British Predictions For 2012
Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".
I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.
#1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.
#2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.
#3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.
#4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.
#5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.
Anyone think any of those are likely?
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Chris Eubanks Jnr will win a domestic title this year.
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good thread mate....
regarding Ricky Burns , if Marquez decides to give up the WBO belt then Burns becomes the full champion as he beat Katsidis.
Guerrero wont fight at 135 again and was he not the WBA interm champ??
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Amir Khan - easily wins his rematch with Peterson, refusing to get involved in a tear-up but jabbing and moving well, winning every round. Bradley stops running, but Khan makes the same mistakes and gets frustrated with constant headbutts, loses his title(s), Bradley refuses rematch leaving Khan having to move up for 2013, where they'll probably matchmake him with an 82-year-old Shane Mosley before declaring him The Real Deal again.
Nathan Cleverley - his promoters lose the plot and stop molly-coddling him, sticking him in with Bernard Hopkins, where he's mercilessly bullied for nine rounds in the US before being pulled out. Fellow Brits admit that he's lower world-class at best.
Carl Froch - loses a point decision to Bute in Canada, more questions are asked about him having had too many wars. He answers the critics with a win over Bute in the rematch, admittedly via a slightly surprising points decision. News breaks late in the year of a rematch with Kessler, spring of 2013, somewhere in mainland Europe, which Kessler wins by relatively comfortable points decision. James DeGale, who's suffered another defeat by then himself, catches Froch on the wain, stopping Froch and ending his career in his final fight infront of his home crowd.
Darren Barker - goes to Germany and does what Macklin and Murray couldn't; stopping Sturm. He then goes to Texas and exposes Julio Cesar Chavez Jr's obvious weaknesses, coming back to the UK a hero, pre-Christmas announcement that he'll face the winner of Murray/Macklin in a domestic superbout in the spring of the following year.
Kell Brook - fights a borderline world-class opponent in the States, looks like an absolute world-beater. They stick him in with Mike Jones, who he slaps around for twelve rounds without breaking sweat after a first round knockdown.
Kevin Mitchell - agrees to fight Burns, but his hectic private life leads to him taking training lightly again, Burns toys with him and wins a wide point decision. Mitchell's very honest about his camp post-fight and gets another chance, a rematch with John Murray in Manchester, which he loses in another mid-rounds stoppage Fight of the Year contender.
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good thread mate....
regarding Ricky Burns , if Marquez decides to give up the WBO belt then Burns becomes the full champion as he beat Katsidis.
Guerrero wont fight at 135 again and was he not the WBA interm champ??
Dammit, I was trying to figure out who had what through boxrec, and I thought Guerrero / Burns were both interim champs. In that case, I guess I can rule out #4!
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Amir Khan - easily wins his rematch with Peterson, refusing to get involved in a tear-up but jabbing and moving well, winning every round. Bradley stops running, but Khan makes the same mistakes and gets frustrated with constant headbutts, loses his title(s), Bradley refuses rematch leaving Khan having to move up for 2013, where they'll probably matchmake him with an 82-year-old Shane Mosley before declaring him The Real Deal again.
Nathan Cleverley - his promoters lose the plot and stop molly-coddling him, sticking him in with Bernard Hopkins, where he's mercilessly bullied for nine rounds in the US before being pulled out. Fellow Brits admit that he's lower world-class at best.
Carl Froch - loses a point decision to Bute in Canada, more questions are asked about him having had too many wars. He answers the critics with a win over Bute in the rematch, admittedly via a slightly surprising points decision. News breaks late in the year of a rematch with Kessler, spring of 2013, somewhere in mainland Europe, which Kessler wins by relatively comfortable points decision. James DeGale, who's suffered another defeat by then himself, catches Froch on the wain, stopping Froch and ending his career in his final fight infront of his home crowd.
Darren Barker - goes to Germany and does what Macklin and Murray couldn't; stopping Sturm. He then goes to Texas and exposes Julio Cesar Chavez Jr's obvious weaknesses, coming back to the UK a hero, pre-Christmas announcement that he'll face the winner of Murray/Macklin in a domestic superbout in the spring of the following year.
Kell Brook - fights a borderline world-class opponent in the States, looks like an absolute world-beater. They stick him in with Mike Jones, who he slaps around for twelve rounds without breaking sweat after a first round knockdown.
Kevin Mitchell - agrees to fight Burns, but his hectic private life leads to him taking training lightly again, Burns toys with him and wins a wide point decision. Mitchell's very honest about his camp post-fight and gets another chance, a rematch with John Murray in Manchester, which he loses in another mid-rounds stoppage Fight of the Year contender.
How horrible would it be to have to deal with Degale giving it the big one after catching Froch on the way down?:o I have to disagree with you on Cleverly he may not be a big hitter but he has great potential. He WILL improve and surprise a few people in 2012. Barker has more than enough in his arsenal to frustrate Sturm and may well stop him but I think a WIDE points decision more likely, even in Germany.
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Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".
I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.
#1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.
#2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.
#3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.
#4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.
#5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.
Anyone think any of those are likely?
Great Thread Superheavyrhun.
1. I agree if Cleverly can continue to improve he will handle Shumenov and win after his easier home fight in Feb.
2. If Khan gets a chance he beats Peterson in a rematch but I will still be surprised to see Bradley come and face him.I am so underwhelmed by Bradley that it would not surprise me if someone else exposes him before Khan has the chance.
3.Froch was light against Ward and clearly struggled but I do not think he can be a great LHW he will have a couple more fights at SMW and Bute seems to be where the money is.Unfortunately Bute may well knock him out. I hope not, but Carl has taken a lot of punishment and granite chins don't last forever. Either way I think the British SMW future champ is Groves he can adapt and will start to ramp up the opposition late 2012.
4.Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
5. Your right how did Fury make the top 5? ;D The sooner someone sparks him out the better. A fit Chisora beats him on points and Haye would just muller him, so whatever the formbook says I wouldn't personally rate him above Del Boy or Deron even if they are beaten by the Klits, and that is not a formality. Chisora on Points and Haye similarly would provide a fantastic all British 2013 unification. ;D ( there really should be a zzz dreaming smiley)
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Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".
I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.
#1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.
#2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.
#3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.
#4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.
#5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.
Anyone think any of those are likely?
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Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
No he is not.
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Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".
I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.
#1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.
#2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.
#3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.
#4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.
#5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.
Anyone think any of those are likely?
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Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
No he is not.
Ricky Burns is the most improved British fighter , he uses his strength and work rate very well.
He is a very good fighter , but to label him GREAT , well im sorry but he is not .
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Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".
I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.
#1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.
#2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.
#3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.
#4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.
#5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.
Anyone think any of those are likely?
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Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
No he is not.
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Macklin will have a good showing against Sergio Martinez even in loss. He'll gain fans and a match between Macklin and Andy Lee in Ireland will be big in the Fall.
In the best shape of his life, Barker will fight and dominate Zbik.
Kell Brook will continue to accumulate good wins over good opponents, but not have the break-out year some are hoping.
If he's smart, Tyson Fury will take a step backward in opposition after having more difficulty than expected in his last two fights.
Derek Chisora will go out on his shield against Wladimir.
George Groves will gain some experience fighting decent foes in Britain and build a bigger fan base. Meanwhile, Degale coasts in 2012.
Khan doesn't get the rematch in his next fight, but wins once again. Has a rebuilding year.
Cleverly will unify with Shumenov and win. This is Britain's biggest boxing achievement of the year.
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Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".
I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.
#1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.
#2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.
#3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.
#4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.
#5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.
Anyone think any of those are likely?
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Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
No he is not.
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What x10 ?
Ricky Burns is a great fighter or No he is not ?
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ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao
Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.
Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
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Well, the turkey is digested, the beer has been cracked open, and it's time to look forward to a new year of boxing, unless you're one of the crazy Belgians who go to the annual Christmas Day boxing "extravaganza".
I was thinking about how things will change in 2012, and I've come up with five predictions regarding Britain's best and brightest.
#1 - Nathan Cleverly, now Britain's sole remaining holder of a world title belt sanctioned by one of the big four will have a comfortable defence in February. I think he'll have a summer unification with Beibut Shumenov, probably the most beatable of the other world champions, and probably one or two more fights against reasonable competition before closing out 2012 undefeated, with talks ongoing about an even bigger unification in 2013.
#2 - Amir Khan. Khan's team go back to the drawing board and come up with a serious plan, and win the rematch against Peterson. Splits start to open between Khan and Roach. Maybe a change of trainer. Easy defence in the summer, then Khan gets beat in the Autumn by Bradley, or goes up to welterweight and gets beaten there.
#3 - Carl Froch. I'm torn about Froch, as a part of me thinks he'll go to LH. However, he doesn't struggle with the weight so I reckon he continues to fight at SMW. Give him a few months to rest then a homecoming fight in Nottingham Forest's football stadium in May against a decent but beatable fighter. Then another away fight in September/October against Kessler or Stieglitz depending on who wins there. I don't think he'll retire, he's still got plenty to prove.
#4 - Ricky Burns. Only not a world title holder until he beats Guerrero and turns the interim into a full belt. And I do think he'll do that. He'll win his March fight against someone bordering on the world scene, before a summer fight against Kevin Mitchell. I think he'll just about scrape past Mitchell before an October/November fight against Guerrero, which he will win.
#5 - Tyson Fury - How on earth did he make the top 5? Well, I reckon he will finish the year as the top British heavyweight. Haye and Chisora will find themselves taken apart by a Klitchsko each, and this will leave Mick to manage Fury well through a few more fighters without much pop, before he gets a shot at Helenius. Thus, Fury talks the big talk in the lead up to a big fight in 2013 where he is liable to get sparked.
Anyone think any of those are likely?
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Ricky Burns is a great fighter and will confirm this in 2012. Against whom? is anyone's guess.
No he is not.
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What x10 ?
Ricky Burns is a great fighter or No he is not ?
Ricky Burns would twat Chuck Norris.
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ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao
Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.
Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
Burns has never made any claims to greatness and has fought everyone put in front of him.
I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
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ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao
Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.
Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
Burns has never made any claims to greatness
and has fought everyone put in front of him.
I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
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ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao
Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.
Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
Burns has never made any claims to greatness
and has fought everyone put in front of him.
I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
How was Burns a coward when he was strugglying to make weight and then he moved up to fight Katsidis who is a known powerpuncher and established at the weight. Not a lot of people gave Burns a chance, myself included because the fight was a risk which has paid off for Burns.
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I am backing Cleverly to stay undefeated, but I would like to see him in with a top rated fighter by the summer, he needs to be in deep water to show how good he really is. He also needs to work on his defence, however hes a great prospect and I have faith hes going to keep on improving.
Amir Khan needs to get a rematch asap with Peterson and put on a strong performance. I believe he is capable of beating Peterson if he doesnt get stupid, he needs to box clever and stop Peterson having so much success on the inside. Khans better than that, he needs to beat him and move on. I would love a Kell Brook showdown for a debut at 147, but that is unlikely. He does need a top ranked 147 to see how he adjusts to moving up, Khan will give any fighter problems with his speed but he needs to be more focused in what he is doing. He is a great talent though, I believe he will bounce back from the loss, because his confidence doesnt look shattered from the peterson loss because he does truely believe he was robbed, he needs to prove that it was a robbery and get those belts back.
Froch is getting older and I believe he needs to just keep fighting the best at 168 and go straight for Bute. It will no doubt be a hard fight for Froch but he is capable of getting Bute into a war and unlike Ward I think Froch will be able to land more leather on him. Bute will give Froch problems because he is good, but hes not been in with a fighter as good as Froch and I think this will test him. Both of at the top of the game and the best need to fight the best, I hope Froch wins this and tries to rematch Kessler too. Kessler might have another belt by then and if Froch can beat Bute than you never know a rematch one day with Ward down the line with all the belts? It will take a lot of effort from Froch, but I would love it if he could do this. Bute and Kessler needs to be Frochs top priority in terms of his next fights.
I would love to see Burns fight Mitchell in the summer. I think that would be a cracking UK domestic showdown that could go either way. For both fighters it would push them to move onto America and fight the best in the weight class. Although both would be underdogs against any of the top ranked fighters I believe now is their time to push for these fights and show what they have got. I like both of them and wish them both luck, I really do hope they meet each other though.
Fury has a lot of work to do on his defence, but I do believe that he can do something at the weight. Hes young and still inexperienced and for a heavyweight he still has a lot of time to work on his weaknesses. He has shown hes got heart though from coming off the matt to win fights before and he has power as shown in his fights. He can also go 12 hard rounds as proved against Chisora and that was a great win for him. I think he needs to move to European level fighters and see where he stands. Hes a talent whos going the right way IMO. I think Chisora is proving that hes sorted himself and I wouldnt mind seeing them rematch late 2012. Chisora will lose against vitali but hopefully he will give a good account of himself and win his next fight to set up a rematch with Fury late 2012, we will see.
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ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao
Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.
Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
Burns has never made any claims to greatness
and has fought everyone put in front of him.
I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
How was Burns a coward when he was strugglying to make weight and then he moved up to fight Katsidis who is a known powerpuncher and established at the weight. Not a lot of people gave Burns a chance, myself included because the fight was a risk which has paid off for Burns.
Burns was suppose to face Broner before he pulled out of there fight. But requested and was granted the opportunity to make an optional defense. Because everybody knows he just needed to fight Nicky Cook. After the Cook charade he's forced to face his mandatory. Which is Broner. Everything is set. The date and venue are set. HBO is ready. Broner is ready. Than just weeks from the fight Burns pulls out to take a fight with Katsidis. A fighter who not only had lost 2 of his last 3. But was dominated in those 2 losses. How is that not a coward move?
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ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao
Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.
Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
Burns has never made any claims to greatness
and has fought everyone put in front of him.
I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
How was Burns a coward when he was strugglying to make weight and then he moved up to fight Katsidis who is a known powerpuncher and established at the weight. Not a lot of people gave Burns a chance, myself included because the fight was a risk which has paid off for Burns.
Burns was suppose to face Broner before he pulled out of there fight. But requested and was granted the opportunity to make an optional defense. Because everybody knows he just needed to fight Nicky Cook. After the Cook charade he's forced to face his mandatory. Which is Broner. Everything is set. The date and venue are set. HBO is ready. Broner is ready. Than just weeks from the fight Burns pulls out to take a fight with Katsidis. A fighter who not only had lost 2 of his last 3. But was dominated in those 2 losses. How is that not a coward move?
Your not Ricky Burns though and he said he couldn't peform as well at 130 and yeah taking on Broner would have been a tougher fight and if Burns would have lost which was likely he would not be in the position he is now. I don't see it as cowardly I saw that move as smart...he could do better at 135 because he struggled making weight and as I said before Katsidis was expected to roll over Burns because Katsidis was suppose to be better than Burns. Katsidis lost to Marquez who just beat Manny IMO and Guerrero who's the man to beat at 135, no shame in that. Katsidis has shown us Brits what he is capable in the past e.g. Mitchell and Earl and any British fan knows he is a powerful fighter for Burns and a true step up in class. That win is leading on for Burns to become a 2 weight world Champion ( I know his record isn't strong) however he's still nearly a two weight champion.
So in my eyes that wasn't a cowardly move it was a tactical risk that is going to pay off because Burns will get more pay days now, if he fought Broner maybe he would not get the opportunity he's got now. Now that's a smart move IMO. Put yourself in Burns' shoes if you were him and had his ability you would have done the same...why? Because it was the most sensible move as he has proven.
First of all I don't remember Burns ever complaining he had trouble making weight. But so be it. If that was the case than why agree to the fight in the first place (The date and venue were set. HBO had announced the fight. So there was no doubt he agreed to the fight)? He even said it himself he was gonna fight his mandatory next after beating Cook.
When the fight was first announced everybody knew Broner was gonna fight one more time before facing Burns. I don't think it's a coincidence that Burns all of a sudden developed a problem making weight after watching Adrien Broner destroy Jason Litzau in less than a round
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ricky burns is nowhere near a great fightet. Lmfao
Kevin Mitchell will win a title as long as ricky bums grows a pair to fight him.
Ricky.burns is just a solid B level guy.
Burns has never made any claims to greatness
and has fought everyone put in front of him.
I do not believe his bravery can be questioned. Mitchell is a great fighter but his failure to capitalise on his win over Murray is not Burns fault, he needs to keep to his probation conditions.
Burns has only just moved into Mitchell's Weight class so he has actually shown more balls by moving up in weight.
Burns proved his credentials against Martinez and consolidated his not inconsiderable cojones by choosing to fight Katsidis and then beating him.
Burns may not be A great, but he is a great fighter.
He displayed pure cowardice when he coward out of the Adrian Broner fight
How was Burns a coward when he was strugglying to make weight and then he moved up to fight Katsidis who is a known powerpuncher and established at the weight. Not a lot of people gave Burns a chance, myself included because the fight was a risk which has paid off for Burns.
Burns was suppose to face Broner before he pulled out of there fight. But requested and was granted the opportunity to make an optional defense. Because everybody knows he just needed to fight Nicky Cook. After the Cook charade he's forced to face his mandatory. Which is Broner. Everything is set. The date and venue are set. HBO is ready. Broner is ready. Than just weeks from the fight Burns pulls out to take a fight with Katsidis. A fighter who not only had lost 2 of his last 3. But was dominated in those 2 losses. How is that not a coward move?
Your not Ricky Burns though and he said he couldn't peform as well at 130 and yeah taking on Broner would have been a tougher fight and if Burns would have lost which was likely he would not be in the position he is now. I don't see it as cowardly I saw that move as smart...he could do better at 135 because he struggled making weight and as I said before Katsidis was expected to roll over Burns because Katsidis was suppose to be better than Burns. Katsidis lost to Marquez who just beat Manny IMO and Guerrero who's the man to beat at 135, no shame in that. Katsidis has shown us Brits what he is capable in the past e.g. Mitchell and Earl and any British fan knows he is a powerful fighter for Burns and a true step up in class. That win is leading on for Burns to become a 2 weight world Champion ( I know his record isn't strong) however he's still nearly a two weight champion.
So in my eyes that wasn't a cowardly move it was a tactical risk that is going to pay off because Burns will get more pay days now, if he fought Broner maybe he would not get the opportunity he's got now. Now that's a smart move IMO. Put yourself in Burns' shoes if you were him and had his ability you would have done the same...why? Because it was the most sensible move as he has proven.
First of all I don't remember Burns ever complaining he had trouble making weight. But so be it. If that was the case than why agree to the fight in the first place (The date and venue were set. HBO had announced the fight. So there was no doubt he agreed to the fight)? He even said it himself he was gonna fight his mandatory next after beating Cook.
When the fight was first announced everybody knew Broner was gonna fight one more time before facing Burns. I don't think it's a coincidence that Burns all of a sudden developed a problem making weight after watching Adrien Broner destroy Jason Litzau in less than a round
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/box...l-Katsidis.htm
Look I'm not just making it up he did say that he had trouble making weight for his last couple of fights and as I said before why risk giving such a good fighter like Broner an advantage over himself. Burns needs to be as tactical as possible with his career because one major step back could be his last pay day. Broner more than likely would have knocked him out, however Burns did know that and did the most sensible option in move up in weight. But he did this due to him not feeling comfortable at the weight which is a legitimate excuse when your fight a p4p future prospect like Broner.
However, I don't see how you can call him a coward because making your 135 debut against a proven puncher at the weight and many people expected Katsidis to knock Burns out. It was a risky fight for Burns who had never been in with anybody on Katsidis level and look what he did, he boxed really well and beat Katsidis. How is that cowardly? It was by far the best decision that Burns made in his career and if i don't know how you can't see that from his point of view.
Than it goes back to the question I been asking. Why accept the fight in the first place? Why wait till after Broner-Litzau to pull out? Keep in mind I'm not the only one who feels Burns ducked Broner. Perception is everything in Boxing. It's not about what it is. It's about what it looks like.
And the timing of his decisions made him look real bad
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Ricky burns did run from broner and the weight was more like a built-in excuse.
It's no coincidence that he had a change of heart shortly after seeing litzau get destroyed. Bums was shaken and found a way out.
Burns is on that john molina level. Guys like hank lundy would hurt him severely.
