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He's a bit racist and uneducated but he speaks the truth on steroids and the changing culture of boxing.
Zou Shimming main eventing a card with his 6 round exhibition was a disgrace to anyone who ever stepped in the ring especially the people who gave their lives in the ring, I was truly sickened.
Also I've noticed this whole amatuer hugging movement but guys like Erroll Spence who grew up down the street from me give it one shot than hop out to the pro game where it's about knocking the other guy out not pointing them. Where HBO will drag boxing will pretty much make it UFC Angel sees it to.
I feel what Angel's is saying to an extent. There are prospects who are light years better than Shiming yet starving to get on a card but this chinese dude happened to be at the right place at the right time and he's being treated like a fuckin royalty. Him being put on main event with a 500k purse is just unheard of and it's mind boggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
On the flipside though, this is business and Zou is boosting up the ratings. In his last fight, he drew close to 300 million viewers in China so imagine if he keeps winning. That's some crazy fuckin number right there. So in a business sense, he does deserve that kind of money..
Angel is entertaining, really cant wait for this fight!!
How can anyone be a bit racist? They either are or they are not. :)
I don't know Onetime seems a bit racist but then probably some of his best friends are white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
its not unheard of. Leonard got paid a huge amount for his 1st pro fightQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI feel what Angel's is saying to an extent. There are prospects who are light years better than Shiming yet starving to get on a card but this chinese dude happened to be at the right place at the right time and he's being treated like a fuckin royalty. Him being put on main event with a 500k purse is just unheard of and it's mind boggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
On the flipside though, this is business and Zou is boosting up the ratings. In his last fight, he drew close to 300 million viewers in China so imagine if he keeps winning. That's some crazy fuckin number right there. So in a business sense, he does deserve that kind of money..
how is this anything like UFC????Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
No, Angel is racist but he doesn't hate like I think he'll call a black person the N-word but than he wouldn't attack them or even treat them different, racism in the USA is so complex.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
I'm just very honest, if you criticize Floyd than worship Wlad or Golovkin, I think it's fair to compare resumes even if that gets me banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't know Onetime seems a bit racist but then probably some of his best friends are white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Leonard wasn't a 32 year old who appears average in the pros.Also only card on HBO since June.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoeits not unheard of. Leonard got paid a huge amount for his 1st pro fightQuote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitaI feel what Angel's is saying to an extent. There are prospects who are light years better than Shiming yet starving to get on a card but this chinese dude happened to be at the right place at the right time and he's being treated like a fuckin royalty. Him being put on main event with a 500k purse is just unheard of and it's mind boggling.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
On the flipside though, this is business and Zou is boosting up the ratings. In his last fight, he drew close to 300 million viewers in China so imagine if he keeps winning. That's some crazy fuckin number right there. So in a business sense, he does deserve that kind of money..
HBO wants boxing to become Cloud vs Stevenson, Alvarado vs Ruslan, Rios-Manny. They want to ignore Rigo and Ward and make any defense be considered running. Zou being the only show on HBO for 7 weeks is pretty much them giving up.
You called me a racist because I though GGG would beat Quillin.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeI'm just very honest, if you criticize Floyd than worship Wlad or Golovkin, I think it's fair to compare resumes even if that gets me banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't know Onetime seems a bit racist but then probably some of his best friends are white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Nope I said you give him to much credit and the reason was either you thought it made you look smart or that he was white. If Ishida is considered a good win something is wrong, you aren't dumb you know that chin hasn't been checked to see real fans buy into hype has been troubling.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYou called me a racist because I though GGG would beat Quillin.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeI'm just very honest, if you criticize Floyd than worship Wlad or Golovkin, I think it's fair to compare resumes even if that gets me banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't know Onetime seems a bit racist but then probably some of his best friends are white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
He's Kazak so I would consider him Asian rather then white. Quilling chin hasn't been tested by a puncher but he has shown that he can be out boxes by a mediocre fighter. Now that I think of it have you ever given a white boxer credit?Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeNope I said you give him to much credit and the reason was either you thought it made you look smart or that he was white. If Ishida is considered a good win something is wrong, you aren't dumb you know that chin hasn't been checked to see real fans buy into hype has been troubling.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYou called me a racist because I though GGG would beat Quillin.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeI'm just very honest, if you criticize Floyd than worship Wlad or Golovkin, I think it's fair to compare resumes even if that gets me banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't know Onetime seems a bit racist but then probably some of his best friends are white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
So a Chinese guy fighting in China is getting shit because HBO decided to show the card?
You couldn't make it up.....
Zou is having to work and gets hit way too much in what should be cake walk showcases right now. Arum is cashing big checks but he better enjoy this traveling circus while he can, and buy Shimming a helmet.
They're not paying the Chinese guy big money for no reason. Promoters aren't known for overpaying boxers, are they? He's being paid the market rate for what he provides. And what he provides is a way to make huge revenue from new sources (boxing) for Chinese TV and media companies and huge revenue from existing sources (gambling) for Chinese casinos. Some Puerto Rican in Philly doesn't have any of those selling points which is why his market rate for his second fight is a couple of thousand dollars. It's just his tough fucking luck for not being born Chinese and Olympic champion level at boxing.
I don't view Lucas or Golovkin as white, I don't act like Quillin is great Golovkin has the better resume, Kovalev is the sole reason Im not cancelling HBO and as far as The Klits they are a non factor in the USA, I want HBO to show their fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHe's Kazak so I would consider him Asian rather then white. Quilling chin hasn't been tested by a puncher but he has shown that he can be out boxes by a mediocre fighter. Now that I think of it have you ever given a white boxer credit?Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeNope I said you give him to much credit and the reason was either you thought it made you look smart or that he was white. If Ishida is considered a good win something is wrong, you aren't dumb you know that chin hasn't been checked to see real fans buy into hype has been troubling.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYou called me a racist because I though GGG would beat Quillin.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeI'm just very honest, if you criticize Floyd than worship Wlad or Golovkin, I think it's fair to compare resumes even if that gets me banned.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenbeanzI don't know Onetime seems a bit racist but then probably some of his best friends are white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Its understandable but in the bigger picture, one star on Chinese tv will not do well for Hbo and its future if this is Arums brain child. The future of boxing and talent ain't coming from China. I didn't even realize the card was being televised Stateside, and 4pm same day tape can't do big ratings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
I thought Onetime got banned:( He's such a useless twat.
Just one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Good to have you back, every decent poster gets banned once in a while. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
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Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
That's racist.
AppreciatedQuote:
Originally Posted by MasterGood to have you back, every decent poster gets banned once in a while. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Yes racism in boxing doesn't existQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
That's racist.
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Originally Posted by OnetimeYes racism in boxing doesn't existQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
That's racist.
An original thought in your head doesn't exist. You're boring.
Please you are classic group thinkerQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeYes racism in boxing doesn't existQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
That's racist.
An original thought in your head doesn't exist. You're boring.
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Originally Posted by OnetimePlease you are classic group thinkerQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeYes racism in boxing doesn't existQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
That's racist.
An original thought in your head doesn't exist. You're boring.
How would you know.
People like you get shocked when someone disagrees with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimePlease you are classic group thinkerQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeYes racism in boxing doesn't existQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingQuote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeJust one week you whiney cunt.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
That's racist.
An original thought in your head doesn't exist. You're boring.
How would you know.
A real character, this Angel Garcia.
I like Angel Garcia for his realness. Its alwauys resfreshing to hear a guy speak his mind instead of being fake and politically correct at all times like a pussy.
Garcia's dad is ignorant and the sooner his son loses the better so that we do not have to listen to his crap. He is the new Rock Newman.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
haha I remember that guy. Angel Garcia is uneducated but in a sport filled with phonies like Delahoya and Arum, we can use somebody like Angel.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterGarcia's dad is ignorant and the sooner his son loses the better so that we do not have to listen to his crap. He is the new Rock Newman.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
It is one thing to speak your mind but it is another to be ignorant. The comments he made about Pakistani fighters illustrates his stupidity.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamitahaha I remember that guy. Angel Garcia is uneducated but in a sport filled with phonies like Delahoya and Arum, we can use somebody like Angel.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterGarcia's dad is ignorant and the sooner his son loses the better so that we do not have to listen to his crap. He is the new Rock Newman.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I think a lot of people are like what's happened to American boxers having fans.
If Floyd fought Manny or pretty much anyone not from the USA most Americans would be rooting for Manny.
If Ward fought Golovkin again most would root for Golovkin.
It's a peculiar self hate, if JMM fought Manny in Mexico city you wouldn't see Mexicans saying I hope Manny knocks him out.
Khan didn't do much to prove him wrong though ahah.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
In regards to his Chinese rant, I think his main point (questioning what the Chinese, who are not known as a mass producer of hot boxing talent, know about boxing), is valid. He just chose to express it in a very non-PC way haha.
That's because most Mexicans probably relate to and indentify with Marquez as one of their countrymen. Floyd Mayweather is a slimeball no matter where he's from and that's why people don't root for him, he doesn't want them to. Andre Ward is a fair case, except he's not exciting to watch and has terrible promotion. It's really not as "peculiar" as you like to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
Can you name one current American boxer who fans cheer? I guess you could say americans have no pride but I can remember when Americans liked American boxers, it's peculiar because other countries cheer assholes.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingThat's because most Mexicans probably relate to and indentify with Marquez as one of their countrymen. Floyd Mayweather is a slimeball no matter where he's from and that's why people don't root for him, he doesn't want them to. Andre Ward is a fair case, except he's not exciting to watch and has terrible promotion. It's really not as "peculiar" as you like to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
That doesn't really make sense. Floyd is the most popular fighter in America (probably the world) - unless you believe everyone buys his fights hoping he loses, which is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeCan you name one current American boxer who fans cheer? I guess you could say americans have no pride but I can remember when Americans liked American boxers, it's peculiar because other countries cheer assholes.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingThat's because most Mexicans probably relate to and indentify with Marquez as one of their countrymen. Floyd Mayweather is a slimeball no matter where he's from and that's why people don't root for him, he doesn't want them to. Andre Ward is a fair case, except he's not exciting to watch and has terrible promotion. It's really not as "peculiar" as you like to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
Broner is the new American hope already being paid millions.
They're arseholes but clearly loved by the general American boxing fan.
I think you would be surprised at how hated Floyd is in the USA.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterThat doesn't really make sense. Floyd is the most popular fighter in America (probably the world) - unless you believe everyone buys his fights hoping he loses, which is ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by OnetimeCan you name one current American boxer who fans cheer? I guess you could say americans have no pride but I can remember when Americans liked American boxers, it's peculiar because other countries cheer assholes.Quote:
Originally Posted by p4pkingThat's because most Mexicans probably relate to and indentify with Marquez as one of their countrymen. Floyd Mayweather is a slimeball no matter where he's from and that's why people don't root for him, he doesn't want them to. Andre Ward is a fair case, except he's not exciting to watch and has terrible promotion. It's really not as "peculiar" as you like to think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onetime
Broner is the new American hope already being paid millions.
They're arseholes but clearly loved by the general American boxing fan.