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Toney was one of my all time fav fighters.
This ain't Toney.
I hope he gets knocked out. He is a walking punchline leaving a grease trail now.
:excited:
If there is any justice, Charr should beat the living shit out of that fat bag of goo!
Sad times :(
Charr should be ashamed of himself.
Awful brave of Charr, fighting a fat, washed up 45 year old coming off a loss.
I guess after the short thrashing Vitali gave him, he's not too eager to fight world class opposition anymore.
A fight between 2 heavyweights who can barely be considered contenders. Well Toney's never really been a contender for years.
This is a sad matchup , I have no idea why charr would take this fight.
Charr shows his level of opposition and ambition.
He should be embarrassed having to share the ring with this version of Toney.
It seems Toney has rejected the fight anyway and potentially any further prospect of a significant fight. It was very short term notice anyway. However, Toney is very old and every week is a lifetime at his age and it's anyone's guess where he is at. Maybe he hit BurgerKing after Prizefighter thinking he had earned a meal and was then shocked that an actual offer came in. Who knows?
Still sparring and training. Dnt know how short notice the fight would have been but Toney may be carrying some kind of injury from prizefighter, or prizefighter let him know where his fitness is at and he just wants adequet prep time for such a decent fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Fighting someone who challenged for the world title in his last fit is different to fighting the level in prizefighter;)
https://www.facebook.com/thejamestoney?ref=ts&fref=ts
So you think with time to prepare Toney has something left ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossStill sparring and training. Dnt know how short notice the fight would have been but Toney may be carrying some kind of injury from prizefighter, or prizefighter let him know where his fitness is at and he just wants adequet prep time for such a decent fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Fighting someone who challenged for the world title in his last fit is different to fighting the level in prizefighter;)
https://www.facebook.com/thejamestoney?ref=ts&fref=ts
Id like to see. Its much like the old Mike Tyson. There are some fighters who absolutely need activity to raise their game. They need regular fights. When Mike Tyson fought in 2000 he had 3 fights and had a fight scheduled with izonreti a few months after Golota and that fell through and then a fight with Mercer fell through then he went in with Lewis back at square one with no momentum again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlSo you think with time to prepare Toney has something left ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossStill sparring and training. Dnt know how short notice the fight would have been but Toney may be carrying some kind of injury from prizefighter, or prizefighter let him know where his fitness is at and he just wants adequet prep time for such a decent fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Fighting someone who challenged for the world title in his last fit is different to fighting the level in prizefighter;)
https://www.facebook.com/thejamestoney?ref=ts&fref=ts
Looking probably too much in to it but MAYBE the Char fight was on the table before the prizefighter, or offered around the same time as his manager "pops" did say in an interview that there was another fight on the table if the prizefighter fell through and maybe the reason they took the prizefighter was to get some rounds in. They are holding out for money by the looks. The figt is n the table for the 20th of this month. 5 weeks after the prizefighter and he was fairly fit for that. As iv already said, even Bernard Hopkins would lose to some eagre novices/journeymen over 3. Prizefighter really means nothing. In the real world Toney of now beats Harrison;)
This is a fight I will never watch, but if it does happen I'm hoping Toney,lsomehow pulls off a miracle, and beats the shit out of Charr!
That would be a bad thing because Toney would carry on boxing when he should be retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOed
Tyson was 36-37 when he fought Lewis he was unbeaten in 6 fights , Toney is 45 and hasn't beaten a top HW in years , he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId like to see. Its much like the old Mike Tyson. There are some fighters who absolutely need activity to raise their game. They need regular fights. When Mike Tyson fought in 2000 he had 3 fights and had a fight scheduled with izonreti a few months after Golota and that fell through and then a fight with Mercer fell through then he went in with Lewis back at square one with no momentum again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlSo you think with time to prepare Toney has something left ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossStill sparring and training. Dnt know how short notice the fight would have been but Toney may be carrying some kind of injury from prizefighter, or prizefighter let him know where his fitness is at and he just wants adequet prep time for such a decent fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Fighting someone who challenged for the world title in his last fit is different to fighting the level in prizefighter;)
https://www.facebook.com/thejamestoney?ref=ts&fref=ts
Looking probably too much in to it but MAYBE the Char fight was on the table before the prizefighter, or offered around the same time as his manager "pops" did say in an interview that there was another fight on the table if the prizefighter fell through and maybe the reason they took the prizefighter was to get some rounds in. They are holding out for money by the looks. The figt is n the table for the 20th of this month. 5 weeks after the prizefighter and he was fairly fit for that. As iv already said, even Bernard Hopkins would lose to some eagre novices/journeymen over 3. Prizefighter really means nothing. In the real world Toney of now beats Harrison;)
Who is Manuel Charr?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlTyson was 36-37 when he fought Lewis he was unbeaten in 6 fights , Toney is 45 and hasn't beaten a top HW in years , he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId like to see. Its much like the old Mike Tyson. There are some fighters who absolutely need activity to raise their game. They need regular fights. When Mike Tyson fought in 2000 he had 3 fights and had a fight scheduled with izonreti a few months after Golota and that fell through and then a fight with Mercer fell through then he went in with Lewis back at square one with no momentum again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlSo you think with time to prepare Toney has something left ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossStill sparring and training. Dnt know how short notice the fight would have been but Toney may be carrying some kind of injury from prizefighter, or prizefighter let him know where his fitness is at and he just wants adequet prep time for such a decent fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Fighting someone who challenged for the world title in his last fit is different to fighting the level in prizefighter;)
https://www.facebook.com/thejamestoney?ref=ts&fref=ts
Looking probably too much in to it but MAYBE the Char fight was on the table before the prizefighter, or offered around the same time as his manager "pops" did say in an interview that there was another fight on the table if the prizefighter fell through and maybe the reason they took the prizefighter was to get some rounds in. They are holding out for money by the looks. The figt is n the table for the 20th of this month. 5 weeks after the prizefighter and he was fairly fit for that. As iv already said, even Bernard Hopkins would lose to some eagre novices/journeymen over 3. Prizefighter really means nothing. In the real world Toney of now beats Harrison;)
Is he bigger than Lucas Browne? Is he a bigger puncher than Lucas Browne?
No to both.
Toney was 35lb heavier than he was in prizefighter when he lost a questionable 12 rounder on pounts to Browne, in Australia. Browne has gone on to knock out Travis Walker and David Hayes main sparring partner Richard Towers;D
If Toney can survive 12 rounds (he should have been awarded the decision against Browne and Gavern) with one of the biggest, and most powerful punchers around today im sure he will be ok against Manuel Charr;D
Quote:
Originally Posted by rossWho is Manuel Charr?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlTyson was 36-37 when he fought Lewis he was unbeaten in 6 fights , Toney is 45 and hasn't beaten a top HW in years , he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId like to see. Its much like the old Mike Tyson. There are some fighters who absolutely need activity to raise their game. They need regular fights. When Mike Tyson fought in 2000 he had 3 fights and had a fight scheduled with izonreti a few months after Golota and that fell through and then a fight with Mercer fell through then he went in with Lewis back at square one with no momentum again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlSo you think with time to prepare Toney has something left ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossStill sparring and training. Dnt know how short notice the fight would have been but Toney may be carrying some kind of injury from prizefighter, or prizefighter let him know where his fitness is at and he just wants adequet prep time for such a decent fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Fighting someone who challenged for the world title in his last fit is different to fighting the level in prizefighter;)
https://www.facebook.com/thejamestoney?ref=ts&fref=ts
Looking probably too much in to it but MAYBE the Char fight was on the table before the prizefighter, or offered around the same time as his manager "pops" did say in an interview that there was another fight on the table if the prizefighter fell through and maybe the reason they took the prizefighter was to get some rounds in. They are holding out for money by the looks. The figt is n the table for the 20th of this month. 5 weeks after the prizefighter and he was fairly fit for that. As iv already said, even Bernard Hopkins would lose to some eagre novices/journeymen over 3. Prizefighter really means nothing. In the real world Toney of now beats Harrison;)
Is he bigger than Lucas Browne? Is he a bigger puncher than Lucas Browne?
No to both.
Toney was 35lb heavier than he was in prizefighter when he lost a questionable 12 rounder on pounts to Browne, in Australia. Browne has gone on to knock out Travis Walker and David Hayes main sparring partner Richard Towers;D
If Toney can survive 12 rounds (he should have been awarded the decision against Browne and Gavern) with one of the biggest, and most powerful punchers around today im sure he will be ok against Manuel Charr;D
Well I just don't want to see Toney get hurt , he is already slurring his words , I think many here would agree it can't be good for his health.
I am staggered that you turned this thread into something to do with Haye , surprised you didn't mention Fury also.
I am not arguing the case for how good or bad Charr is , I am just concerned for the health of James Toney.
Eh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlQuote:
Originally Posted by rossWho is Manuel Charr?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlTyson was 36-37 when he fought Lewis he was unbeaten in 6 fights , Toney is 45 and hasn't beaten a top HW in years , he is done.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossId like to see. Its much like the old Mike Tyson. There are some fighters who absolutely need activity to raise their game. They need regular fights. When Mike Tyson fought in 2000 he had 3 fights and had a fight scheduled with izonreti a few months after Golota and that fell through and then a fight with Mercer fell through then he went in with Lewis back at square one with no momentum again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlSo you think with time to prepare Toney has something left ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossStill sparring and training. Dnt know how short notice the fight would have been but Toney may be carrying some kind of injury from prizefighter, or prizefighter let him know where his fitness is at and he just wants adequet prep time for such a decent fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gandalf
Fighting someone who challenged for the world title in his last fit is different to fighting the level in prizefighter;)
https://www.facebook.com/thejamestoney?ref=ts&fref=ts
Looking probably too much in to it but MAYBE the Char fight was on the table before the prizefighter, or offered around the same time as his manager "pops" did say in an interview that there was another fight on the table if the prizefighter fell through and maybe the reason they took the prizefighter was to get some rounds in. They are holding out for money by the looks. The figt is n the table for the 20th of this month. 5 weeks after the prizefighter and he was fairly fit for that. As iv already said, even Bernard Hopkins would lose to some eagre novices/journeymen over 3. Prizefighter really means nothing. In the real world Toney of now beats Harrison;)
Is he bigger than Lucas Browne? Is he a bigger puncher than Lucas Browne?
No to both.
Toney was 35lb heavier than he was in prizefighter when he lost a questionable 12 rounder on pounts to Browne, in Australia. Browne has gone on to knock out Travis Walker and David Hayes main sparring partner Richard Towers;D
If Toney can survive 12 rounds (he should have been awarded the decision against Browne and Gavern) with one of the biggest, and most powerful punchers around today im sure he will be ok against Manuel Charr;D
Well I just don't want to see Toney get hurt , he is already slurring his words , I think many here would agree it can't be good for his health.
I am staggered that you turned this thread into something to do with Haye , surprised you didn't mention Fury also.
I am not arguing the case for how good or bad Charr is , I am just concerned for the health of James Toney.
How:p
Never underestimate the old mongoose, ma nigas... toney is a born fighter, one of those throwbacks from the golden age of boxing..
What, ya think manuel charr is some hot shit or something? Lol charr aint shit man..
If Charr cannot defeat Toney he has no place ever being mentioned in boxing circles again.
Personally I think he will punch the hamburger grease out of him. Toney is a skilful guy but he is shot to shit!
Like I said, Lucas Browne is a bigger man and a bigger puncher than Char and a fat 250lb Toney lost over 12 but he should have won!Quote:
Originally Posted by Max Power
Browne has gone on this year to knockout Travis Walker and Richard Towers but he couldnt put a dent in Toney;)
My fear for Toney is if he wins this one , it may lead to a shot at Wlad or a young power punching contender and that would be very bad for his health , I'd rather he just went away and left us with the memories before his health gets worse.
I hear there's a line forming to fight Toney.
Wilder's people are chomping at the bit.