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I have a bad feeling that Frochs chin is finally going to collapse in this fight and Abraham is going to KO him heavily in a similar manner to Taylor.
we can only hope dat abraham does ko him haha. Im abraham for da winner of da tourney all da way.
Froch is 33 and his last 4 fights have all gone 12 with three of them being very hard fights at the highest level, I am with you RJJ, I am a bit worried what he has left, especially after last time where he lost to an average Kessler.
styles make fights and i think kessler has the style to beat froch mainly because of the work rate
froch struggled with taylor because of the same reason
abraham doesnt exactly have that, i think his style suits froch as much as the other way around
my money is on abraham tho and perhaps by late KO, but i reckon its gonna be fight of the year, it has all the makings of a cracker and i wouldnt be suprised if the KO goes the other way
Abraham is as one dimensional as they come and dirrell showed the whole world that outside of germany he really isnt anything other than a decent counter puncher who is far too stagnant to ever make an impression at elite level.
As long as carl doesnt try to fight fire with fire he should quite easily be able to run rings around AA via his superb fighting technique and take a unanimous decision with possibly abraham getting stopped late on
One of my biggest bets of 2010 will be on a carl froch victory here
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ulWjFfLsL0Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
love it mateQuote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
im changing my bet
As mad as HTH is, I actually think he might be right in this one. I give Froch a decent shot of outboxing Abraham and working a decision. He needs to bank early and then be extra vigilant down the stretch. As Abraham begins to open up he will give Froch opportunities.
Should be a corker.
Like Froch always does he'll get into a punch-up but this time he'll be facing a guy just as strong and probably one of the top P4P punchers in the world.
For Froch it's gonna be - TIMMMBBERRR!!!
I think the big difference in this fight will be the defense of Arthur Abraham, his defense is pretty solid. And in a fight like this, where it will be a punch up from the opening bell. I think the smart money would be on the man, with the much better defense aka Arthur Abraham.
YAWN!!!!!!!
More blatant froch hating on this site i see, and would you believe its the very same ones who choose to hate on the likes of ortiz, khan, de-gale etc
froch whopped dirrell - dirrell whooped abraham
how do we possibly come to the conclusion that abraham whoops froch??
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Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
im not licking his bum or anything but the man has a point
Froch 'Whipped' Dirrell ;D Not in the figh I was watching
And since when has Fighter 'A' beat Fighter 'B' so can't beta Fighter 'D' logic ever been relevant?
Thats nothing mate, he also claimed Carl Froch was robbed vs Mikkel Kessler. And was ahead on points going into the last round vs Jermain Taylor.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
he said froch whopped dirrell not whipped, theres a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
and he whopped him good, if the ref had of had any bottle dirrell would have been DQ'd after 5 rounds for running and holding
Lol, what's the difference then?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44he said froch whopped dirrell not whipped, theres a differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
and he whopped him good, if the ref had of had any bottle dirrell would have been DQ'd after 5 rounds for running and holding
...and whatever you think about the outcome of that fiight there was no "Whopping" or "Whipping" by anybody
hth - Froch and Dirrell was close anyway you look at it - Froch barely pulled it out. Dirrell beat Abraham because of his work rate. Froch and Dirrell have completely different styles. Moreover, Abraham looked a lot better than Froch against Taylor whereas Froch beat Taylor in the last few rounds, Abraham was winning the majority of the fight before he knocked Taylor out. However, Taylor and Froch have very different styles. I thought Froch's workrate wasn't high enough in the Kessler fight, and from what I've seen to beat Abraham, a high work rate is essential. Plus, Froch has a horrible habit of keeping his hands low, against a fighter like Abraham who has a devestating punch, that could spell trouble. Froch has grown on me a little bit. I'm not counting him out in this one, but I think Abraham should be favored.Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
Whipping is what gay american boys do to each other and whopping is what froch did to dirrellQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
are you english?
taylor still had ambition and belief when he fought froch so it doesnt countQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Whipping is what gay american boys do to each other and whopping is what froch did to dirrellQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
are you english?
and you think that dirrell didnt get a whopping? pretty wierdQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Whipping is what gay american boys do to each other and whopping is what froch did to dirrellQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
are you english?
do you wear a baseball cap back to front anytime?
Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44taylor still had ambition and belief when he fought froch so it doesnt countQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
once again spot on erics
rantracat - froch doesnt have dirrells work rate???
i urge you to go and rewatch froch-pascal then tell me that again
either way, my point was mainly that styles make fights. Dirrell showed how to beat Abraham - workrate and defense. keep hooking and punching his gloves and make him miss. froch keeps his hands low and his work rate was a little suspect in the Kessler fight. i thought the Kessler fight was a winnable fight for Froch, like it wasn't about Kessler winning, as much as it was about Froch losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44taylor still had ambition and belief when he fought froch so it doesnt countQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
that was a great example of his work rate. but, where was it in the Kessler fight? and that was his most recent fight against in my opinion, on that night, an easier opponent. doesn't his hands being held so low, worry you a little against a big puncher, like Abraham?Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44taylor still had ambition and belief when he fought froch so it doesnt countQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
once again spot on erics
rantracat - froch doesnt have dirrells work rate???
i urge you to go and rewatch froch-pascal then tell me that again
you talk like there is only one way to beat himQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrateither way, my point was mainly that styles make fights. Dirrell showed how to beat Abraham - workrate and defense. keep hooking and punching his gloves and make him miss. froch keeps his hands low and his work rate was a little suspect in the Kessler fight. i thought the Kessler fight was a winnable fight for Froch, like it wasn't about Kessler winning, as much as it was about Froch losing.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44taylor still had ambition and belief when he fought froch so it doesnt countQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
Froch is at his best when his opponent wants to trade
When Froch trades with Abraham it'll be goodnight vienna.
Dirrell beat Abraham with his footwork. Abraham himself admitted he was too slow in the fight - he's been working on moving his feet faster for the Froch fight (not that he needs to be quick against Froch).
pascal would beat 7 shades of shit out of abrahamQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatratthat was a great example of his work rate. but, where was it in the Kessler fight? and that was his most recent fight against in my opinion, on that night, an easier opponent. doesn't his hands being held so low, worry you a little against a big puncher, like Abraham?Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44taylor still had ambition and belief when he fought froch so it doesnt countQuote:
Originally Posted by Rantcatrat
once again spot on erics
rantracat - froch doesnt have dirrells work rate???
i urge you to go and rewatch froch-pascal then tell me that again
froch manned it out that night and went toe to toe with pascal even when he didnt really need too. If you think abraham offers anything in a fight that pascal doesnt your wrong
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Originally Posted by Fenster
you talk like froch is easy to beat
one thing that is very common on this forum is peoples dislike for boxers clouding their judgement
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Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
you talk like froch is easy to beat
one thing that is very common on this forum is peoples dislike for boxers clouding their judgement
ignore fenster
other than ice he is the sites froch hater
Ice once said he could go the distance with manny pacQuote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
you talk like froch is easy to beat
one thing that is very common on this forum is peoples dislike for boxers clouding their judgement
ignore fenster
other than ice he is the sites froch hater
I never said Froch was easy to beat. I like him.
But the fact is he was decked by Taylor, stunned by Dirrell, shook by Kessler and Pascal and rocked by Aussie Sheep farmer Dale Westerman, so how anyone can possibly think he's gonna walk through Arthur Abraham's bombs i'll never know.
How ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Ice once said he could go the distance with manny pacQuote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
you talk like froch is easy to beat
one thing that is very common on this forum is peoples dislike for boxers clouding their judgement
ignore fenster
other than ice he is the sites froch hater
Froch, with his shitty defense, wouldn't make it past one round against Pacster. Fact.
Thats one way of looking at it but on the other hand you could say Abraham knocked Dirrell spark out and Dirrel handed Carl a boxing lesson so how can anyone give Carl a hope in this fight especially when Dirrell who has been in with both men thinks Abraham wins this one early.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
im not licking his bum or anything but the man has a point
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Originally Posted by erics44and you think that dirrell didnt get a whopping? pretty wierdQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Whipping is what gay american boys do to each other and whopping is what froch did to dirrellQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
are you english?
do you wear a baseball cap back to front anytime?
Pretty weird that I don't think a fighter got "A Whopping" in a fight that most boxing writers and approx 65% of people on this site think the other guy one :confused: I could make a case for Froch winning (although I don't think he did) but a "Whopping" LMAO
I'm like Fenster a complete patriot, but I'm also realistic. The only person who's judgement is clouded is yours fella.
You at HTH need to get a room ;D
Do you mean whupping?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Whipping is what gay american boys do to each other and whopping is what froch did to dirrellQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
are you english?
What the fuck is whopping?
people keep saying this stunned by dirrell, i dont remember that happening, i dont remember him shook by pascal or kessler eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
but it seems to me you do have something against the dude
an englishman hating an englishman because he has found some success why are englishmen so stoopid?
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Originally Posted by FensterHow ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Ice once said he could go the distance with manny pacQuote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammerQuote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
you talk like froch is easy to beat
one thing that is very common on this forum is peoples dislike for boxers clouding their judgement
ignore fenster
other than ice he is the sites froch hater
Froch, with his shitty defense, wouldn't make it past one round against Pacster. Fact.
Ice said that he himself could go the distance with pac
you really think pac would beat froch? jeees man what is wrong with people?
If your interpretation of a boxing lesson is running around for 12rounds and falling on the floor at every opportunity then yes your rightQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEThats one way of looking at it but on the other hand you could say Abraham knocked Dirrell spark out and Dirrel handed Carl a boxing lesson so how can anyone give Carl a hope in this fight especially when Dirrell who has been in with both men thinks Abraham wins this one early.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Quote:
Originally Posted by HattonTheHammer
im not licking his bum or anything but the man has a point
please refer to my previous post about englishmen hating englishmenQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
its pretty sickly dudes