gets to who first because they both have explosive power. That Mtagwa fight made Lopez become a better boxer. Gamboa came in with the gameplan Lopez "should have" had when he beat him.
Gamboa is very very good, maybe something special, but so is Lopez, just because he looked bad two fights ago doesn't mean he's a bad fighter suddenly, that fight probably made him a better one. And Gamboa has looked bad before and been down before. So lets not rule out that Lopez may low and behold hurt him.
It's not gonna be a cakewalk for either fighter.
For you people that actually belive that Lopez could win that fight , I'm sorry but you must be either Puerto Rican or stupid. Gamboa is an experience boxer and a gold medalist who had over 400 amateur fights and only 2 defeats . Gamboa is faster, stronger and even smarter than Lopez. He has the experience to either outbox Lopez or knock him out. I'm sorry for being so honest, but I'm a big boxing fan, and I've been watching boxing since I was a little boy, and trust me there is no way in hell Lopez could win that fight, I bet my house on it. Lopez is a kid that just started in the professional boxing business 5 years ago , who had an amateur record of 126 fights with 24 defeats, while Gamboa only lost twice in 250 fights. I'm not saying that Lopez is not a good fighter because he is, but he doesnt compare to Gamboa, and that's the truth. Gamboa just became a professional back in 2007, but he has been in the boxing business way longer than that, and has been in more fights than Lopez.
I voted Lopez. But already I'm regretting it!
I was thinking that His height, reach and power would have Gamboa in trouble early but that would only be so if Lopez was controlling the range... Which i doubt he'd do.
He'd come in looking for the big punches and Gamboa will just dip-step-boom-boom-boom!
Gamboa KO for me.
Gamboa K.O all day for me - I was watching a highlight video of the two a couple weeks back..I honestly thought the Lopez clips were in slow motion! The speed difference is crazy - Lopez will need impecable timing all night long to beat Gamboa. I just don't see it happening.
Gamboa too skilful, too powerful, too determined.
First, welcome to the board!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great
You may very well be right about Lopez being way over-matched by Gamboa, but to say any Boxer can't lose against any opponent that has power, makes me wonder what kind of boxing you could have been watching all these years. Remember Tyson vs Douglas, or Lennox vs Rahman I? And IMO there was a much greater disparity in ability between those fighters than between Gamboa and Juanma.
Then add in that both Gamboa and Juanma will be thinking about the their outcomes against their common opponent. This could cut both ways: Gamboa's confidence could rise; while Juanma could find it impossible to quell the doubts that might creep in. Then Gamboa will in all likelihood KO Juanma. Or Gamboa could become overconfident, and revert back to his "I can just blow anybody out of the water and damn the torpedoes style". If that happens, Lopez does have the ability to catch Gamboa, just as several much lesser opponents have, but with a more dire outcome for Gamboa than what happened in those other fights.
First I never said that lopez would lose that fight because of Gamboa been more powerful than him, that's just one of the reasons why he doesn't stand a chance against a fighter like Gamboa . I do remember the fight between Doulgas and Tyson, but to be honest you know that was pretty much a miracle, Tyson knocked him down with a right uppercut in the 8th round, and that was no off balance knock down , that was a real knock down , but the kid just got up strong, not many people can do that , and that's what I call a miracle in boxing, not to mention that Tyson in that fight wasn's the same Tyson we were use to see, he said it himself, he had beaten everyone by then and he just thought he was invincible, he was partying a lot, he wasn't training as much as he used too, he was going to the gym twice a week and sometimes even once a week and that's what happens when you make a mistake like that. If you know about boxing, you know just by watching Lopez fight , that he couldn't beat Gamboa in a million years, first because he is not as fast as him , and I mean Gamboa is way faster than Lopez, way more powerful than him, and more experience too. Lopez is a guy that didn't even make it at the olympics, and who almost got beat by a club fighter whose name is Roger Mtagwa, while Gamboa knocked him out in the 2 round, and even in the fight that Lopez had with Luevano you could see that the kid just doesnt have the talent needed to beat someone as explosive as Gamboa, he just stands there and doesnt move a lot, and that would make him an easily target for a fast guy like gamboa, who also has a lot of movement and a powerful punch. I dont see that fight going to distance and I'll argue that with anyone, and neither do I see a miracle happening in this fight.
gamboa, gamboa, gamboa
I hear you, and I'm not really arguing too much, although I think you're a little out of proportion. My main point is when punchers are involved, you can never say never in boxing!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great
I made a mistake. Gamboa had an amateur record of over 400 fights and 2 loses, not 250 fights.
This fight could be something special. Both have all the tools. I'm going to vote a draw, not because I'm confident that it'll go the distance, but because I simply cannot pick. Both are very capable of knocking out the other. I'm not sure that the Mtagwa fights were as good indications as some think, as Gamboa vs Mtagwa was later and he was perfect pickings for Gamboa's style.
What's your source? His bio on BoxRec says 250, and lists 4 individual losses, but doesn't say whether that's all of them. Still, I concede, about as spectacular an amateur record as you can get!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great
Gamboa; bet the farm on it. He will straight out clubber lang Lopez into oblivion
i voted lopez by decision but it's more like wishful thinking. i'm picturing a scenario where once they'd tasted each other's power they'd become more wary leading to more a tactical fight. i hope lopez can get in his early licks coz am really a fan of juanma but then gamboa is really looking very strong and faster at this stage, so it's just wishful thinking. lol
Youtube.comQuote:
Originally Posted by Myk_MykWhat's your source? His bio on BoxRec says 250, and lists 4 individual losses, but doesn't say whether that's all of them. Still, I concede, about as spectacular an amateur record as you can get!Quote:
Originally Posted by The Great
Gamboa boxing in espn . They said before the fight over 400 amateur fights, and I know he has only lost 2 times , look it up
Here's the BoxRec bio with four losses documented: Yuriorkis Gamboa - Boxrec Boxing Encyclopaedia One loss was an injury...
Here's his wiki. Shows that he at least 3 losses, as it documents 1 silver , and 2 bronze medals in his medal counts: Yuriorkis Gamboa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Again, point taken that he had a spectacular amateur career miles ahead of Juanma's, but just trying to be accurate...
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Originally Posted by Myk_Myk
Well then is over 400 mateur fights and only 4 defeats , here look , they said it on espn and I'm sorry I thought it was only 2 defeats , but like you said still a great amateur career. Here is the video where they said over 400 amateur fights : 1 minute and 45 sec in the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bz0vbrZp43c