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Floyd says if his fight with Shane does better, Manny can forget about a 50/50 split and that he wants drug testing to be all the way up until the fight, no more 14 day cutoff. These are the new demands if they negotiate in the future.
Pacquiao and team really have no one else to blame but themselves, IMO Floyd will outsell Pacquiao in any fight, as long as he's fighting a decent name, so much talk of Floyd being left in the "dust" and the one who seems to be barely getting by with promotion is Pacquiao in his fight with Clottey, there's a lot more buzz going on about Mosley/Mayweather, and the fact that the fight isn't taking place till May and that they haven't even started the promotion tour yet, leads me to think that Pacquiao/Clottey is gonna be left in the dust, i don't see how this fight can even match Mayweather/Marquez to be honestQuote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
No 50/50 now hahaha.
This fight will never happen.
Why is this "news"?
Contrarily, Floyd can forget a 50/50 split and any drug testing at all if Manny's PPV does better.
Realistically if they are going to fight it's going to be 50/50 or nothing. Neither deserves more than the other
They should talk about this crap after their fights, because the way I see it both have a chance of being beat (albiet a small one IMO)
If this is true, then it's like saying that there in never going to be a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight at all (of course, provided that they beat their respective opponents). I agree that neither of them deserves more than a 50/50 split. With regards as to who gives in to the blood test cut-off date will depend on the success of their respective matches.
It is obvious to me that Mayweather-Mosley will definitely outsell the Pacquiao-Clottey fight. But if the later even gets half the PPV buys of the former, then I'll still consider that a success. Quite a number of advantages are stacked up in favor of Floyd & Shane. They are both well known American boxers fighting on American soil whereas Pac is primarily the one who will carry his bout with Clottey.
And yes, they should not even be talking about a Pac-Mayweather bout until they're done with their respective fights.
To be honest Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw and he only agreed to 50/ 50 as pacs last PPV against a largely successful ppv opponent did well.
Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela HoyaQuote:
Originally Posted by piye
Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:
Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000
TOTAL : 1,064,000
Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:
Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000
TOTAL: 1,110,000
Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000
TOTAL: 1,975,000
Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya
Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000
TOTAL: 2,100,000
The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.
But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:
Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill
Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k
De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill
But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.
It's starting to sound like this fight may not happen. I always thought it was inevitable but not so sure now.
ha ha....floyd should worry about shane cause for all he knows he could get ko'ed( although i highly doubt he even hits floyd more than a couple of times) and then manny would be laughing his ass off everytime floyd's name showed up on his caller id looking for a fight.
Even though people will say there common apponents Mayweather has done more, I think the Marquez fight can be disgarded if Pac fought Marquez after Dela Hoya fight he would of done alot more.
There is lots of arguments really who deserves more but I deffo think 50/50 is fair.
I hope Manny takes the tests otherwise it is very suspicious. Floyd certainly holds the cards with fighting Shane. I hope the fight does not happen because Shane beats Floyd, but if it does happen then I do not know who I despise more. :-\
bit early to start duck...errr, negotiating aint it? :headscratch:
I can understand PBF wanting more of the pie. What I can't understand is PBF looking past Mosley. PBF may not totally understand that Mosley has been wanting him for years now and when someone of that caliber has been gunning for you then that is the most dangerous opponent you can find. Someone of Mosley's make up will study PBF to every detail with iron determination just itching for the chance. Mosley is not one of the young guys who tend to be overanxious. Mosley knows how to stay composed and maximize such an opportunity. I think PBF will be better served not looking at the ceiling and paying all attention to the big pink elephant in the room.
you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and BaldomirQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela HoyaQuote:
Originally Posted by piye
Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:
Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000
TOTAL : 1,064,000
Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:
Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000
TOTAL: 1,110,000
Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000
TOTAL: 1,975,000
Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya
Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000
TOTAL: 2,100,000
The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.
But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:
Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill
Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k
De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill
But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.
also proving that pac had better opposition than pbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Haha and lost to one and drew with another. So your now saying drawing power is directly linked to a fighters quality?Quote:
Originally Posted by mnmc10also proving that pac had better opposition than pbf.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
The thread is about who is the bigger draw and when u look a common opponents Floyd by far outsells Pac.
Fact is, when Floyd beats Shane, die hard Pac fans will be the only people on the planet who would still have Floyd p4p #2. Floyd will be the consensus #1 fighter in the world, and we all know Mayweather-Mosley will sell more than Pacquiao-Clottey. When you're the top dog, the odds on favorite to win, AND the bigger draw, you will get, and deserve to get, more money. And people need to stop going back 4 and 5 years looking at their ppv numbers. The bigger draw means who's consistently been drawing more lately. If Freddie Roach and Manny are gonna cry that Mosley is a bigger draw than Clottey that's their own fault, since they had their pick of the litter on who Pacquiao was going to fight before Floyd and could have challenged Shane.
anyone want to elaborate on this?Quote:
Originally Posted by match
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and BaldomirQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela HoyaQuote:
Originally Posted by piye
Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:
Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000
TOTAL : 1,064,000
Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:
Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000
TOTAL: 1,110,000
Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya
Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000
TOTAL: 1,975,000
Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya
Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000
TOTAL: 2,100,000
The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.
But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:
Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill
Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k
De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill
But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.
So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley. ;D
Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.
Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.
I don't really care about the money issue as that is for homosexuals. I like the actual fights and fighters and promoters can worry about the dirty dollars.
I do care much more about the drugs testing because I believe it is valid and important for boxing. Mayweather is RIGHT to be pushing it and it was good to see him demand it of Mosley too. It shows consistency. People saying "oh well Mayweather is ducking Pac already" (which is what I have read on other forums too) are nuts. Manny has already ducked Floyd because either he doesn't want to fight or else is hiding something. If the fight never happens it is not Mayweathers fault. Mosley is able to fight him and yet under the same conditions Manny couldn't? And all the false excuses that went with it too?
I can't stand Mayweather, but I see things as they are. Mayweather will do much better than Pac in their next fights. Pac has been damaged by the allegations and Clottey is coming off a loss and isn't fan friendly. Mosley though out for a while is a name and coming off a good win. Mayweather will hold all the cards (IF he wins) and in terms of testing he will be right to erase all testing windows.
You see, this is what I am talking about. Manny has already ducked Floyd. A refusal to allow random drug testing is warning sign enough and that's without getting onto the issue of money. The fight won't happen because Manny already refuses to prove himself a clean athlete. It's that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by DenchQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and BaldomirQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley. ;D
Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.
Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.
ummm, the fight didn't happen cause Pacquiao was too much of a bitch to take a simple blood test, the same type of blood tests Mosley had accepted, nice try thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by DenchQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyou can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and BaldomirQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983
So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley. ;D
Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.
Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.
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Originally Posted by Master
Manny Pacman will take the test if the commission will include it on its rules or will specially require them for a fight--- Thats what Bob Arum, Roach and PAcman told everyone. The commission will make those rules, not some thug or ex cons rappin out and beating a lady on the streets.
That was the stand of Pacman's camp on these drug test procedures. They will allow blood test or whatever tests if it will be required by the commission alone.
If Floyd wants to clean up the sports, then ask the commission to have the rules of drug testing revised and include Olympic blood testing procedures. I admire Floyd for making that effort to clean up the sports, but its very clear that he's doing this not on that purpose.
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm, the fight didn't happen cause Pacquiao was too much of a bitch to take a simple blood test, the same type of blood tests Mosley had accepted, nice try thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by DenchQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley. ;D
Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.
Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.
Because Floyd demands it does not mean that anyone has to follow. Pacman had the right stand on this. If those test will be required by the commission, then they will respectfully submit to those blood test. But Floyd and their camp are the ones pushing for this with no basis. Whats their basis again?
Mosley accepted the blood test procedures to clear his name out of accusations. Floyd had the basis on why they should ask Mosley to this test anyway -- Mosley was a self-confessed PED user in the past. Thats the basis.
With Pacman, what their basis? Roger's story about A-meth kind of thing that make Filipinos bullet-proof? ;D;D
the commission already has it's own rules and penalties for not making weight for a fight, so some little diva and his shaky trainer shouldn't be trying to alter those regulations for their benefitQuote:
Originally Posted by DenchQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Manny Pacman will take the test if the commission will include it on its rules or will specially require them for a fight--- Thats what Bob Arum, Roach and PAcman told everyone. The commission will make those rules, not some thug or ex cons rappin out and beating a lady on the streets.
That was the stand of Pacman's camp on these drug test procedures. They will allow blood test or whatever tests if it will be required by the commission alone.
If Floyd wants to clean up the sports, then ask the commission to have the rules of drug testing revised and include Olympic blood testing procedures. I admire Floyd for making that effort to clean up the sports, but its very clear that he's doing this not on that purpose.
I think the only way to have this settled is when all the commissions consider Olympic style drug testing for all bouts -- titled and non-title fights. This way Floyd does not need to demand this to simply duck fighters he feared.. Pacman says he will submit to any test that the sanctioning body will require. He did not let Floyd make his own rules over him.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesYou see, this is what I am talking about. Manny has already ducked Floyd. A refusal to allow random drug testing is warning sign enough and that's without getting onto the issue of money. The fight won't happen because Manny already refuses to prove himself a clean athlete. It's that simple.Quote:
Originally Posted by DenchQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley. ;D
Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.
Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.
Yeah, rules for not making the weight -- I remember how Floyd screw this rule when he fought bloated Marquez at 147 and he still came in over weight. Thats the basis why Pacman camp asked for a huge fine on exceeding the 147 welter limit. Again, that was their basis. Floyd did it before and he will do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe commission already has it's own rules and penalties for not making weight for a fight, so some little diva and his shaky trainer shouldn't be trying to alter those regulations for their benefitQuote:
Originally Posted by DenchQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
Manny Pacman will take the test if the commission will include it on its rules or will specially require them for a fight--- Thats what Bob Arum, Roach and PAcman told everyone. The commission will make those rules, not some thug or ex cons rappin out and beating a lady on the streets.
That was the stand of Pacman's camp on these drug test procedures. They will allow blood test or whatever tests if it will be required by the commission alone.
If Floyd wants to clean up the sports, then ask the commission to have the rules of drug testing revised and include Olympic blood testing procedures. I admire Floyd for making that effort to clean up the sports, but its very clear that he's doing this not on that purpose.
And whos trying to alter the rules on drug testing procedures? What their basis for asking an Olympic drug test procedure for this fight? Was their a basis at all?
I've always found it funny on 2 things that most boxing fans think. One is that close fights that could go either way are robberies and second is that elite (as in HOF all time great elites) fighters duck each other.
Some fights just don't get made because of egos with certain things, not because one or the other is scared. Both Floyd and Manny have taken on more than their fair share of dangerous fighters.
Floyd is fighting Mosley a very dangerous opponent and his past resume of fighting guys like Corrales and Manfreddy and Manny has fought guys that were extremely dangerous such as Cotto and Marquez at 126 when he was a not a big name fighter, but a dangerous opponent.
Floyd and Manny will happen if they win their next fights, it's just some trash talking and posturing.
If you want to see ducking, just take a look at Amir Khan and his avoidance of punchers, now that's ducking.
yea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by DenchYeah, rules for not making the weight -- I remember how Floyd screw this rule when he fought bloated Marquez at 147 and he still came in over weight. Thats the basis why Pacman camp asked for a huge fine on exceeding the 147 welter limit. Again, that was their basis. Floyd did it before and he will do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe commission already has it's own rules and penalties for not making weight for a fight, so some little diva and his shaky trainer shouldn't be trying to alter those regulations for their benefitQuote:
Originally Posted by Dench
And whos trying to alter the rules on drug testing procedures? What their basis for asking an Olympic drug test procedure for this fight? Was their a basis at all?
Your statements are incoherent and confusing. The catch weight set of the Marquez-Mayweather fight was made by themselves, not by NSAC. They agreed on it from the beginning and signed the contract stating that it would be 145lbs. Its clear that catch weights can be asked by anyone to anyone, not just Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by DenchYeah, rules for not making the weight -- I remember how Floyd screw this rule when he fought bloated Marquez at 147 and he still came in over weight. Thats the basis why Pacman camp asked for a huge fine on exceeding the 147 welter limit. Again, that was their basis. Floyd did it before and he will do it again.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
And whos trying to alter the rules on drug testing procedures? What their basis for asking an Olympic drug test procedure for this fight? Was their a basis at all?
Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight -- he's a legit welter anyway that should be a non-issue and Manny is naturally smaller than him.
Catchweights that were set by Manny was agreed by the other fighter. Look, it was not a deal that manny made by himself. Its a two way deal.
He fought Dela Hoya at 147 limit, and people were saying dela hoya will crush him like a cheap jar. He fought Hatton at his unbeatable weight 140 and people were saying Hatton will bulldoze Manny. Was it Manny's fault to prove them wrong?
Who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say that Manny is on PED?
Who the fuck is Manny to say that someone is going to come in overweight? Well, he put a clause in enforcing making weight and his opponents signed off on it. You ask who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say Manny is on PEDs? Well, they put in a clause asking for Olympic style testing and Mosley signed off on it, Manny didn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by DenchYour statements are incoherent and confusing. The catch weight set of the Marquez-Mayweather fight was made by themselves, not by NSAC. They agreed on it from the beginning and signed the contract stating that it would be 145lbs. Its clear that catch weights can be asked by anyone to anyone, not just Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Dench
Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight -- he's a legit welter anyway that should be a non-issue and Manny is naturally smaller than him.
Catchweights that were set by Manny was agreed by the other fighter. Look, it was not a deal that manny made by himself. Its a two way deal.
He fought Dela Hoya at 147 limit, and people were saying dela hoya will crush him like a cheap jar. He fought Hatton at his unbeatable weight 140 and people were saying Hatton will bulldoze Manny. Was it Manny's fault to prove them wrong?
Who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say that Manny is on PED?
so now Manny is way smaller than Floyd? yet he was willing to go up to 154 and fight Yuri Foreman if the money was right :confused:, nobody knew how badly faded Oscar was by the time he took on Pacquiao, and if anyone actually tries to consider that a legit win or a meaningful one, they seriously need to get their head checked, Hatton was far from unbeatable at 140 or any other weight, Lazcano gave him the fight of his life at what weight? oh yea 140Quote:
Originally Posted by DenchYour statements are incoherent and confusing. The catch weight set of the Marquez-Mayweather fight was made by themselves, not by NSAC. They agreed on it from the beginning and signed the contract stating that it would be 145lbs. Its clear that catch weights can be asked by anyone to anyone, not just Manny.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesyea he broke the rule, and had to pay the fee given to him by the NSAC, not by Marquez, so who the fuck is Manny to say he should get $10 mil for every pound over the limit, same as who the fuck is Manny to demand catchweights for not only championship fights, but title defenses as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Dench
Manny asked 10million fine for each pound that goes beyond 147, yes, but that is simply to force Floyd to make the weight -- he's a legit welter anyway that should be a non-issue and Manny is naturally smaller than him.
Catchweights that were set by Manny was agreed by the other fighter. Look, it was not a deal that manny made by himself. Its a two way deal.
He fought Dela Hoya at 147 limit, and people were saying dela hoya will crush him like a cheap jar. He fought Hatton at his unbeatable weight 140 and people were saying Hatton will bulldoze Manny. Was it Manny's fault to prove them wrong?
Who the fuck are the Mayweathers to say that Manny is on PED?
keep coming up with cheap excuses as to why Pacquiao pussied out of the biggest fight of his career, i don't give a shit what anyone says, if you're willing to walk away from a $40 mil pay day just because some arrogant shit says you're on PED's and is asking you to take a drug test to prove him wrong, then somethings up, the rational thing would be to take the test, prove him wrong, kick his ass and cash your check, not make bullshit excuses ("i'm scared of needles and all of my tattoos are just painted on") or have a little public hissy fit and go to court, especially when you're given the chance to kick the guys ass
That might be true. but its is a well known fact the Hatton has zero loss at 140. or to word it differently Hatton was undefeated at 140 prior to facing Pacquiao.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Manny's team just watch how Mayweather disrespected the catch weight when he fought Marquez. He didnt even bother paying 600,000 USD for that, and maybe 10Million will make him respect 147 limit.Quote:
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Same goes with Marquez Mayweather fight -- both of them signed on that contracted weight, but in the end, who honored it?Quote:
Originally Posted by match
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And whats the connection?
Of course Mosley would love to prove he's clean because he admitted before that he was dirty -- now that's a strong case of doping. Only way to clean up his name is to get tested. And yes, he will get it this time. Im happy for him. He will get a chance to prove he is clean, at the same time he will have a chance to kick Mayweather's butt.:D
Manny never failed every single drug test. So there's no point on having those test simply because Floyd and his honchos are "suspecting" he's immortal, bullet proof.
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Originally Posted by DenchManny's team just watch how Mayweather disrespected the catch weight when he fought Marquez. He didnt even bother paying 600,000 USD for that, and maybe 10Million will make him respect 147 limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by match
Same goes with Marquez Mayweather fight -- both of them signed on that contracted weight, but in the end, who honored it?Quote:
Originally Posted by match
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Originally Posted by match
And whats the connection?
Of course Mosley would love to prove he's clean because he admitted before that he was dirty -- now that's a strong case of doping. Only way to clean up his name is to get tested. And yes, he will get it this time. Im happy for him. He will get a chance to prove he is clean, at the same time he will have a chance to kick Mayweather's butt.:D
Manny never failed every single drug test. So there's no point on having those test simply because Floyd and his honchos are "suspecting" he's immortal, bullet proof.
ummm yea Shane Mosley's never failed a single drug test either.....
Its right, just what you said, Manny was willing to go up on 154. The word is willing. He didnt pursue it, it didnt happen. It not reality, its simply a thought -- he even decline later on and admit Foreman was too big for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Marquez is a natural Light weight, he fought Mayweather in welterweight with a limit of 144. It happened, it was reality.
We're talking about reality here, not assumptions and imaginations.
There was one person -- Roach but interestingly, Dela Hoya disagrees. Dela Hoya along with several million people believes he can destroy pacman. Some believes he may even kill pacman.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Then WBC, WBO and all the boxing organization, the boxing media, should have their heads checked first before we do.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Was he been beaten in 140 before the pacman fight? You tell me.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Yes, you are right. Thanks for admitting that you dont give a shit with what anyone has to say, that makes me think who among us would seriously need expert mental advise.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm yea Shane Mosley's never failed a single drug test either.....Quote:
Originally Posted by DenchManny's team just watch how Mayweather disrespected the catch weight when he fought Marquez. He didnt even bother paying 600,000 USD for that, and maybe 10Million will make him respect 147 limit.Quote:
Originally Posted by match
Same goes with Marquez Mayweather fight -- both of them signed on that contracted weight, but in the end, who honored it?
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Originally Posted by match
And whats the connection?
Of course Mosley would love to prove he's clean because he admitted before that he was dirty -- now that's a strong case of doping. Only way to clean up his name is to get tested. And yes, he will get it this time. Im happy for him. He will get a chance to prove he is clean, at the same time he will have a chance to kick Mayweather's butt.:D
Manny never failed every single drug test. So there's no point on having those test simply because Floyd and his honchos are "suspecting" he's immortal, bullet proof.
Then how do they know he's on PED? They caught him drinking PED in the parking lot? Nice one man, keep it coming
hahaha you're the biggest moron dude, Mosley only got found out because he was involved in the BALCO scandal, and because he flat out admitted it, although he states that he unknowingly took them, Mosley never failed a drug test genius but again, nice tryQuote:
Originally Posted by DenchQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesummm yea Shane Mosley's never failed a single drug test either.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dench
Then how do they know he's on PED? They caught him drinking PED in the parking lot? Nice one man, keep it coming
This is how primadonas get beat....Floyd better worry about that "old man" Shane Mosley.Period
Come to think of it....can you imagine a Mosley/Pac match?I mean stylistically speaking :fight: Nice