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Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Let's say the best Floyd at 135 vs the best Duran at 135, who would win?
I've heard from a lot of people throughout the years say Floyd would embarrass Duran at 135, because supposedly Duran had trouble with slick boxers and that Floyd is slick and undefeated. So how would this mythical matchup play out? I know for sure Floyd won't ko or stop Duran, so does he take a UD or gets outworked, possibly even stopped by Hands of Stone?
I know for sure someone will bring up Esteban de Jesus in their 1st encounter, I'll get to that later.
So who takes this? Floyd or Duran?
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Duran was the greatest lightweight ever and was unstoppable force who had non-stop punch power, speed and boxing skills.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
I saw a few of Duran's fights on the way to the title and his endurance was incredible. The man had no fear and to top it off, he was not only in your face but over, under, around and through your defense. In the second De Jesus fight, he displayed a remarkable defense and boxing skills at 135. After he gained the title he was remarkable improving with every fight. Sorry Floyd!
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
I just don't know how Floyd could have dealt with Duran's sturdiness. Duran was a MONSTER at lightweight. It would be a fight but I'd have to favor Duran. You know what fight would have been an AWESOME fight at 135? Duran vs Sugar Shane Mosley.
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Now that fight would be a barn burner.
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Duran would whoop that ass all up and down the ring. Best lightweight ever.
Only fighters to give him trouble:
Shane Mosley
Chavez
Sweet Pea
Meldrick Taylor
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Duran taps that ass. Mosley vs duran @ 135 would of been one of the greatest fights of all time IMO
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Good arguments and all. The only problem is Duran isn't the greatest 135lb of all time, it's Benny Leonard. The great Ray Arcel trained both of them during there primes and he said Leonard was the greatest pure boxer ever. He gave him the edge over Duran.
Duran is seen as such a beast (rightfully so) but he was such an under rated boxer as well. Floyd would be running for his bloody life the whole fight. Duran would call him a faggot & a pussy (in spanish of course) and run after him with none stop punching. :p
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Floyd Mayweather Jr would give him fits, Roberto Duran was great at Lightweight. But i still think he would have alot of trouble, Wilfredo Benitez gave Roberto Duran a boxing lesson.
I know it was above Lightweight, but again Wilfredo Benitez is similar to Floyd Mayweather Jr, due to the fact there both great defensive fighters. And Roberto Duran could never get off against Wilfredo Benitez.
But Floyd Mayweather Jr would struggle to keep Roberto Duran off him, and even though Floyd Mayweather Jr did beat Jose Luis Castillo. More convincingly in the rematch, it still wasn't that easy being a 7 rounds to 5 win. which isn't that clear cut.
So IMO if Floyd Mayweather Jr couldn't keep Jose Luis Castillo off him, there's no way he keeps Roberto Duran off him. Who's a better boxer than Jose Luis Castillo and has more power.
I think over 12 rounds it would be pretty close, i think Floyd Mayweather Jr wins the early rounds. Before Roberto Duran's pressure starts to gets to him late, and i think Roberto Duran wins a close but clear cut decision.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Duran all that speed and power would be to much for mayweather he can only block so many shots...
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Gotta go with Duran at 135
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I know its been said before but isnt Duran vs Paquiao a much better match up at 135? That would be better in every way!
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Floyd would not want any of that Duran....nah.
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Duran would beat anyone at 135, including Mayweather and Mosley.
Sweet Pea could also take Floyd in my opinion.
and Aaron Pryor would demolish Mayweather...
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
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Originally Posted by
JonnyFolds
Duran would whoop that ass all up and down the ring. Best lightweight ever.
Only fighters to give him trouble:
Shane Mosley
Chavez
Sweet Pea
Meldrick Taylor
Now you say Pernell Whitaker and Meldrick Taylor would trouble Duran, but in the same post state he would have whooped Floyd up and down the ring?
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Duran at 135 pounds was one of the most frightful thing pound for pound to ever walk into a ring. Duran wins this one.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
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Originally Posted by
JonnyFolds
Duran would whoop that ass all up and down the ring. Best lightweight ever.
Only fighters to give him trouble:
Shane Mosley
Chavez
Sweet Pea
Meldrick Taylor
Taylor was a 140 pound fighter, not a 135 one, even though he started his career there.
Mosley and Chavez lose a UD to Duran. Against Whitaker I slightly favor Duran, but it will be close.
Remember folks, Duran at 135 has speed, power, chin, and endless stamina, there's a reason why he's considered to be a top 2 lightweight of all time.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
Only person that beats Duran at 135 is Sugar Shane...
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
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Originally Posted by
generalbulldog
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Originally Posted by
JonnyFolds
Duran would whoop that ass all up and down the ring. Best lightweight ever.
Only fighters to give him trouble:
Shane Mosley WW
Chavez LWW
Sweet Pea LWW
Meldrick Taylor
LWW
Taylor was a 140 pound fighter, not a 135 one, even though he started his career there.
Mosley and Chavez lose a UD to Duran. Against Whitaker I slightly favor Duran, but it will be close.
Remember folks, Duran at 135 has speed, power, chin, and endless stamina, there's a reason why he's considered to be a top 2 lightweight of all time.
Look man, I'm diggin deep here... I know (and I think you do too) no one beats Duran at LW. So I've gotta pick guys that were monsters at higher weights to compare him to. He's my favorite, and he's the best. None of those fighters made careers at LW.
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duran snarles and swarms to a late tko or ud over 15 rounds over 12 a def ud for duran. at the press conference after the fight duran simply says next time i keel him
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
I think Mosley would've made a very competitive fight against Duran, but would lose by decision. Chavez would lose to Duran by KO in the middle rounds.
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Duran at 135 would have bullied his way through Mayweather.
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One of the few opponents at one of the few weights where I would say Floyd would almost certainly lose.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
I think Mosley would've made a very competitive fight against Duran, but would lose by decision. Chavez would lose to Duran by KO in the middle rounds.
Wow you kidding Titofan ? i normally think your posts are spot on. But i couldn't disagree more with this post, Julio Cesar Chavez had one of the best chins of all time.
He walked through a huge puncher like Edwin Rosario, plus it took 90+ fights to finally knockdown him down. I'd be very suprised if Roberto Duran would stop Julio Cesar Chavez at all, let alone in the middle rounds.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
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Originally Posted by
God.in.my.corner
Duran would beat anyone at 135, including Mayweather and Mosley.
Sweet Pea could also take Floyd in my opinion.
and Aaron Pryor would demolish Mayweather...
Aaron Pryor would not demolish Floyd Mayweather Jr, Aaron Pryor is a bit overrated amongst fans these days. Yes he looked impressive vs Alexis Arguello who was slightly past his best and above his best weightclass, and against a past his prime Antonio Cervantes.
But other than that who else was there on his record ? it seems to me Aaron Pryor is a bit of myth. Because SRL supposedly avoided him, which im not saying is untrue.
But because of that he seems to get overrated, he only ever met one slick fighter in Gary Hilton. Who almost beat him, Aaron Pryor's reckless style wouldn't be effective against Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Pernell Whitaker would give Roberto Duran alot of trouble, Pernell Whitaker was very good at dealing with pressure fighters. Julio Cesar Chavez, Greg Haugen, Jose Luis Ramirez, Jorge Paez, Julio Cesar Vasquez, ETC.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
God.in.my.corner
Duran would beat anyone at 135, including Mayweather and Mosley.
Sweet Pea could also take Floyd in my opinion.
and Aaron Pryor would demolish Mayweather...
Aaron Pryor would not demolish Floyd Mayweather Jr, Aaron Pryor is a bit overrated amongst fans these days. Yes he looked impressive vs Alexis Arguello who was slightly past his best and above his best weightclass, and against a past his prime Antonio Cervantes.
But other than that who else was there on his record ? it seems to me Aaron Pryor is a bit of myth. Because SRL supposedly avoided him, which im not saying is untrue.
But because of that he seems to get overrated, he only ever met one slick fighter in Gary Hilton. Who almost beat him, Aaron Pryor's reckless style wouldn't be effective against Floyd Mayweather Jr.
Pernell Whitaker would give Roberto Duran alot of trouble, Pernell Whitaker was very good at dealing with pressure fighters. Julio Cesar Chavez, Greg Haugen, Jose Luis Ramirez, Jorge Paez, Julio Cesar Vasquez, ETC.
Whitaker could give Duran trouble at 135 based on styles. But you are forgetting one thing, A prime Roberto Duran at 135 ain't no Julio Cesar Chavez, Jorge Paez, Jose Luis Ramirez, Julio Cesar Vasquez, etc. Duran was miles ahead of those guys in talent, boxing ability, chin, speed, power, especially at 135.
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
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Originally Posted by
ICB
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
I think Mosley would've made a very competitive fight against Duran, but would lose by decision. Chavez would lose to Duran by KO in the middle rounds.
Wow you kidding Titofan ? i normally think your posts are spot on. But i couldn't disagree more with this post, Julio Cesar Chavez had one of the best chins of all time.
He walked through a huge puncher like Edwin Rosario, plus it took 90+ fights to finally knockdown him down. I'd be very suprised if Roberto Duran would stop Julio Cesar Chavez at all, let alone in the middle rounds.
LOL, Ice. I'm glad we agree most of the time. Edwin "Chapo" Rosario WAS a huge puncher alright. But I think his lack of preparation was a big factor in his loss to Chavez. As for Duran, he wasn't just a huge puncher at 135. He was a DEVASTATING puncher. And he was relentless. He was one scary dude. His attitude was another factor. Duran wanted to take your head off in the ring. He just had this meanness about him... sort of like a lightweight Mike Tyson in his prime. I'm not saying Chavez wouldn't be competitive, but I still think Duran takes him out by KO.
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Floyd would get Duran into a state of aggravation so early in the fight he would nbot know if he should spit or go blind...But with that being said...The Duran at LW was not the Duran that said No Mas because he became frustrated with Leonards unwillingness to engage.....The LW version of Duran would have stayed on Floyd to the point Floyd would have no choice but to trade with him and that would end his night
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DURAN...all day long!!!!!!
Floyd likes to talk shit and get his opponent out of their gameplan, but Roberto Duran would end up baiting Floyd to stand toe to toe with him and he'd batter Floyd!!!! You saw what Jose Luis Castillo did to Floyd in their first fight.....imagine if Duran had been inflicting that punishment, it would have been stopped by the 8th!!!! If Roberto Duran can beat a Prime Ray Leonard he schools the hell out of Floyd Mayweather Jr.!!!
How would Floyd handle the psychological games from Duran? Sure he joked around and made fun of guys like JMM and Hatton but Duran had MALICE in his psychological warfare and it would surely get to Floyd whom I think has a VERY delicate constitution to begin with....Floyd may very well have cried at the press conferences if he was there with Duran.
PBF would have had a better shot vs Julio Cesar Chavez
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Originally Posted by
Master
Duran was the greatest lightweight ever and was unstoppable force who had non-stop punch power, speed and boxing skills.
I second that.
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Originally Posted by
Lyle
DURAN...all day long!!!!!!
Floyd likes to talk shit and get his opponent out of their gameplan, but Roberto Duran would end up baiting Floyd to stand toe to toe with him and he'd batter Floyd!!!! You saw what Jose Luis Castillo did to Floyd in their first fight.....imagine if Duran had been inflicting that punishment, it would have been stopped by the 8th!!!! If Roberto Duran can beat a Prime Ray Leonard he schools the hell out of Floyd Mayweather Jr.!!!
How would Floyd handle the psychological games from Duran? Sure he joked around and made fun of guys like JMM and Hatton but Duran had MALICE in his psychological warfare and it would surely get to Floyd whom I think has a VERY delicate constitution to begin with....Floyd may very well have cried at the press conferences if he was there with Duran.
PBF would have had a better shot vs Julio Cesar Chavez
Good point Duran did not say things to be funny or cute or to make himself look tough...He meant what he said and was vicious with words at times....PBF would have realized real quick he was not the hard core kid from the streets he wants to be
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Re: Mayweather vs Duran at 135, who would win?
I know I'm alone here, but over 12 (15 I think Duran takes a UD) I see Mayweather taking a SD. I think Duran starts well, Mayweather adapts to take the middle rounds by fighting off the back foot & Duran takes the end. I think it's a close either-way fight. I also think Whitaker-Duran goes exactly the same, only difference being Duran takes the SD, because Whitaker never had the best of luck with judges.
I don't think ANYONE could ever war with Duran at 147 or below, so I see solid boxing off the back-foot as the way to beat him. I think Mosley would be a good fight, but Duran takes a solid UD.