What would have been the outcome?
I think Pac would have beat Shane by decision rather than KO, I'm about 60/40 in favour of a decision.
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What would have been the outcome?
I think Pac would have beat Shane by decision rather than KO, I'm about 60/40 in favour of a decision.
Shane gets seriously hurt en route to a UD for Pacquiao, well this version of Shane. I think he's done as a fighter.
Oh yeah at this stage he is Floyd approved.Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Watching Mosley/Mayweather for the first time right now.For the life of me I dont know how he 'let' Mayweather close out the next 10 after that 2nd round drunken dance.Think he got a bit of bad advice in third,try to out speed Mayweather??...power worked,was there...stick with it.That Mosley was not faster than Mayweather.
Pac/Mosley would have been a harsh fight for both.so many more exchanges forced off Manny pressure.And I dont think Manny has been forced on backfoot or caught power like he would have vs Mosley.Off the top I think Manny takes it over 12,if he mixes smart.Shit..Id still like that fight ???.........in fairness.Its only the 5th round here:cwm13:
if Mosley would have landed the bombs that he landed on Mayweather in the 2nd he would have had a 2nd round KO win against Pacquiao
I don't think so, I think Pac is tough enough to take them shots too. I doubt he would cling on to Shanes arm for dear life but he would be hurt for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
the shots Shane landed would have hurt ANYONE at 147, no doubt in my mind that Mosley still is the hardest hitting welterweight todayQuote:
Originally Posted by KelI don't think so, I think Pac is tough enough to take them shots too. I doubt he would cling on to Shanes arm for dear life but he would be hurt for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
I'm going by the way he took shots off guys like Cotto, I agree Shane still hits very hard, if you are too stationary he will KO you no question.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe shots Shane landed would have hurt ANYONE at 147, no doubt in my mind that Mosley still is the hardest hitting welterweight todayQuote:
Originally Posted by KelI don't think so, I think Pac is tough enough to take them shots too. I doubt he would cling on to Shanes arm for dear life but he would be hurt for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
No doubt Mosley could have hurt Manny, but the top fighters take those punches. Pac would likely have weathered those moments too. Pac would have won by decision or stoppage down the stretch. Mosley doesn't have enough defence and would have got caught a lot.
Shane still looked faster than Cotto last Saturday and Cotto landed plenty of leather on Manny, Pacquiao isn't elusive or some defensive wiz by any meansQuote:
Originally Posted by KelI'm going by the way he took shots off guys like Cotto, I agree Shane still hits very hard, if you are too stationary he will KO you no question.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesthe shots Shane landed would have hurt ANYONE at 147, no doubt in my mind that Mosley still is the hardest hitting welterweight todayQuote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Mosley is stopped on accumulation of punishment because he's too tired to throw anything by the start of round 3...Pac by TKO in 6
Look at how gassed Shane was after two rounds. Manny overwhelms him and it's stopped on accumulated punishment in the 9th or 10th.
Pac tends to panic a little when he takes a big shot. He tries to retaliate right away. Which would of been a mistake against Mosley. Who would catch him lunging in.Quote:
Originally Posted by KelI don't think so, I think Pac is tough enough to take them shots too. I doubt he would cling on to Shanes arm for dear life but he would be hurt for a second.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Roided up Manny versus that non roided up Shane of last week=late stoppage for Manny.
Non roided up Manny versus non roided up Shane= Manny outworks him but they're both on the verge of collapsing by the twelfth.
I'm under the impression that Shane would have hit Pacquiao a lot more often he hit Floyd and wouldnt have expended so much energy trying to find him.
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
wait a minute! you have proven already that pac is on roids?
Every body knows he's juiced. Every body that knows boxing that isQuote:
Originally Posted by mnmc10Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
wait a minute! you have proven already that pac is on roids?
pac goes for the kill while mayweather just wants to finish with a W... money doesn't seem to care about KOs or the fans enjoyment of the fights.
so i think pac woulda taken shane out around round 7.
first of all, mosley/pacquiao will never happen. it's too much of a dangerous fight for pacquiao, besides, they've already ducked him! and to say pacquiao ko's mosley simply does not know that mosley has never been ko'd. and what makes anybody think mosley can't hurt pacquiao? sure he can and he probably would. pacquiao is a great fighter like mosley, williams, mayweather and others. he's not the only great fighter in the sport. and since he is human, he too can get hurt and ko'd.
I think Pacquiao would have won, but in a very difficult fight because its Floyd's elusiveness and ability to draw you into a boxing contest that makes guys like MOsley so ineffective against him. In either a slug out or a boxing contest against Pacquiao, I think Mosley does much better simply because Pacquiao isn't as skilled as Floyd.
This Question kind of has me wondering if Manny will try and challenge most to try and prove some point? Stlyes Make fights though i cant guess
One things for sure I don't think that Shane would have gassed out as badly as he did against Floyd.
He burned up so much nervous energy standing in front of Floyd trying to second guess him/look for shots, he couldn't just relax and let it flow like he did with Margarito... Because he was finding it hard to figure out were Floyd was/was gonna be.
Don't think he would have burned up half as much energy trying to find Pac. Pac's got a lot of Athleticism but I still don't think that he's that smart of a boxer.
I also think that the worst thing Shane could of done was hit Floyd with his money shot (right hand over the jab) so early... once Floyd has been stung there was no chance it was going to land again and Shane spent the rest of the fight looking for it.
It could've gone eitherway, PAC is hittable compared to Floyd but PAC has more power and more relentless than PBF. So If Pac got nailed by that right hand in the 2nd he could've been stopped otherwise Manny stops Mosely late in the fight.
This is the single best post on what happened in that fight. It's clear that Shane can't deal with guys who he has to figure out (Floyd, Winky & Cotto early). The difference with Floyd is that he never found anything after that 2nd round and used all his energy up trying to create openings. Pacquiao stylistically is a great fight for Shane, comes at you with a leaky defence. Shane has one of the best chins in boxing, and I still think hits harder than Pacquiao, and even if Pac does hurt him, he's not the amazing finisher that many make him out to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by AdamGB
Exactly, if Clottey was too tough of a nut to crack then how is he going to break down Shane and stop him? :)
i think pac could of stopped shane, shane looked done if im honest
9 people voted that pacquiao would knock out mosley :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:
Mosley aint going down for nobody in his career, not floyd and not manny
I would of had a similar situation to the beatdown he put on cotto only with mosley taking slightly less punishment
Something like a 118-110 win for pac
i think mosley would of wilted around the 9th or 10th, mosley was looking tired with mayweather, i got the impression that if mayweather would of steeped it up a gear he could of gotten shane out of there, this is wear i think pac wouldnt of let him off the hookQuote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
I really think Shane beats Manny, Styles make fights and Manny whilst awsome is kind of easy to hit, against Mosley that's a problem if Mosley land a few big shots this fight is over.
shane knocks out pacman if he hit him like he hit floyd in the second, no amount of roids would of saved him.
theres no way to really tell, imo it would ve been alot more competitive. Mosley was simply mentally crushed after he landed those hard shots. Mayweather came back from that strong and started landing hard shots. When you you hit someone with all youve got and they dont go down, something in terms of "o sh*t" pops into your head. Mayweather proceeded to make him miss, which further made him give up.
that being said, Manny is much more hittable then mayweather is, if mosely was getting off, he would have some momentum going, dont know who wins until i see how mosely does in his next fight because honestly, i dont know if mosely got old or if it was maywaether