Boxing topics that bring out the bias

i think one topic that seems hardest for people to be objective about is the haye klit saga, even more so than pac/mayweather, take a recent thread "Is haye a compulsive liar?", obviously designed by a haye hater to sway opinion against haye

Possibly because i have been involved in most of the Froch threads recently, there seems to be a lot of bias that afect the judgements of fans both for and against froch

are there any other issues/fights/results that people seem to find it hard to express an objective opinion when discussing?

People will always display bias in favour or against the fighters that interest them. I am quite guilty of it too, but in quieter moments will admit that Amir Khan is quite good and that Mayweather is likely not a homosexual. I guess some people can take things too far. In tems of Haye and Wlad Klit, I don't really care for either fighter. But I think Haye is the cause.

Manny Pacquiao. Some of the fans that came in here around after the Hatton fight were just ridiculous. In their eyes, the man could do no wrong. Not only did their bias make you sway on the other side of their opinion, it had you wanting him to lose badly just to see their reaction. Thankfully most if not all of those idiots have disappeared.

Their was also alot of bias about Ricky Hatton. Alot for him, alot against. I'm a massive Hatton fan but I try not to be too bias in favour of him. Of course, he was well ahead on the scorecards against Mayweather until Cortez cost him the fight, and that slip in the second round against Pacquiao wasn't enough to stop the fight IMO.

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Originally Posted by miles

People will always display bias in favour or against the fighters that interest them. I am quite guilty of it too, but in quieter moments will admit that Amir Khan is quite good and that Mayweather is likely not a homosexual. I guess some people can take things too far. In tems of Haye and Wlad Klit, I don't really care for either fighter. But I think Haye is the cause.

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is that in the quieter moments too?

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Originally Posted by erics44

i think one topic that seems hardest for people to be objective about is the haye klit saga, even more so than pac/mayweather, take a recent thread "Is haye a compulsive liar?", obviously designed by a haye hater to sway opinion against haye

Possibly because i have been involved in most of the Froch threads recently, there seems to be a lot of bias that afect the judgements of fans both for and against froch

are there any other issues/fights/results that people seem to find it hard to express an objective opinion when discussing?

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It is difficult there are alot of class posters on here unlike other boxing forums but there is the odd bias person I try and be as impartial as possible.

I think we all can be bias at one stage or another, I use to be a little bit took in by the Hatton hype when I first joined here but as I have got older and gathered more knowledge I would say I am anything but bias.

I said Daxx was being bias in the Froch thread for the fact he has slated Froch in the past at some press conference he attended and he didnt like his attitude or something along those lines, and I thought his post was pretty pathetic trying to break down Frochs resume with every negative possible even though it is probably one of of not the best resume in the last two years in the whole game.

Eric if I am honest I think you are bias towards British fighters but overall your not a bad poster and you do try and fight your corner well when challenged with your opinions.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by erics44

i think one topic that seems hardest for people to be objective about is the haye klit saga, even more so than pac/mayweather, take a recent thread "Is haye a compulsive liar?", obviously designed by a haye hater to sway opinion against haye

Possibly because i have been involved in most of the Froch threads recently, there seems to be a lot of bias that afect the judgements of fans both for and against froch

are there any other issues/fights/results that people seem to find it hard to express an objective opinion when discussing?

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It is difficult there are alot of class posters on here unlike other boxing forums but there is the odd bias person I try and be as impartial as possible.

I think we all can be bias at one stage or another, I use to be a little bit took in by the Hatton hype when I first joined here but as I have got older and gathered more knowledge I would say I am anything but bias.

I said Daxx was being bias in the Froch thread for the fact he has slated Froch in the past at some press conference he attended and he didnt like his attitude or something along those lines, and I thought his post was pretty pathetic trying to break down Frochs resume with every negative possible even though it is probably one of of not the best resume in the last two years in the whole game.

Eric if I am honest I think you are bias towards British fighters but overall your not a bad poster and you do try and fight your corner well when challenged with your opinions.

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thanks dude thats the nicest thing you have said to me :)

i admit i can lean towards the british fighter a bit, but im good at fighting my corner because im usually right

im not sure i agree with the fact that you as you seem to be suggesting that there isnt that much biast on this forum. I think that there is a lot, and it seems like a lot of peoples posts are heavily influenced by their dislike for certain boxers, haye is a prime example

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by miles

People will always display bias in favour or against the fighters that interest them. I am quite guilty of it too, but in quieter moments will admit that Amir Khan is quite good and that Mayweather is likely not a homosexual. I guess some people can take things too far. In tems of Haye and Wlad Klit, I don't really care for either fighter. But I think Haye is the cause.

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is that in the quieter moments too?

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a perfect example of your own bias ;)

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by miles

People will always display bias in favour or against the fighters that interest them. I am quite guilty of it too, but in quieter moments will admit that Amir Khan is quite good and that Mayweather is likely not a homosexual. I guess some people can take things too far. In tems of Haye and Wlad Klit, I don't really care for either fighter. But I think Haye is the cause.

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is that in the quieter moments too?

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a perfect example of your own bias ;)

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you are quick on the draw today bro

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by miles

People will always display bias in favour or against the fighters that interest them. I am quite guilty of it too, but in quieter moments will admit that Amir Khan is quite good and that Mayweather is likely not a homosexual. I guess some people can take things too far. In tems of Haye and Wlad Klit, I don't really care for either fighter. But I think Haye is the cause.

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is that in the quieter moments too?

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Indeed.

Sometimes it's the posters that are the most pathetic, delusional and ignorant that make for the best threads though. I quite miss the days of constantly destroying Calzaghe haters. Fact.

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Originally Posted by erics44

i think one topic that seems hardest for people to be objective about is the haye klit saga, even more so than pac/mayweather, take a recent thread "Is haye a compulsive liar?", obviously designed by a haye hater to sway opinion against haye

Possibly because i have been involved in most of the Froch threads recently, there seems to be a lot of bias that afect the judgements of fans both for and against froch

are there any other issues/fights/results that people seem to find it hard to express an objective opinion when discussing?

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I made that thread, and although I'm not a Haye fan (I'm sick of his talk first and work...one day, attitude) those sorts of topics are to get people talking. No point if all threads were all people saying "I agree" and "yep sounds right. Would make the forum very dull and boring, kind of why I stay away from actual boxers forums where the people are all fans of one person and their is no critical discussion.

Any fighter that splits fans will be a good talking point. Would you rather have a forum of "Audley Harrison is a joke" threads?

Haye is clearly a liar though and all the evidence points towards him being a total fraud at HW.

There is no bias in suggesting that.

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Originally Posted by iamasadlittleboy

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Originally Posted by erics44

i think one topic that seems hardest for people to be objective about is the haye klit saga, even more so than pac/mayweather, take a recent thread "Is haye a compulsive liar?", obviously designed by a haye hater to sway opinion against haye

Possibly because i have been involved in most of the Froch threads recently, there seems to be a lot of bias that afect the judgements of fans both for and against froch

are there any other issues/fights/results that people seem to find it hard to express an objective opinion when discussing?

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I made that thread, and although I'm not a Haye fan (I'm sick of his talk first and work...one day, attitude) those sorts of topics are to get people talking. No point if all threads were all people saying "I agree" and "yep sounds right. Would make the forum very dull and boring, kind of why I stay away from actual boxers forums where the people are all fans of one person and their is no critical discussion.

Any fighter that splits fans will be a good talking point. Would you rather have a forum of "Audley Harrison is a joke" threads?

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im not knocking your thread in that way dude, i didnt say your thread was shit

much better than the constant pac man threads too

just think that the opinions in it are driven by your feelings towards haye

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Originally Posted by miles

Haye is clearly a liar though and all the evidence points towards him being a total fraud at HW.

There is no bias in suggesting that.

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yep, there is :)

I always give fighters their due in the ring a good win is a good win...EG I can not stand PBF and do thi8nk he has made some very cautious comp choices looking to beat them when they are ripe but with that being said I also do not think he could not beat some of the guys he has swayed around I don;t like to say duck because at the level he and others at the elite fashion are at don't duck anyone or at least I hope not....My example I always use with Floyd is why did he choose Gatti at LWW when Cotto was the man at the moment...Cotto was the guy knocking everyone out is why.....Why do we not defend our WW title when there were plenty of worthy guys around....Because at the time Williams, Cotto, Margarito etc were there beati8ng the shit out of everyone Floyds talents can not be denied like I said but he also seems like he rather stay away from dangerous fights if possible....He rather win over a guy who poses less of a challenge then beat a gu8y he has to nactually put somke effort into it and maybe deal with a few tough moments....Same for haye.....

The real thing about them I just become biased on is the fact they talk too much but do not follow up on things....

ALi- Maybe the best trash talker in history and he called out the cream of the crop during the divisions greatest eras...He fought who he called out....

Mayorga- might be one of the biggest jerks when it comes to hitting below the belt in terms of trash talk but shit he fights the guys he talks about....

I could go on but that is just an example....Talk the talk then walk the walk....If not then just shut up

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Originally Posted by erics44

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i think one topic that seems hardest for people to be objective about is the haye klit saga, even more so than pac/mayweather, take a recent thread "Is haye a compulsive liar?", obviously designed by a haye hater to sway opinion against haye

Possibly because i have been involved in most of the Froch threads recently, there seems to be a lot of bias that afect the judgements of fans both for and against froch

are there any other issues/fights/results that people seem to find it hard to express an objective opinion when discussing?

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I made that thread, and although I'm not a Haye fan (I'm sick of his talk first and work...one day, attitude) those sorts of topics are to get people talking. No point if all threads were all people saying "I agree" and "yep sounds right. Would make the forum very dull and boring, kind of why I stay away from actual boxers forums where the people are all fans of one person and their is no critical discussion.

Any fighter that splits fans will be a good talking point. Would you rather have a forum of "Audley Harrison is a joke" threads?

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im not knocking your thread in that way dude, i didnt say your thread was shit

much better than the constant pac man threads too

just think that the opinions in it are driven by your feelings towards haye

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Of course they are. I've berated Haye's heavyweight campaign from start to end and until he does something drastic I'll continue to do so. I don't mind calling it down the middle but generally I'm biased towards fighters who get in the ring and do the job, especially the exciting come forward types, those that talk are going to be given a hard time by me.

It's okay to be bias as long as you give props to the opposing fighter whether or not he got his ass handed to him.

Give credit. Learn how to respect. Don't hate. Don't be a sore loser.

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

It's okay to be bias as long as you give props to the opposing fighter whether or not he got his ass handed to him.

Give credit. Learn how to respect. Don't hate. Don't be a sore loser.

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Well said...At minimum provide reasoning why you are biased against a fighter

I had problems with bias before the Manny Pacquiao vs Margarito fight because I heard that Margarito's crew had laced his gloves with plaster o' paris in his bout with Shane Mosley. I hate cheating more than anything in this world and nearly hated Antonio/made him the villain for going through with that; but then, I realized that was a long time ago and he has probably changed/become a better man since then. Regardless, I believe that for the amount of work they put in and what they go through, every boxer deserves a clean or at least respected slate in our mind and we only have the right to judge the fight not the man.

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Originally Posted by skel1983

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Originally Posted by erics44

i think one topic that seems hardest for people to be objective about is the haye klit saga, even more so than pac/mayweather, take a recent thread "Is haye a compulsive liar?", obviously designed by a haye hater to sway opinion against haye

Possibly because i have been involved in most of the Froch threads recently, there seems to be a lot of bias that afect the judgements of fans both for and against froch

are there any other issues/fights/results that people seem to find it hard to express an objective opinion when discussing?

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It is difficult there are alot of class posters on here unlike other boxing forums but there is the odd bias person I try and be as impartial as possible.

I think we all can be bias at one stage or another, I use to be a little bit took in by the Hatton hype when I first joined here but as I have got older and gathered more knowledge I would say I am anything but bias.

I said Daxx was being bias in the Froch thread for the fact he has slated Froch in the past at some press conference he attended and he didnt like his attitude or something along those lines, and I thought his post was pretty pathetic trying to break down Frochs resume with every negative possible even though it is probably one of of not the best resume in the last two years in the whole game.

Eric if I am honest I think you are bias towards British fighters but overall your not a bad poster and you do try and fight your corner well when challenged with your opinions.

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AHH the hell with it I was going to blast you but if you are still that worked up because I don't think Froch is the greatest thing since sliced bread and flatscreen TVs in a post in a whole different thread I don't want you to have a breakdown

I think we are all bias. We have certain fighters we like or dislike for various reasons. But I am willing to give a fighter his due if he proves his mettle, Khan is an example. I was a harsh critic on him, but the guy proved me wrong in the Maidana fight. I'm not 1 of those guys that comes up with lame excuses if a fighter I was biased against does something good. First and foremost I am a boxing fan first. Hell even VD gave Khan his due. And no matter how much I dislike a boxer for various reasons, I will never state that 1 is a coward/pussy/chicken, probably 1 of my biggest pet peeves.

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

It's okay to be bias as long as you give props to the opposing fighter whether or not he got his ass handed to him.

Give credit. Learn how to respect. Don't hate. Don't be a sore loser.

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yep there is nothing wrong with being bias

the question is tho, which topics bring out the bias

my take is that the haye klit situation seems to be the best (or worst if you want to look at it that way) at stirring the feelings of the boxing fan

i think people really struggle to look at it objectively

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Originally Posted by erics44

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Originally Posted by :::PSL:::

It's okay to be bias as long as you give props to the opposing fighter whether or not he got his ass handed to him.

Give credit. Learn how to respect. Don't hate. Don't be a sore loser.

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yep there is nothing wrong with being bias

the question is tho, which topics bring out the bias

my take is that the haye klit situation seems to be the best (or worst if you want to look at it that way) at stirring the feelings of the boxing fan

i think people really struggle to look at it objectively

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In truth I think it can be any on going topic that has not result...Like mentioned Klitschko/Haye or PBF/Pacquiao...They just never seem to end and develope a tobloid like aura to them...So people pick sides and start slinging mud around etc....Would be different I guess if there was a debate and somehow there wa sa resolution or even if the fighters just moved on to something new instead of a constant BS negotiations and he said she said crap....Funny thing is these are supposed to be pro fighters yet it is all carried on like a soap opera

Anything where a fighter is popular will have a split, Mike Tyson being a great example, or where theirs some controversy that international boxing fans get a good sniff of. Just imagine if the internet was around in the 30's we'd have had so much fun with Carnera "useless big lump"/"Talented giant", Braddock "White collar champion"/"a title waiting to be taken" etcs.