Just wondering if there has been any talk of a fight between the two? If so when will it happen?
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Just wondering if there has been any talk of a fight between the two? If so when will it happen?
haye is too chicken to fight chisora.
he knows chisora will be out to kill him at any cost.
Yes Chisora has threatened to give Haye a Chinese burn, but Haye would easily knock him out without the inconvenience of a bottle in the hand and the brutal padding of a boxing glove. Derek's cry of " he safety glassed me" will not go unavenged.
There is a BBBC hearing for Chisora, to face as for Haye he has no licence will Chisora be banned and
will Haye get his licence back.I am not to sure what the outcome of the hearing will be,and the
punishment may be server. Remember they will be under a lot of pressure to do so,what ever
happens we wait with baited breath.!
even if they both get let off for the brawl haye wouldnt take the fight unless they give him £20 million and he'll run the whole night.
Exactly thisQuote:
Originally Posted by NUCLEAR BULL
Haye is a pussy and made his intentions clear before the brawl kicked off. He did not want to fight Chisora. "oh you've lost 3 times in a row..you've lost 3 times"
I would love to see that fight but Haye wants to talk himself into a Vitali fight and that fight only for megabucks. He couldn't give a shit about the belt..he put in an "Audley" like performance against Wlad with no heart. That really pissed me off as I was expecting him to deliver with all that trash talk.
Haye's gotta watch that toe, though. Could act up on him again.
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the klits are far less dangerous than chisora... they'll let him can stay on the outside and get jabbed all night for millions of dollars. no one gets hurt.
chisora will hunt haye all night and still try to ko him after the fight.
How big would the fight be in Europe? I know I want to see it. I want to see If these two are for real. Plus the winner would be top dog in the HW division. On the other hand. In the 24 rounds Haye and Chisora vs the Kilt brother maybe won five rounds together. The HW division is so bad right now that it needs this fight. The winner should face the brother they did not lose to. There is no other fight out there that can draw the kind of money Haye vs Chisora could.
The fight will not happen as Haye is only interested in a big money fight with Klit and he would not give Chisora the satisfaction of earning money and fame off his name.
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Originally Posted by Master
I just find this so perplexing... Is Haye really that kind of a name in the Uk, and if so for fucks sake why? Chisora should instantly have as much name recognition as Gaye does after last weekend surely? David is in no place to dictate anything or lambast anyone for their previous fights. The norm for a guy in his position would be to take just about any opponent to get some rounds in, but here he is questioning the merits of someone who just made an infintely better account of themself than he did on the world stage.
Precisely. When your last fight was an embarassment to yourself, and your effort is being questioned... the last thing you should do is open your mouth about anything. You should be dying to get back into the ring and atone by letting your fists do the talking. Any trash coming from Haye at this point is indefensible.
Haye is a punk and happy being a C-list celebrity in the uk.
In short it won't happen.
Haye's credibility is shot, he needs to man up and take the fight but being the attention money grabbing whore he is he will try to get a title shot.
Watch out for hayes next appearance, celebrity big brother.
Even though del boy is a thug with no class, he is the only heavyweight I will pay to watch.
Whatever credibility Haye had went quite quickly after the Wlad fight. He seems to think that boxing still needs him.
I thought the fight would be a big deal in England. Maybe not.
I would like it to happen but it won't. Haye only wants one more fight and that's against Vitali for big money.
Agreed it would be a good fight but Hayes ego will stop the fight from happening, he think Chisora is beneath him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
This is probably true which is daft, if he does want to come back i think right now chisora would be a great fight for hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterAgreed it would be a good fight but Hayes ego will stop the fight from happening, he think Chisora is beneath him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manos de Piedra
Chis is a big name now coming off 2 very good performances against 2 big names
Its a perfect time for haye to fight someone he would more than likely dominate, and chis looks like he has a very good chin, but i think his punch resisance has been flattered a bit recently and i think haye would stop him relatively early which would be a step back to gaining the kind of reputation he had before wlad
Like i say, if haye wants a way back this fight would be perfect, its a great opportunity, and right now it would be worth a bob or two
This fight would be massive, MASSIVE, in the UK.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrbig1
However Haye would not take the risk at fighting del boy.
It might happen if the money is right for haye and he is guaranteed a title shot for the winner.
But the chances of that happening are pretty low.
From Hayes pov why take the fight if he can get a title shot instead.
Go ahead and cue up about 4 months of "David Haye is still retired" talk.
The fight will happen and is seemingly a competitive matchup, but you must realize that Chisora is a bit too young and fresh to be a David Haye opponent.
funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
but you pick up on a good point, it is "seemingly" a competative matchup, so people around boxing (despite chisora losing his last 3 competative fights), due to his displays against vitali and helenius, will think chisora is at that kind of level
when in reality he isnt and if he doesnt stop him, haye should really win every round
I don't have much faith in David Haye's chin. It's the reason he ran around so much against Wlad. Derek Chisora, if nothing else, has a strong chin, and is persistent. If Del Boy lasts until the later rounds, he might knock Haye out. Other than the hoopla, that's what makes the fight interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
but you pick up on a good point, it is "seemingly" a competative matchup, so people around boxing (despite chisora losing his last 3 competative fights), due to his displays against vitali and helenius, will think chisora is at that kind of level
when in reality he isnt and if he doesnt stop him, haye should really win every round
see i think that is why its a no lose situation for haye, i dont think chis has the power to hurt him even if hayes chin is suspectQuote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratI don't have much faith in David Haye's chin. It's the reason he ran around so much against Wlad. Derek Chisora, if nothing else, has a strong chin, and is persistent. If Del Boy lasts until the later rounds, he might knock Haye out. Other than the hoopla, that's what makes the fight interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44funnyQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
but you pick up on a good point, it is "seemingly" a competative matchup, so people around boxing (despite chisora losing his last 3 competative fights), due to his displays against vitali and helenius, will think chisora is at that kind of level
when in reality he isnt and if he doesnt stop him, haye should really win every round
ive seen a lot of chisoras fights and even at times against journeymen who do get knocked over he hasnt really made a dent
his best KO wins are against sam sexton, who really struggles with stamina after a few rounds
i think those KOs were more to do with sam running out of steam that dereks power
Yes agreed I think Chisora will be too dangerous for Haye, he has hit him already so Chisora is extra motivated to take the grin off Haye’s face and I think Chisora would try and bulldozer Haye.
Is Haye vs. Chisora going to happen?
Does Haye have a set of balls?
Will Haye be willing to fight an agressive man without his bottle and tripod?
Does Haye have any manly bits inside of him?
The answer to all of the questions above. No. Not a fucking chance in hell.
No doubt erics44, Haye SHOULD win every round if he fights Chisora. Haye is without a doubt the better athlete and I would say more skilled of the two.......HOWEVER Chisora has the heart, determination, and is just an outright nutcase. Chisora is already in Haye's head which is why Haye "glassed" Dereck to begin with. To me, Haye is a mentally weak fighter...Wladimir is the youngest heavyweight Haye has ever fought....Chisora has looked good in his past 2 fights and has fought all comers. Can Chisora keep his spirits up having lost 3 in a row? Can he maintain focus and not go apeshit crazy? I don't know....but I know Haye doesn't have the "intestinal fortitude" of Chisora.
In all honesty for British boxing this fight would be epic....get Price vs Fury and Chisora vs Haye, then have the winners face off....HUGE! But I dare say I'm dreadfully tired of the antics of the British fighters of late...it's tacky to act out like hood rats. Just let your boxing be the show......oh wait, THAT'S why you act out, because your boxing sucks and you'd like for people not to notice.....well carry on I guess
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Originally Posted by El Kabong
So two British fighters take each Klitchko brother 12 rounds, instead of getting ko'd like countless Americans, and despite this and the last good heavyweight being the British fighter Lennox Lewis, it's the Brits who can't fight? Oh and punching someone with a safety glass bottle in your hand is not glassing someone.
Haye ran like a little punk and when he wasn't running HAYE was the one jumping into clinches and holding or falling down to the ground like Nani...as for the other fight, Vitali beat Chisora with 1 arm....you feel better now???Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Lennox Lewis had loads of talent, no one will deny it, he also carried himself like a gentleman and let his skill INSIDE the ring speak for his career.....Haye and Chisora??? Not so much...Haye is remembered for getting beaten by his shadow whilst shadow boxing and Chisora is remembered for spitting at Wlad, slapping Vitali, and getting smacked with a bottle at the post fight press conference.
As for the "glassing" comment, Chisora said that Haye had "glassed" him...I just used his words to describe what happened to him.
Chisora and Haye are only being talked about because they are fucking morons....it's not like they are any great shakes as boxers. Yeah they lasted the distance with both brothers....how many rounds did they win 4 out of 24 total? Give me a damn break. Chisora and Haye ARE on the same level IMO and they will have a good match should they decide to fight each other, but I've had enough with the histrionics of British heavyweights, from Audley "2012 Is My Year" Harrison all the way up to these punks....I've had it...show me as a fan what you can do in the ring, I've heard enough shit talking, I want to see some class (if they know what that is) in the ring.
Haye said today that he won't fight a guy who has lost his last three fights...So why the fuck does he fight people on the level of Fraudley and Ruiz ?
Haye fought monte barret, a washed up john ruiz who'd lost something like 4 out of his last 5 fights.....he then had that awful joke of a fight with audley.......stunk the place out in his embarracing Wlad toe gate.....yet he syas he wont fight Del Boy...you know why? because he knows it wont be a easy night
Haye = big talk and very little fight
Really I have no respect for Chisora. First he slaps Vitali. Then he spits in Wlad face. He was the one who when after Haye. Then he cries like a bitch saying he glass me. Haye doesn't need Chisora, But Chisora damn sure needs Haye.
you are right haye is much better athleteQuote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
but like most whos judgement is clouded by their hate for haye you are unrealistic about how he would fair in these fights because of 1 fight haye was involved in
haye has heart
like it or not haye chisora would be a one sided beating and chisora would need to show a better chin than he has in any fight before to last the distance
down the line haye price would be a good fight
but unfortunately we will probably never see that fight
At least Chisora came to fight. Haye isn't on Chisora's level. Chisora didn't dodge Vitali for three years, and then come to be a lame ass. Come on, dude. You can't be that stupid.Quote:
Originally Posted by El KabongHaye ran like a little punk and when he wasn't running HAYE was the one jumping into clinches and holding or falling down to the ground like Nani...as for the other fight, Vitali beat Chisora with 1 arm....you feel better now???Quote:
Originally Posted by Greenbeanz
Lennox Lewis had loads of talent, no one will deny it, he also carried himself like a gentleman and let his skill INSIDE the ring speak for his career.....Haye and Chisora??? Not so much...Haye is remembered for getting beaten by his shadow whilst shadow boxing and Chisora is remembered for spitting at Wlad, slapping Vitali, and getting smacked with a bottle at the post fight press conference.
As for the "glassing" comment, Chisora said that Haye had "glassed" him...I just used his words to describe what happened to him.
Chisora and Haye are only being talked about because they are fucking morons....it's not like they are any great shakes as boxers. Yeah they lasted the distance with both brothers....how many rounds did they win 4 out of 24 total? Give me a damn break. Chisora and Haye ARE on the same level IMO and they will have a good match should they decide to fight each other, but I've had enough with the histrionics of British heavyweights, from Audley "2012 Is My Year" Harrison all the way up to these punks....I've had it...show me as a fan what you can do in the ring, I've heard enough shit talking, I want to see some class (if they know what that is) in the ring.
I'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.
unfortunately man you are another who is clouded by your hate for hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacI'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.
i dislike boxers but i dont let these feelings get in the way of my judgement of their skills
What other side is there than what he's shown us? The side where he looks good against sub-par opponents? Don't give me that bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44unfortunately man you are another who is clouded by your hate for hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacI'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.
i dislike boxers but i dont let these feelings get in the way of my judgement of their skills
was he not the unified cruiser champ? did he not win the title away from home? was he not hw champ? did he not win the title away from home?Quote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacWhat other side is there than what he's shown us? The side where he looks good against sub-par opponents? Don't give me that bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44unfortunately man you are another who is clouded by your hate for hayeQuote:
Originally Posted by Slim the BoxingManiacI'm sorry. What David Haye do you know? Because we're talking about a different fella, I suppose. Because David Haye's only notable opponent was Wladmir Klitschko. And boy, didn't he show heart?Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44
If bitching about your toe shows heart, I don't even know the sport of boxing anymore.
i dislike boxers but i dont let these feelings get in the way of my judgement of their skills
was he not willing to fight wlad in wlads boxing home? did he not give up all the advantages in the fight?
he has heart, i can see why you hate him, but be realistic
Fortunately all the Haye accomplishments pale into insignificance by his Audley farce and Wlad toegate performance.
I can understand how the wlad performance and the toe thing can make people think the way they do, but lets put that in perspective, how did wlad do in his first world championship fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
How long was it before wlad fought away from home in a world championship fight?
The audley fight was a farce, the worst i have ever seen in boxing, i knew it would happen too, as did the majority of boxing fans. BUT david haye made more money out of that fight than he would have in any other fight barring the klits in germany, do you reall blame haye for that?
It sums up his heavyweight project, make a lot of money with the minimum number of fights. Cannot blame him for that but cannot give him any credit for it either.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44I can understand how the wlad performance and the toe thing can make people think the way they do, but lets put that in perspective, how did wlad do in his first world championship fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
How long was it before wlad fought away from home in a world championship fight?
The audley fight was a farce, the worst i have ever seen in boxing, i knew it would happen too, as did the majority of boxing fans. BUT david haye made more money out of that fight than he would have in any other fight barring the klits in germany, do you reall blame haye for that?
Well you have to give him some credit, he won the hw title in his second or third hw fight
And i dont know if there are many fighters would turn down 10 million to fight audley instead of maximum 1 million to fight someone like areola ( first name that came to mind as a major contender of the time)
And does it really sum up hayes hw career or does it sum up the hw division? Look who wlad is fighting this weekend