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Need so much guidance
Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.
Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.
From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh
Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.
Thank you
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I dont know, everyone is different.
Get the basics down exact, then forget them.
Dont let your overprotective guard get in the way of your freedom to punch fast or react,loosen up once you are good enough to do so and go on instinct.
Meanwhile know your strengths and also know your weaknesses, height,stocky,long reach,shorter reach than most,fast feet or a strong plodder,flexible easy to stay on balance,fixed easy to catch out of position? The mixtures are many, strengthen the weaknesses as you know how through training and technique eventually you design your style to utilize what you got in every varying situation. Study people who have made it who remind you of you. Have fun in there try to relax into that perfect middle ground or you'll tense up and use up to much oxygen.
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manchestermatt1986
Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.
Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.
From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh
Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.
Thank you
Read books on boxing like:
Erwin L Haislet
Jack Dempsey
I want to aslo advertise my website, which is based on these books and represents them in a better way, with animated gifs. The link is in my porfile or PM for it
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Thankyou both for the replys. I'm going to read the books tonight/tomorrow.
When you say basics are you talking about main punches and footwork. I'm short stocky with a smaller reach. I found when sparring I much prefer being on the inside but take a lot of blows getting there. Which sometimes hurts because I'm not quick, flexible or skilled enough to slip and dodge in
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manchestermatt1986
Thankyou both for the replys. I'm going to read the books tonight/tomorrow.
When you say basics are you talking about main punches and footwork. I'm short stocky with a smaller reach. I found when sparring I much prefer being on the inside but take a lot of blows getting there. Which sometimes hurts because I'm not quick, flexible or skilled enough to slip and dodge in
Learn the punches and how to move around- getting your feet right is the most esstial element of boxing-then learn how to slip. When you are learning to slip, always counter, always punch back.
Slipping, ducking and parrying punches, when combined with proper footwork, are how you get in close without eating punches.
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Im half way throu the first book from the above link and taking my time to read it and digest what its saying. I can see now why starting at a young age is so important to get it like second nature. When i was younger i used to skateboard alot and the main and hardest thing to master was the ollie. Everything is done from that and once people can slightly do it they rush to move onto the next thing which means there always held back because they never truly learnt to ollie naturally and properly.
I have a fitness gym at my disposle and can go every day, there are no bags or ring but i have weights and squash courts to move around in. I have been spending hours just go backwards and forwards, side to side, pivoting.
If any of you veterans had the chance to go back and start all a fresh, what would you tell me to completely master before moving on.
On another subject i was sparring the other day with a friend who i havent seen for ages and it hit me that i have come along quiet abit, not in a bigheaded way but i was better for sure. but one thing i still have problems with is how much power to put in when sparring, i aim to basically tig/tag the guy but when we get abit closer its hard to thow 3/4 punch combos with out power because im trying to use speed aswell as pivoting/twisting to punch from the legs.
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First- the first thing I would do, and would suggest you do- is learn how to punch properly. Learn all your punches and to throw good combinations WITHOUT moving your feet, without stepping. Learn to generate power and maintain balance just by shifting the weight on your feet. When you can do that, and start learning to move, it will make sense and come easier.
Second, understand that good footwork has fuck all to do with skipping about the ring. Early in his career, Sugar Ray Robinson epitomized the science of wasted movement- Ali had a PhD in the same science. Watch guys like Buddy McGirt and Julio Cesar Chavez and Albert Davila to learn how to move effectively.
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manchestermatt1986
Im half way throu the first book from the above link and taking my time to read it and digest what its saying. I can see now why starting at a young age is so important to get it like second nature. When i was younger i used to skateboard alot and the main and hardest thing to master was the ollie. Everything is done from that and once people can slightly do it they rush to move onto the next thing which means there always held back because they never truly learnt to ollie naturally and properly.
I have a fitness gym at my disposle and can go every day, there are no bags or ring but i have weights and squash courts to move around in. I have been spending hours just go backwards and forwards, side to side, pivoting.
If any of you veterans had the chance to go back and start all a fresh, what would you tell me to completely master before moving on.
On another subject i was sparring the other day with a friend who i havent seen for ages and it hit me that i have come along quiet abit, not in a bigheaded way but i was better for sure. but one thing i still have problems with is how much power to put in when sparring, i aim to basically tig/tag the guy but when we get abit closer its hard to thow 3/4 punch combos with out power because im trying to use speed aswell as pivoting/twisting to punch from the legs.
Remember to follow your dream and pray to God for talent
This is ALL you need
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ell i got up this morning and went to have a 1-1 with a coach i know of who is still fighting but out at the min with a knee problem. Showed him where im upto and he said im solid and have a tight guard and punches flow.
I need to get fitter, lighter on my feet, work more on my balance and sort my head out as in psychologically, he said im too worried about everything that im losing before i start.
but im punching from the hip/feet and twisting. my breathing is good and the years of skateboarding/snowboarding have given my legs balance and i sort them out without thinking about it. but need to be lighter and quicker, im abit heavy and flat footed. still reading the first book, about two thirds throu it
The coach has been drilling me with just 4 different 3 punchcombos so he says to keep my mind clear he will get them into me so i can always use them when needed without thinking
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oh yeam forgot to mention i threw up 3 times whilst training that hard :)
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NVSemin
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Originally Posted by
manchestermatt1986
Im half way throu the first book from the above link and taking my time to read it and digest what its saying. I can see now why starting at a young age is so important to get it like second nature. When i was younger i used to skateboard alot and the main and hardest thing to master was the ollie. Everything is done from that and once people can slightly do it they rush to move onto the next thing which means there always held back because they never truly learnt to ollie naturally and properly.
I have a fitness gym at my disposle and can go every day, there are no bags or ring but i have weights and squash courts to move around in. I have been spending hours just go backwards and forwards, side to side, pivoting.
If any of you veterans had the chance to go back and start all a fresh, what would you tell me to completely master before moving on.
On another subject i was sparring the other day with a friend who i havent seen for ages and it hit me that i have come along quiet abit, not in a bigheaded way but i was better for sure. but one thing i still have problems with is how much power to put in when sparring, i aim to basically tig/tag the guy but when we get abit closer its hard to thow 3/4 punch combos with out power because im trying to use speed aswell as pivoting/twisting to punch from the legs.
Remember to follow your dream and pray to God for talent
This is ALL you need
Once a an old Jewish man used to pray to God so that he may win the lottery. For years and years he prayed and prayed seeking more wealth, eventually he started swearing and cursing that he hadnt achieved anything. One night in a dream a voice spoke to him "Hymie you old Jew,meet me halfway; buy a fucking ticket"! ;D
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SO you can pray all you like . If you sit in you room you think those prayers will be answered? If you face the back of a cave in belief that the shadows you see on it are real life will you ever get to se the highest mountains? If you train wrong do you think prayer will be the only answer? If you choose the wrong management what then will prayer fix that choice?
I believe in prayer too but you have to know in 3d reality their are limits as to how much faith and love can help material, light the way. This planet and its sheep are getting more dense and into material so the limits grow against the energy behind it all.
You can deal with and improve even heal fully what is there,spiritually ,mentally,physically.
But you try growing a missing limb back.
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Andre
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NVSemin
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manchestermatt1986
Im half way throu the first book from the above link and taking my time to read it and digest what its saying. I can see now why starting at a young age is so important to get it like second nature. When i was younger i used to skateboard alot and the main and hardest thing to master was the ollie. Everything is done from that and once people can slightly do it they rush to move onto the next thing which means there always held back because they never truly learnt to ollie naturally and properly.
I have a fitness gym at my disposle and can go every day, there are no bags or ring but i have weights and squash courts to move around in. I have been spending hours just go backwards and forwards, side to side, pivoting.
If any of you veterans had the chance to go back and start all a fresh, what would you tell me to completely master before moving on.
On another subject i was sparring the other day with a friend who i havent seen for ages and it hit me that i have come along quiet abit, not in a bigheaded way but i was better for sure. but one thing i still have problems with is how much power to put in when sparring, i aim to basically tig/tag the guy but when we get abit closer its hard to thow 3/4 punch combos with out power because im trying to use speed aswell as pivoting/twisting to punch from the legs.
Remember to follow your dream and pray to God for talent
This is ALL you need
Once a an old Jewish man used to pray to God so that he may win the lottery. For years and years he prayed and prayed seeking more wealth, eventually he started swearing and cursing that he hadnt achieved anything. One night in a dream a voice spoke to him "Hymie you old Jew,meet me halfway; buy a fucking ticket"! ;D
this anecdote is an anecdote. It is ok to ask God for money, but God does not approve gambling and when he is being limited on how to fullfill the request.
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SO you can pray all you like . If you sit in you room you think those prayers will be answered? If you face the back of a cave in belief that the shadows you see on it are real life will you ever get to se the highest mountains? If you train wrong do you think prayer will be the only answer? If you choose the wrong management what then will prayer fix that choice?
I believe in prayer too but you have to know in 3d reality their are limits as to how much faith and love can help material, light the way. This planet and its sheep are getting more dense and into material so the limits grow against the energy behind it all.
You can deal with and improve even heal fully what is there,spiritually ,mentally,physically.
But you try growing a missing limb back.
You have to do what you can do realistically and be sure that God does the supernatural part.
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NVSemin
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Originally Posted by
Andre
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Originally Posted by
NVSemin
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Originally Posted by
manchestermatt1986
Im half way throu the first book from the above link and taking my time to read it and digest what its saying. I can see now why starting at a young age is so important to get it like second nature. When i was younger i used to skateboard alot and the main and hardest thing to master was the ollie. Everything is done from that and once people can slightly do it they rush to move onto the next thing which means there always held back because they never truly learnt to ollie naturally and properly.
I have a fitness gym at my disposle and can go every day, there are no bags or ring but i have weights and squash courts to move around in. I have been spending hours just go backwards and forwards, side to side, pivoting.
If any of you veterans had the chance to go back and start all a fresh, what would you tell me to completely master before moving on.
On another subject i was sparring the other day with a friend who i havent seen for ages and it hit me that i have come along quiet abit, not in a bigheaded way but i was better for sure. but one thing i still have problems with is how much power to put in when sparring, i aim to basically tig/tag the guy but when we get abit closer its hard to thow 3/4 punch combos with out power because im trying to use speed aswell as pivoting/twisting to punch from the legs.
Remember to follow your dream and pray to God for talent
This is ALL you need
Once a an old Jewish man used to pray to God so that he may win the lottery. For years and years he prayed and prayed seeking more wealth, eventually he started swearing and cursing that he hadnt achieved anything. One night in a dream a voice spoke to him "Hymie you old Jew,meet me halfway; buy a fucking ticket"! ;D
this anecdote is an anecdote. It is ok to ask God for money, but God does not approve gambling and when he is being limited on how to fullfill the request.
That was a joke, he was too Jewish to buy a ticket.
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welliv asked a few questions on the threads and done a hell of alot of reading. Got some 1-1 lessons booked with a trainer and started to keep a training log on this site. Guess well see how it goes and aim for 12 months from now to be in the ring for the first time :)
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aim for 12 months from now to be in the ring for the first time :)
too long
aim for 3-4 months
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NVSemin
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manchestermatt1986
aim for 12 months from now to be in the ring for the first time :)
too long
aim for 3-4 months
Really? im very overweight and not fighting fit yet? is 3-4 months for my first bout realistic? :confused:
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manchestermatt1986
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NVSemin
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manchestermatt1986
aim for 12 months from now to be in the ring for the first time :)
too long
aim for 3-4 months
Really? im very overweight and not fighting fit yet? is 3-4 months for my first bout realistic? :confused:
Do not be afraid to loose, the record means nothing in amateur
Experience is far more important, a fight in 3-4 months means more than 12 months of training
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manchestermatt1986
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NVSemin
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manchestermatt1986
aim for 12 months from now to be in the ring for the first time :)
too long
aim for 3-4 months
Really? im very overweight and not fighting fit yet? is 3-4 months for my first bout realistic? :confused:
1 year is realistic, I doubt anyone sensible would advise you to compete in 12 weeks.
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boyla
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manchestermatt1986
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NVSemin
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manchestermatt1986
aim for 12 months from now to be in the ring for the first time :)
too long
aim for 3-4 months
Really? im very overweight and not fighting fit yet? is 3-4 months for my first bout realistic? :confused:
1 year is realistic, I doubt anyone sensible would advise you to compete in 12 weeks.
He is from 1986 means 27 years. I kinda doubt he trains for a competition
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Do not rephrase the conversation.
OP said he would aim to step into the ring in 12 months , a noble goal, you rubbished this goal and said 3-4 months is the right time without knowing anything about the person, health, skill or other commitments, why are you back tracking on your original statements.
What is your reasoning if a man is a certain age he should put on some gloves and get in the ring, I know plenty of 50yo men should they compete in a bout in 12 weeks what is the logic in that.
I also know a few 27yo who like to drink 7 days a week, should I enter them in a show.
Your comments were to my eyes demoralising and un-constructive.
I would tread more lightly when you advise people to just go for it doesn't matter if you get beat, think long term.
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Hi guys, i appreciate all the comments and hope i havent caused friction. well iv been hard at it now and iv set my 2014 goal to get in the ring and so at least my first and maybe second amateur match. im trying my hardest to get fitter at the moment and i really need to be sparring alot more
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manchestermatt1986
Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.
Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.
From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh
Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.
Thank you
For right now being comfortable in the ring is the main thing. As long as you know what to expect for the most part. Do you ever get any hard sparring in?
As far as being able to take punches better than giving them, some people are like that when sparring. I think it stems from being timid about punching training partners/friends. Some can tear up in the gym while sparring but shut down in a fight. Others shut down while sparring but they tear up in fights.
Just make sure you keep your defense tight so your blocking punches and not actually eating them. If you have a tight defense I would say your about ready. If your actually getting hit you need some work. Only you (and your coach, but mainly you) will know if your ready.
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boyla
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manchestermatt1986
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Originally Posted by
NVSemin
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Originally Posted by
manchestermatt1986
aim for 12 months from now to be in the ring for the first time :)
too long
aim for 3-4 months
Really? im very overweight and not fighting fit yet? is 3-4 months for my first bout realistic? :confused:
1 year is realistic, I doubt anyone sensible would advise you to compete in 12 weeks.
You cant pull on flowers to make them grow.
We should leave this decision to him and his coach. We've never seen the dude so much as shadow box so we couldnt possibly know when he should step in the ring.
3-4 months isnt unrealistic depending on where hes at. 6-12 months seems average for a newbie. Everyone developes at their own speed.
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manchestermatt1986
Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.
Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.
From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh
Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.
Thank you
For right now being comfortable in the ring is the main thing. As long as you know what to expect for the most part. Do you ever get any hard sparring in?
As far as being able to take punches better than giving them, some people are like that when sparring. I think it stems from being timid about punching training partners/friends. Some can tear up in the gym while sparring but shut down in a fight. Others shut down while sparring but they tear up in fights.
Just make sure you keep your defense tight so your blocking punches and not actually eating them. If you have a tight defense I would say your about ready. If your actually getting hit you need some work. Only you (and your coach, but mainly you) will know if your ready.
i hope to god im the timid sparring guy and tear up in the fight. Some one once asked me "are you scared to hit them incase they hit you back harder cause there better" and i replied with "i know they can hit me harder BECAUSE they are better, i respect them and dont want them thinking im trying to prove something, i want to learn but without eating shit constantly cause im trying" thats how i feel when i spar. I look at the guy whos been doing it years and is probably younger than me and i know he's a good boxer, better than me, i want to learn from him and try and hit him but i dont want to land stuff and in return get my face smashed in just so remind me hes better, i already know that.
so my answer is no, i dont get hard sparring in alot. i was just about getting comfortable with being in the ring before i got my tooth knocked out :-\
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manchestermatt1986
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cambay411
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Originally Posted by
manchestermatt1986
Hi, i am new to the site and been boxing with intent to get in the ring for a match for 6 month approx. I am 26 and was 15 stone now 14 and still dropping. I am a member of two boxing clubs and upto sparring level now but i seem to get beat.....alot. I seem to take punches alot better than give them. I havent been knocked down or scared yet but i dont seem to connect alot with my own.
Because im fresh and new, older and hopefully a little wiser. I want to learn the 'best' way with a fresh clean canvas for me to build up knowledge.
From everyone on here knowledge, i expect people can tell me what they would have done if they coul;d go back and start a fresh
Please can you guide me towards info that will help me.
Thank you
For right now being comfortable in the ring is the main thing. As long as you know what to expect for the most part. Do you ever get any hard sparring in?
As far as being able to take punches better than giving them, some people are like that when sparring. I think it stems from being timid about punching training partners/friends. Some can tear up in the gym while sparring but shut down in a fight. Others shut down while sparring but they tear up in fights.
Just make sure you keep your defense tight so your blocking punches and not actually eating them. If you have a tight defense I would say your about ready. If your actually getting hit you need some work. Only you (and your coach, but mainly you) will know if your ready.
i hope to god im the timid sparring guy and tear up in the fight. Some one once asked me "are you scared to hit them incase they hit you back harder cause there better" and i replied with "i know they can hit me harder BECAUSE they are better, i respect them and dont want them thinking im trying to prove something, i want to learn but without eating shit constantly cause im trying" thats how i feel when i spar. I look at the guy whos been doing it years and is probably younger than me and i know he's a good boxer, better than me, i want to learn from him and try and hit him but i dont want to land stuff and in return get my face smashed in just so remind me hes better, i already know that.
so my answer is no, i dont get hard sparring in alot. i was just about getting comfortable with being in the ring before i got my tooth knocked out :-\
No need for a lot of hard sparring. imo light sparring is best for working on technique and skills. When you have two people going light, neither have to worry about the getting hit factor therefore both are working on pure skill.
This of course gets you ready for hard sparring, which will get you used to getting hit and hitting back. But it all starts with working on your skills while light sparring.
Dont worry so much about landing a good shot and them coming back harder to prove a point. Thats just something you cant worry about in boxing in a fight or sparring. Does this happen, yes it does. But as long as your not throwing full power and not just unloading punches on someone than you should be ok. If they come back and get a few good shots in, its all in good measure. Afterall its Boxing, thats what happens.
If your eating punches, it sound to me like you need to tighten up your defense. Try out a basic peek a boo stance. I think its awesome for blocking punches especially for beginners. Keep your hands up and elbows nice and tight. Snap your hands back into position after every punch.
When you throw a punch dont keep your head in the middle and keep your chin tucked. Work on landing straight punches until you start to learn how to set punches up. Work the jab.
Some of this might help or it might not. Its hard to say without being there.
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I appreciate all your comments, I'm with my trainer at 10.30 tomorrow so I'll see how I get on. I also went to a Kung-fu class with a friend who goes all the time on Monday and told him my aim is to have my first amateur bout this year and he says he can help too with certain things. Will help me with stances, fighting southpar and also the snap and punching from the entire body, he mentioned jack Dempsey a few times, sounds promising
Also going to set up a mini gym in a mates garage. Bag, speedball and double end ball
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I appreciate all your comments, I'm with my trainer at 10.30 tomorrow so I'll see how I get on. I also went to a Kung-fu class with a friend who goes all the time on Monday and told him my aim is to have my first amateur bout this year and he says he can help too with certain things. Will help me with stances, fighting southpar and also the snap and punching from the entire body, he mentioned jack Dempsey a few times, sounds promising
Also going to set up a mini gym in a mates garage. Bag, speedball and double end ball
A small exercise that can help with putting snap on your punches.... (Bare with me lol)
Get into your stance.
Square up to a wall (I find doorways and places like that work best so you can line up to the wall as needed for each punch).
Extend your right as if your punching, put your open hand on the wall, push using your hips and shoulders. Hold the flex.
You can do this simulating the jab or hooks as well. It works and stretches the muscles you use to snap those punches.
I hope you understand that as it is described badly lol. I actually learned this from some info someone gave me on here. Would like to give credit where its due but I cant remember who it was.
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Yea I'll try that, thanks. After reading up on sugar boxing site iv started trying to throw my shoulder first as well. The teacher at Kung-fu was saying that with a true build up its like power spiralling up from the foot to hip etc then released through the hand. He also said that opening and closing the chest is a technique that isn't used enough. Hard to explain but when you throw a jab the chest opens, when you throw the next punch whether it be cross hook or hook with same hand you close the chest and this keeps going open close open close etc.
Any of this make sense or sound far fetched?
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Yea I'll try that, thanks. After reading up on sugar boxing site iv started trying to throw my shoulder first as well. The teacher at Kung-fu was saying that with a true build up its like power spiralling up from the foot to hip etc then released through the hand. He also said that opening and closing the chest is a technique that isn't used enough. Hard to explain but when you throw a jab the chest opens, when you throw the next punch whether it be cross hook or hook with same hand you close the chest and this keeps going open close open close etc.
Any of this make sense or sound far fetched?
It definately doesnt sound far fetched. I will expieriment with it tonight.
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So been practicing different wayt to try and snap my punch, cant tell if im getting the snap but my trainer said my left, right hook and cross have all felt stronger this week.
Been doing alot of foot work with resitance bands tied round my feet and keeping the tension on
Also found that my overhand right is 'my punch' as the trainer said. So been drilling into me a jab, cross, left body hook then overhand right to face. ;D
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So been practicing different wayt to try and snap my punch, cant tell if im getting the snap but my trainer said my left, right hook and cross have all felt stronger this week.
Been doing alot of foot work with resitance bands tied round my feet and keeping the tension on
Also found that my overhand right is 'my punch' as the trainer said. So been drilling into me a jab, cross, left body hook then overhand right to face. ;D
Every right handed fighter, every trainer will tell you that the 'over hand" right is your punch. Every place in the world.
Because you are right handed. Think about it.
If he is teaching you anything, your left hook will be your best punch.
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Yea i understand. ill not look into it too much then when he says it. Do you think that means the trainer is just being 'nice' to keep motivation or i could do with looking for a more techincal teacher?
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manchestermatt1986
Yea i understand. ill not look into it too much then when he says it. Do you think that means the trainer is just being 'nice' to keep motivation or i could do with looking for a more techincal teacher?
For now just keep us updated. We are not there with you to really make any judgements.
I will say he should have spotted you leaning with your punches immediately and corrected it. But like I said your new and we arent there. Keep us updated.
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manchestermatt1986
Yea i understand. ill not look into it too much then when he says it. Do you think that means the trainer is just being 'nice' to keep motivation or i could do with looking for a more techincal teacher?
I don't know what he is teaching you. He could very well be looking to motivate you.
Keep this in mind, for your own benefit...When you throw a real strong right hand, it should put you in a spot to throw a real strong left hook. It sets up the punch. Now, if your feet aren't right to make that happen, then your right hand isn't exactly right, no matter how hard you think you are throwing it.
In boxing, the third punch tells. By that I mean, it tells the truth about your balance. Jab, right, hook. That is the foundation of it all.
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I understand that now. We've been working on alot of combinations. Im upto 12 punch combos now and i sometimes shuffle my feet, aswell as pivoting, to keep balance and move with punches.
One thing that has happened this week which id like advice on..
iv been sparring last few weeks and loving it, each week my trainer has been getting heavier and heavier to condition me to get used to punches. I missed one yesterday and it met my chin quiet flush ;) he checked i was ok and we laughed but i had to drop to a knee till my head stopped spinning. I carried on sparring and still got stuck in, but how do you deal with the ringing and i had a headache for about 24 hours. Is that normal? i could of been slightly dehydrated also becuase after trainming i basically collapsed at 4pm on th couch sleeping on and off then had my meal at 7pm before bed at 9. so hardly drank anything.
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manchestermatt1986
I understand that now. We've been working on alot of combinations. Im upto 12 punch combos now and i sometimes shuffle my feet, aswell as pivoting, to keep balance and move with punches.
One thing that has happened this week which id like advice on..
iv been sparring last few weeks and loving it, each week my trainer has been getting heavier and heavier to condition me to get used to punches. I missed one yesterday and it met my chin quiet flush ;) he checked i was ok and we laughed but i had to drop to a knee till my head stopped spinning. I carried on sparring and still got stuck in, but how do you deal with the ringing and i had a headache for about 24 hours. Is that normal? i could of been slightly dehydrated also becuase after trainming i basically collapsed at 4pm on th couch sleeping on and off then had my meal at 7pm before bed at 9. so hardly drank anything.
Definitely normal to have a headache. I find 800 milligrams of ibuprophen works wonders but I have to wait until my head starts to really hurt. If I take it as soon as my head starts to hurt it doesn't seem to help much. My headaches come on a couple hours later.
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im so glad you said that, i thought i had a weak jaw or i was just soft haha. iv hurt myself countless times skateboarding and snowboarding, even broke bones, sprains etc but i panicked thinking theres no way i can be a boxer if i cant take a punch.
the trainer has got me hitting my jaw gently daily to condition it?
also when were training he puts on hte big kicking pads for mma and hits me hard while i have my guard up either hooks or jabs, says its to get used to my head getting knocked, my vision being snapped away from what im looking at and to keep my eyes open
anything else i can do?
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trainer has dropped a bombshell on me today and said he thinks that my boxing is tight and im just overweight and heavy on my feet. He wants to put me in a local even in april/may.
I nearly shot back when he said so soon. he says win or lose its the experience and to get me used to the ring. i have got to lose weight thou, do i really need to be up at 5am running because i start work at 6am??
also iv took a step back and looked at my diet and i cant get it correct. im not eating enough calories but what im eating isnt good enought nutrtion either.
