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Broner said he's willing to fight at 140 for a big fight. HELL, he might not have a choice because he came in his last fight weighting more the Floyd did for his light middle fight against Cotto. Lol. Anyways, Mattysee, Rois, Guzman, Peterson or Holt would be all good fights for Broner.
What you think?
I wouldn't mind seeing Walter M. punch holes through the spoon fed slacker, and I think he would.
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I was more thinking LucasQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Dear God I hope so :cool: , that's the one. I don't think Broner is going to take a 'huge' risk anytime soon. But I'd pay to see that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ant LiveI was more thinking LucasQuote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
As a fan of his potential/style and not his dufus persona, I'd like to see him stop at 135 as its one of the prestigious 8. Trouble is 135 is a little anaemic. Mitchell and Burns are busy and Marquez is not going to melt down. In a perfect world Oscar makes the Demarco fight taking a page out of the Bob Arum in house guide book. I do not see a Gamboa fight any time soon. It makes a shit load of money further down the road when those other two guys have left boxing. Who knows, it could happen at welter.
At 140 I'd like to see him kick the shit out of Rios as an entrance.
Marquez is obsessed with Manny with one foot starting to enter the door out.
Bradley will stay put at 147 I think.
He could also break in with Matthysse or Maidana.
He'd probably get ridiculed if he fought Morales or Corley.
Firstly Broner will be manoeuvred into a belt at 135. I too would love to see him fight Rios at 140. I know a lot of people are down on him becasue he's a tit but name two guys at world alphabet level with more potential than he has. Name one guy. So regardless of the fact that he's a tit I'm right behind him. I'd like to see Broner-Khan too. If Broner has a shit chin Khan would at least wobble him at some point before he got sparked.
I think all roads lead to Broner-Rios, would be a good fight IMO.
Rios for sure. Danny Garcia too. (I think Broner handles both of them pretty cleanly.) And I wouldn't mind seeing him against Kahn at all, though there's no way that's happening.
Matthyse is obviously the biggest risk there (I think, aside from Marquez, he's pretty much the consensus best guy at 140 now). Not enough of a name to qualify as a "big" fight that forces Broner to move up though, unfortunately. Really, he's probably using code language for Marquez -- that's the biggest name there by far.
Agree with Inuit that I'd really like to see him against DeMarco first at 135. They'll need to find an opponent for his December date in the meantime though, which I can't imagine will be DeMarco, given that he's fighting on the Ward/Dawson undercard in September.
(Also on the same page with Inuit and Kirkland Laing in terms of really enjoying watching Broner despite his jack-assedness; I have the same regrettable problem with Floyd. Excellence and virtuosity go a long way.)
Agreed with shza's post completely. Rios or Garcia are probably the most likely fights to happen if he does go right to 140, although MAttyhse would clearly stand a better chance to win than either of those two.
I know this is a longshot, but Joan Guzman is still around and made 140 a few weeks ago. That would be a hell of a matchup, just not sure whether HBO or any major network would want to gamble on that even if Guzman accepted peanuts for it, which he'd have to. In my mind Guzman would have a great shot to win that assuming he's still got it, that guy has been the biggest waste of talent in recent years.
I would love to see Marquez - Broner at 140, I think if it happened within this year or maybe next Marquez would beat him, any later and Marquez is getting on a bit and Broner would be getting better. I think Marquez out of any fighter at 140 would have the best chance of beating him, he's just more skilled than Broner as of this momment in time. Would be a great fight though. Id love Marquez to beat Broner!!!
Unless his ego gets in the way, Broner's team will start him cautiously at 140. Like this.
Demarcus Corley
Jessie Vargas
Mike Alvarado
He is the money marker and will be protected until they're sure. It would be stupid to throw him in with the big dogs right away.
i'd like to see broner fight mayweather sr.
i'd put money on the old man.
I would be quite happy if they matched him with Alvarado for a first fight at 140. Not the best fight for him at 140 but for an initial dip into the weight, that's a great match up.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
I still think he'll probably fight a bit at 135 before moving up anyway though.
Agreed. You would think he would at least want to grab one of those trinkets at 135 just for historical purposes. Agree on Alvarado also as a good dip in the pool.Quote:
Originally Posted by shzaI would be quite happy if they matched him with Alvarado for a first fight at 140. Not the best fight for him at 140 but for an initial dip into the weight, that's a great match up.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
I still think he'll probably fight a bit at 135 before moving up anyway though.
Its all assuming he actually 'makes' weight. I just don't see him stopping at 135 and he's already shown that trinkets and titles are meaningless by just dumping in on the scale. He and Rios remind me alot of each other only way they meet is at 140+. With training approach and attitude they almost deserve each other.
Right now I think its extremely premature to be crowning him the next great thing, especially as hes in new territory. Everyone breathe 1 2 3..I saw a Ponce Deleon touch him enough to deserve a nod and his nerve has yet to really be tested and for that matter his chin tapped. He needs to fight a live mutual body. If he actually trains and meets a solid 135 DeMarco would be a fun fun fight. Until hes proven he can beat that class I pick DeMarco..as well as Marquez in the short term via school lessons at 135-140. Alvarado has a frontal one dimensional and inviting style that would suit Broner well but is at least fresh, undefeated and equal weight.
I still dodnt understand how he got annointed the next great thing...I to saw ponce beating him. I understand hbo catering to the big names but hell broner ain't a name yet and I'm pretty sure if you asked non boxing fans in his hometown they wouldn't know who the fuck he is. Then again the next great thing often doesn't work out, hell I remember espn or hbo telling me tha gamboa will be a megastar in a year, two years ago. His attitude or ego is going to get him, marquez beats him every day of the week, would love to see lucas get a shot at him. Boxing is fucked up lucas always comes to fight , professional yet you don't see him get catered to by hbo/showtime instead you see him get the shaft twice in hometown decisions. Before someone says broner is good for boxing and ill be watchin him to see him beat as many people will, not if there is another fight to watch on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
Amir Khan would have a nice time with him at 140lb and would indicate to us how Khan would fair against Floyd in Amir’s mind anyway.
I hear all that you're saying but you've got to recognize why Adrian Broner, and not Lucas Matthyse, is the guy that HBO hypes. Big personality sells. And guys that are very fast, otherworldly athletic, and can pop are always the ones who are picked out as stars (Gamboa fits that bill too). Mattyse only has one of those characteristics; Broner has all three. Don't get me wrong, I really like Matthyse (and think he deserves to be undefeated) -- he's just not a mass market product like Broner clearly is, and is not as naturally gifted.Quote:
Originally Posted by arminI still dodnt understand how he got annointed the next great thing...I to saw ponce beating him. I understand hbo catering to the big names but hell broner ain't a name yet and I'm pretty sure if you asked non boxing fans in his hometown they wouldn't know who the fuck he is. Then again the next great thing often doesn't work out, hell I remember espn or hbo telling me tha gamboa will be a megastar in a year, two years ago. His attitude or ego is going to get him, marquez beats him every day of the week, would love to see lucas get a shot at him. Boxing is fucked up lucas always comes to fight , professional yet you don't see him get catered to by hbo/showtime instead you see him get the shaft twice in hometown decisions. Before someone says broner is good for boxing and ill be watchin him to see him beat as many people will, not if there is another fight to watch on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli
There's no way GBP wants that fight for Kahn. The one guaranteed advantage for Kahn is usually his speed; Broner is faster than Kahn (not to mention much better defensively).Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
And there's no way Kahn ever gets (or deserves to get) a Floyd fight. I'm sure even he's ramped down his expectations at this point.