Floyd: Manny can forget 50/50 split and 14 day cutoff date

[Dench]

To be honest Mayweather is a bigger PPV draw and he only agreed to 50/ 50 as pacs last PPV against a largely successful ppv opponent did well.

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

[Gandalf]

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

You see, this is what I am talking about. Manny has already ducked Floyd. A refusal to allow random drug testing is warning sign enough and that's without getting onto the issue of money. The fight won't happen because Manny already refuses to prove himself a clean athlete. It's that simple.

[Dench]

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

You see, this is what I am talking about. Manny has already ducked Floyd. A refusal to allow random drug testing is warning sign enough and that's without getting onto the issue of money. The fight won't happen because Manny already refuses to prove himself a clean athlete. It's that simple.

I think the only way to have this settled is when all the commissions consider Olympic style drug testing for all bouts -- titled and non-title fights. This way Floyd does not need to demand this to simply duck fighters he feared.. Pacman says he will submit to any test that the sanctioning body will require. He did not let Floyd make his own rules over him.

[ElTerribleMorales]

Have to disagree there mate, Pac deserves at least 50/50 here's a look at there PPV numbers before and after there fights with Dela Hoya

Mayweather's Highest PPV before De la Hoya:

Zab Judah - 374,000
Arturo Gatti - 365,000
Carlos Baldomir - 325,000

TOTAL : 1,064,000


Pacquiao's Highest PPV Fights before De la Hoya:

Juan Manuel Marquez Rematch - 400,000
Erik Morales 3rd Match - 360,000
Marco Antonio Barrera Rematch - 350,000

TOTAL: 1,110,000


Mayweather Fights after De la Hoya

Juan Manuel Marquez - 1,050,000
Ricky Hatton - 925,000

TOTAL: 1,975,000

Pacquiao Fights after De la Hoya

Miguel Cotto - 1,250,000
Ricky Hatton - 850,000

TOTAL: 2,100,000


The Mosley fight will probably do a couple of hundred thousand more but the same argument for comparing Pac/Cotto - Mayweather/JMM, could be used with the two fights coming up, with Mayweather having the less attractive ppv then and now Pac having the same situation.

But on the other hand you can look at these numbers below and say Floyd deserves more:

Marquez-Pacquiao 400k
Marquez-Mayweather 1.1Mill

Hatton-Pacquiao 850k
Hatton-Mayweather 950k

De La Hoya-Pacquiao 1.6Mill
De La Hoya-Mayweather 2.4Mill


But the timing of these fights had a big bearing, and the situation for instance Dela Hoya v Mayweather was seen as alot closer fight on paper than Pac Dela Hoya, everyone thought Pac would get blown away. Hard to say but looking at all figures 50/50 is fair imo.

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

ummm, the fight didn't happen cause Pacquiao was too much of a bitch to take a simple blood test, the same type of blood tests Mosley had accepted, nice try though

[Dench]

you can also throw in that Barrera, Morales, and Marquez have a bigger fan base than Judah and Baldomir

So as Dela hoya, Hatton and of course Mosley.

Floyd making these demands and rules this early is a testament that he really doesnt want to fight Pacman. Whatever happens on his fight vs Mosley, Floyd will never let that fight against Pacman to materialize.

Im rooting for Mosley to win, but I have a feeling the Floyd will just run and dance away while bitch-slapping mosley, and will get points for those slaps. He's good at it anyway so I must give credit to him.

ummm, the fight didn't happen cause Pacquiao was too much of a bitch to take a simple blood test, the same type of blood tests Mosley had accepted, nice try though

Because Floyd demands it does not mean that anyone has to follow. Pacman had the right stand on this. If those test will be required by the commission, then they will respectfully submit to those blood test. But Floyd and their camp are the ones pushing for this with no basis. Whats their basis again?

Mosley accepted the blood test procedures to clear his name out of accusations. Floyd had the basis on why they should ask Mosley to this test anyway -- Mosley was a self-confessed PED user in the past. Thats the basis.

With Pacman, what their basis? Roger's story about A-meth kind of thing that make Filipinos bullet-proof?