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James Toney - Boxer
I don't know what I think. I hope to god that he is training and that he destroys his man. Beyond this, I don't know. If it means 3 quick fights in a row then I will be delighted. If it means he vanishes for another year, then screw him.
But Toney is back, thoughts?
My question is why?...Reallly what does he have left to offer? He can not beat either Klitschko, he can not beat Haye or even Adamek/ARREOLA ETC ....James last fights have been snoozers and annoying with the lack of respect he gives the sport by coming in the way he does and I don't mean appearence wise.....He was just embaressed by his MMA stint (WTF was he thinking Randy Couture?....Not the best opp for your first MMA fight is it)....Toney is just another fighter who can not leave the spotlight behind and does not have the personality to be a broadcaster etc
Needs to hang em up for good. I mean what's the point? He's probably going to come in at some ridicelous weight but claim beforehand how its different this time and how he's been preparing like a madman.
I know what you mean, I don't understand the MMA shit. It took him a year to learn that crap and he failed first attempt and here he is running back to boxing at 42.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
I love classic Toney, but this is not a man who has cared about boxing for a good while. There is little to suggest this is about more than money. He's crap at MMA so boxing in the mid 40's?
I hope James murders him and follows up QUICK. But if he doesn't then we all know what it means. Just quick cash for Burger King.
he'll be fat out of shape and a shadow of his former self. He'll fit in perfect with the heavyweights then! HAHA! only joking.
no this is pointless. I think he'll pick up an injury at some point in training and that will be it.
Toney: I'm Not Worried About Bitschkos, David Gay - Boxing News
Candid interview. Apparently he's fighting Damon Reed because everyone is scared to fight him, and forget the "Bitschko sisters and David Gay" because there is no doubt he is top dog in the Heavyweight Division.
If they're scared James, its out of concern you may eat them.
James Toney would beat David Haye. He would have trouble with the sisters.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
I say that because Haye's biggest win is Monte Barrett. Toney can spark Haye out if he is fit.
not now. I think haye would give him a one sided beating. In fact I can see that fight being on the cards now that the klits ain't gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
You're kidding me right? Finally I disagree with you. Monte aint Haye's biggest win at all, at Heavyweight, Valuev is. Toney was knocked down by a Sam Peter jab. He does not have it anymore, and there is little to no chance he ever even gets close to fit again. Haye would stop him at this stage. Toney would take a beating and the referee would stop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Let's see how Toney looks first, he has three weeks to get in shape and show us all what he has got. He's fighting a bum, but if he will just follow up and fight after then we can see. Going on recent history Toney will fight and then vanish for a year...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfingernot now. I think haye would give him a one sided beating. In fact I can see that fight being on the cards now that the klits ain't gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Toney was injured and did indeed fall from a jab. Haye hasn't proven that he can beat Sam Peter, so I am not convinced about what he can do. Haye has proven nothing, Holyfield was better against Valuev and Toney beat Holyfield. Haye is still nothing all things considered.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnYou're kidding me right? Finally I disagree with you. Monte aint Haye's biggest win at all, at Heavyweight, Valuev is. Toney was knocked down by a Sam Peter jab. He does not have it anymore, and there is little to no chance he ever even gets close to fit again. Haye would stop him at this stage. Toney would take a beating and the referee would stop it.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Toney saying he will beat Haye and The brothers grim is nothing new , blah blah blah ,
I seem to remember Toney saying he would KO Randy Couture with the first shot he landed , blah blah blah. James should hang em up in my opinion.
I say we should at least see how he looks. I am insulted about the MMA thing, but James Toney deserves to at least be observed in the boxing ring. Let's just see. He should destroy this bum.
He must be running out of this.
http://images.travelpod.com/users/ya...wad-o-cash.jpg
Saying Toney is washed up is an understatement. Prime Toney was something to behold, now Toney is only good for a few laughs. I forgot who nicknamed him J-Fat here?;D
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Understatement of the Year
... besides, he'd have to have a "drunken slurring-to-English" translator... AND he'd have half his incoherencies beeped out anyway.... too much trouble.
yeah i could see haye v toney fight happening
I dunno, after the way he impressively jumped sports and destroyed Randy Couture he must be a pretty intimidating opponent :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
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Originally Posted by Drago
Hey... maybe that's exactly what needs to happen. Haye could whale (pun fully intended) on Toney's blubbery, slurring ass... build his confidence even more... and then (FINALLY) take on a Klitscko. By now I don't care which one it is.
Where's Bilbo !?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
We must rally the troops miles !
The JFAT Alliance must stand tall !
;D
I think Toney could still beat Arreola and company, any chance he had of once beating the Klitschkos is long gone IMO.
Boxing - James Toney Uncensored
read this
brain damage?
This is just sad........seriously, the fact that Toney has the nerve to talk shizznit after his recent athletic endeavors is something I find AMAZING. Are u serious, come into a fight in shape then I might pretend to believe you James, I mean really I'm not asking much....GTFOH
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Originally Posted by gest12645
Nawww... it's a natural condition. Easy mistake to make, tho.
;)
ha ha ha Merchant would be drunk not being able to find his Flask and Attack ToneyQuote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Understatement of the Year
... besides, he'd have to have a "drunken slurring-to-English" translator... AND he'd have half his incoherencies beeped out anyway.... too much trouble.
Jesus Christ the man is delusional...Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Nawww... it's a natural condition. Easy mistake to make, tho.
;)
I like Toney but it pisses me off when he calls himself "The heavyweight champion".
Your NOT ! You've got a shit title that is a fucking joke and your skills are NOT "getting better", quite the opposite.
Indeed, the JFAT alliance must stay strong. You can't abandon the guy because he has man boobs and talks a lot more than he fights. I want to see how he looks before reaching any firm conclusions, but he is going to be a 42 year old version of James Toney and he was never a big heavyweight (you know what I mean) to begin with.Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkWhere's Bilbo !?Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
We must rally the troops miles !
The JFAT Alliance must stand tall !
;D
I think Toney could still beat Arreola and company, any chance he had of once beating the Klitschkos is long gone IMO.
The Toney that beat Peter first time out beats Haye IMO, but that's a few years ago and Toney has been away from the ring a long time. I just want to see how he looks, I don't want to build up any expectations. I wouldn't mind seeing him against someone like Tarver too in a quick follow up.
IMO Toney has never been a good HW. He beat Evander when Evander was way past it and carrying an injury to his shoulder and he won a decision over Ruiz, but he needed Steroids to get that win. He was a great fighter between the weights of 160 and 175 but even in his prime I remember Montell Griffin beating him twice, Roy Jones gave him a one sided beating and the best fight that could have been made for both men IMO in him and Hopkins has never happened. If they were to fight I think Hopkins definitely wins now. Toney just needs to get the fuck out of boxing once and for all.
The problem is I have a funny feeling David Haye may take a fight with Toney and that would be disastrous both for boxing and for Toney, If big fat slow Sam Peter can land regular on Toney, Haye will totally massacre him. I hope this fight doesn't happen but with Hayes options seemingly quite low, he showed by taking the fight with Audley that he is not afraid of taking an easy fight and that is what this would be, although I would love to see Toney sparked and I am 100% positive that is what Haye would do to him.
The man has brain damage now!
Just listen to the way he speaks.And its only going to get worse as he gets older.
Why do boxers do this to them selfs?
JFAT is back? He was never properly here to start with. He's a disgrace to boxing and I hope whichever slack-jawed backwater commissioner authorised this fight gets fired. Anyone paying for this one should be very ashamed of themselves.
If he's only got 3 weeks to get in shape, he needs to get in touch with Trainer Monkey ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by milesLet's see how Toney looks first, he has three weeks to get in shape and show us all what he has got. He's fighting a bum, but if he will just follow up and fight after then we can see. Going on recent history Toney will fight and then vanish for a year...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hornfingernot now. I think haye would give him a one sided beating. In fact I can see that fight being on the cards now that the klits ain't gonna happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
At this point, I thionk Toney is in a bad Mike Tyson stage. and will bite somebody ear off.
He so crazy, I wouldn't be surprise if he gets the two sports mixed up.
Toney by submission rd 4
I hope we get a stoppage in the 6th with Toney outclassing his opponent every round. The Greer fight was far too quick, Toney needs to bank some rounds.
4 fights this year, Toney. That's what you said and I'm going to hold you to it. Go the Foreman route, stay busy, stay in shape and keep fighting until one final crack at a belt, preferably Haye as the others are too big.
Then retire for good, forget about the sisters. A belt and a pay day is enough. You will be 43 and you haven't got the legs to follow Wlad around for 12 rounds.
Stay in shape?? He's got a lot to do to get in shape first!!Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
That's one of my key worries. I just want to see him below 230 and working hard for as long as the fight lasts. Toney has been a let down more often than not ever since Peter 2, I know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyuStay in shape?? He's got a lot to do to get in shape first!!Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I am still in the JFAT alliance.
That's jolly good. The JFAT alliance of 2011 will hopefully go from strength to strength. Let's all go to Burger King and have a Whopper burger, with fries and a coke to celebrate. JFAT alliance forever! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
JFAT alliance 4 life brother !Quote:
Originally Posted by milesThat's jolly good. The JFAT alliance of 2011 will hopefully go from strength to strength. Let's all go to Burger King and have a Whopper burger, with fries and a coke to celebrate. JFAT alliance forever! :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
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This video explains the demise of James Toney.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wen-u...eature=related
If toney struggles here he should walk away.
This bloke got blown away by Herbie Hide about 13 years ago, I remember watching it, the bloke is only a cruiser and fell almost from the first punch Herbie threw. It was a joke as far as a world heavyweight title defence is concerened.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g4WAUxUT4-g
Id be more interested in a Toney v Hide fight now come to think of it;D
For sure, if Toney struggles with this opponent then he should be set to pasture. That should be wake up call enough.