Vital Boxing - Thompson Wants Fury Fight!
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Vital Boxing - Thompson Wants Fury Fight!
What do you think would happen?
Thompson is doing his best to keep the money rolling in and to be fair there arent many big name options for afury at the moment. He needs a fight very soon because of Haye pissing him around.
Wilder, Arreola and Stiverne are not real options. Wilders team wont risk him. Arreola and Stiveren are foghting each other. Pulev has a fight coming up.
Some on here dont like to admit it but Fury is somewhat avoided. He is so big and can fight that he is not someone that any fighter anywhere near a title shot will want to face.
Peter Fury has said he wants Tyson to have between 4 and 6 fights this year so that says that they realise if they wait to get a decent name it could be anther year of sitting round so anyone with a recognisable name that wants a fight will get one. They were looking at Fres Oquendo early last year and he has piped up so that is the kind of opponent im thinking they will have no choice but to go with. It would be unfair for a fighter who is still progressing like Tyson to not now be gifted some kind of warm up.
Thompson is a hard ask for Fury. Tyson is younger and bigger but Tony is more skilled and has better defense. If this fight is made it will boil down to can Fury fight smart and is Thompson too old...if the answer to either of those questions is no then Fury will lose.
I think Thompson wins a decision
You have to be joking!Quote:
Originally Posted by El Kabong
Did you not see him against Pulev?
He did nothing but then in Pulevs latest fight he loses rounds and gets dropped by a journeyman who was wiped out inside a round by Arreola and takes 5 rounds to win;D
Thompson wants a pay day and will offer a workout but his fights with Price proved just how shit Price is not how good Thompson is.
As soon as fury goes in with a decent genuine Heavy who can punch he's fucked.
Take your tounge out of his asshole for once and you might see what everyone else does.
I think Furys brilliant for boxing but its all over soon as he's banged by a puncher :)
Everyone understands he's not as good as he will be, but he talks so much trash, all the time, that some of the--US fans--just want someone to shut his mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I know the Haye episode has him frustrated, but he should let his team make some sure fire fights for him.
Truthfully I think Haye or Thompson are not his best choices now.
How is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
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Originally Posted by beenKOedEveryone understands he's not as good as he will be, but he talks so much trash, all the time, that some of the--US fans--just want someone to shut his mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I know the Haye episode has him frustrated, but he should let his team make some sure fire fights for him.
Truthfully I think Haye or Thompson are not his best choices now.
Hey, wait a minute. Why not Thompson? I mean, forget Haye. Haye's nothing but a blowhard, asking for title shots he doesn't deserve, and mysteriously dropping out of "Klitschko-less" fights.
But why not Thompson? I like Thompson for both Fury AND Wilder. C'mon! How much longer are we going to wait until we expect both these big bangers to "shit or get off the pot"? I agree that Fury and Wilder shouldn't face each other yet. Assuming they both continue to develop and get a few more W's under their belts, there's a potential big-money fight to be made, with lots of fan interest.
David Price tried Thompson twice, to his credit. Unfortunately, that didn't do much for Price's career. But that just says that Price would've gotten KO'ed down the line..... if not by Thompson then by somebody else.
Thompson wants Fury..... Fury's handlers want to keep him busy..... no one else is available right now.
So what's the holdup??
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Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedEveryone understands he's not as good as he will be, but he talks so much trash, all the time, that some of the--US fans--just want someone to shut his mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I know the Haye episode has him frustrated, but he should let his team make some sure fire fights for him.
Truthfully I think Haye or Thompson are not his best choices now.
Hey, wait a minute. Why not Thompson? I mean, forget Haye. Haye's nothing but a blowhard, asking for title shots he doesn't deserve, and mysteriously dropping out of "Klitschko-less" fights.
But why not Thompson? I like Thompson for both Fury AND Wilder. C'mon! How much longer are we going to wait until we expect both these big bangers to "shit or get off the pot"? I agree that Fury and Wilder shouldn't face each other yet. Assuming they both continue to develop and get a few more W's under their belts, there's a potential big-money fight to be made, with lots of fan interest.
David Price tried Thompson twice, to his credit. Unfortunately, that didn't do much for Price's career. But that just says that Price would've gotten KO'ed down the line..... if not by Thompson then by somebody else.
Thompson wants Fury..... Fury's handlers want to keep him busy..... no one else is available right now.
So what's the holdup??
What he said ^
Can the bloody pond get any scummier? Just when you thought "stagnant" had a conclusion in its definition, the heavyweight division shows up.
Please post the interview I can't find it. I saw the press conferences. Without knowing what the offers were u cannot say he is avoided or being ducked. I cannot imagine if Arreola was made a good offer that he would not fight Fury. As far as I recall Arreola fought Stiverne a week after the fight so that fight could already have been made when Fury made them offers? I know fighters like to call out guys who cannot fight them!Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
Fury has bigger fishes to fry so Joe Blow Thompson aint gonna get the fight. WHat the hell does Fury have to gain by beating up on Thompson.. absolutely nothing.
Fury is looking for Wilder, Chisora, or Lucas Browne next...
Thompson is more credible then Browne for me. Can't see the wilder fight happening. I'd like the Chisora rematch. A fit Chisora will be a real test.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
I like Chisora but I think he's had his chance. His development was really badly stunted by getting a title shot so early. In his last few fights he has been hurt a few times and I honestly think Fury would stop him very early. He's still getting hit but he's also now getting hurt regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeThompson is more credible then Browne for me. Can't see the wilder fight happening. I'd like the Chisora rematch. A fit Chisora will be a real test.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
It would be a shame for British boxing if it did happen as it would almost certainly end Chisoras career. Manuel Charr would be a good option also. Its going to come down to who actually truly wants the fight and probably will end up being Chisora as he has the ranking and should be a straight forward fight to make as Chisora is also a known name.
No he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
Fury cant punch , only you thinks he can.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossI like Chisora but I think he's had his chance. His development was really badly stunted by getting a title shot so early. In his last few fights he has been hurt a few times and I honestly think Fury would stop him very early. He's still getting hit but he's also now getting hurt regularly.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeThompson is more credible then Browne for me. Can't see the wilder fight happening. I'd like the Chisora rematch. A fit Chisora will be a real test.Quote:
Originally Posted by FinitoElDinamita
It would be a shame for British boxing if it did happen as it would almost certainly end Chisoras career. Manuel Charr would be a good option also. Its going to come down to who actually truly wants the fight and probably will end up being Chisora as he has the ranking and should be a straight forward fight to make as Chisora is also a known name.
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Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
He hits harder than Adamek and Adamek smashed shit out of Arreola. Beat him up worse than Stiverne did. He also hits harder than Huck who had Povetkin in big trouble.
Neither of those two could dent Cunningham.
Are you goin to post this so called video of Arreolas trainer sayin Arreola won't fight Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
He hits harder than Adamek and Adamek smashed shit out of Arreola. Beat him up worse than Stiverne did. He also hits harder than Huck who had Povetkin in big trouble.
Neither of those two could dent Cunningham.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0cg5Gc3srgQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAre you goin to post this so called video of Arreolas trainer sayin Arreola won't fight Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
He hits harder than Adamek and Adamek smashed shit out of Arreola. Beat him up worse than Stiverne did. He also hits harder than Huck who had Povetkin in big trouble.
Neither of those two could dent Cunningham.
How come you changed you post from Fury "hitting like a girl" Al? Are you scared he will go Curtis Woodhouse on your sorry ass?;D
I have no. Idea what you are talking about sorry. I contend fury does not hit hard at top level as will be proved , watch this space . I haven't changed any post .Quote:
Originally Posted by rosshttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0cg5Gc3srgQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAre you goin to post this so called video of Arreolas trainer sayin Arreola won't fight Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
He hits harder than Adamek and Adamek smashed shit out of Arreola. Beat him up worse than Stiverne did. He also hits harder than Huck who had Povetkin in big trouble.
Neither of those two could dent Cunningham.
How come you changed you post from Fury "hitting like a girl" Al? Are you scared he will go Curtis Woodhouse on your sorry ass?;D
Oh yes, I see, you have just felt the need to post twice on how poor Furys power is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI have no. Idea what you are talking about sorry. I contend fury does hit hard at top level as will be proved , watch this space . I haven't changed any post .Quote:
Originally Posted by rosshttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0cg5Gc3srgQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAre you goin to post this so called video of Arreolas trainer sayin Arreola won't fight Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
He hits harder than Adamek and Adamek smashed shit out of Arreola. Beat him up worse than Stiverne did. He also hits harder than Huck who had Povetkin in big trouble.
Neither of those two could dent Cunningham.
How come you changed you post from Fury "hitting like a girl" Al? Are you scared he will go Curtis Woodhouse on your sorry ass?;D
He is the only fighter to have legitimately KO'd Cunningham but yet Cunningham has faced and beaten men who have beaten up and hurt genuine world class heavies.;D
I see.....;)
I still do not know what you are talking about regarding me changing any posts ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOh yes, I see, you have just felt the need to post twice on how poor Furys power is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI have no. Idea what you are talking about sorry. I contend fury does hit hard at top level as will be proved , watch this space . I haven't changed any post .Quote:
Originally Posted by rosshttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0cg5Gc3srgQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAre you goin to post this so called video of Arreolas trainer sayin Arreola won't fight Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
He hits harder than Adamek and Adamek smashed shit out of Arreola. Beat him up worse than Stiverne did. He also hits harder than Huck who had Povetkin in big trouble.
Neither of those two could dent Cunningham.
How come you changed you post from Fury "hitting like a girl" Al? Are you scared he will go Curtis Woodhouse on your sorry ass?;D
He is the only fighter to have legitimately KO'd Cunningham but yet Cunningham has faced and beaten men who have beaten up and hurt genuine world class heavies.;D
I see.....;)
Also I contend that only you regard Fury as any sort of puncher at top level , and your lack of support backs up my point.
Fury isnt a big puncher at heavy, at any level. Rarely has he one punched KOd anyone, even at the lower levels. Obviously given his size he has enough power to earn fighters respect but his KOs generally come from landing a lot of shots rather then one big one. Cunninghams KO seemed to come from sheer exhaustion of having a 7 foot monster lean on him for several rounds.
To talk of Fury as world class or a world beater at the moment is silly. He is a prospect. I doubt he will be that good and feel he will lose to the first genuine class heavyweight he fights. Ross disagrees and thinks he will be champ. Ross will also argue that Johnson and Cunningham are genuine class heavyweights where I will argue Johnson is shit and Cunningham is not going to beat a genusine heavyweight (again Adamek is not a genuine heavyweight).
Time will tell who is right and who is wrong but I dont think Fury will be fighting a genuine threat for a few years still. Id like to see him fight Chisora again and David Price but unlikely to happen. Also with all the shite he talks Id like to see him fight Wlad but I know he wont get in a ring with him.
I thought you had changed your post as id quoted a post of yours but then I noticed you had posted practically the same thing twice. Two consecutive typically crap posts from yourself. Last post of the firt page and first post of the second.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI still do not know what you are talking about regarding me changing any posts ?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossOh yes, I see, you have just felt the need to post twice on how poor Furys power is...Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI have no. Idea what you are talking about sorry. I contend fury does hit hard at top level as will be proved , watch this space . I haven't changed any post .Quote:
Originally Posted by rosshttp://m.youtube.com/watch?v=B0cg5Gc3srgQuote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAre you goin to post this so called video of Arreolas trainer sayin Arreola won't fight Fury?Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlNo he cant , at top level he hits like a girl.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossIf you watch the press conference to announce the Fury v Cunningham fight both Fury and Cunningham mention that a few other American heavies were offered the fight, including Arreola and Stiverne and they all turned it down. There is also an interview on youtube with Arreolas trainer where he basically says a Fury fight is too much of a risk for Arreola and he even goes as far as to say that as his trainer he would accept the fight but Arreola himself wouldnt.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeHow is he avoided? What fighters has he made genuine offers to fight that have been turned down? You are talking shite and have no idea what you are talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Wilder is in the exact same boat as Fury as regards Wilders team wont risk him! Do you think Furys team would risk a fight with Wilder for shitty money?
If it was bullshit those fighters that Fury and Cunningham mentioned would yave called them on it.
Be realistic, Fury is huge, can punch and move, he can be hurt but thats a gamble when if you cant catch him, you know he has good stamina and a fast pace and puts punches together more than any other heavyweight.
He hits harder than Adamek and Adamek smashed shit out of Arreola. Beat him up worse than Stiverne did. He also hits harder than Huck who had Povetkin in big trouble.
Neither of those two could dent Cunningham.
How come you changed you post from Fury "hitting like a girl" Al? Are you scared he will go Curtis Woodhouse on your sorry ass?;D
He is the only fighter to have legitimately KO'd Cunningham but yet Cunningham has faced and beaten men who have beaten up and hurt genuine world class heavies.;D
I see.....;)
Also I contend that only you regard Fury as any sort of puncher at top level , and your lack of support backs up my point.
Lucky us;D
Iv seen all the popular, hyped fighters in the past get bullshit, iv also seen other fighters be totally underrated only to prove all the morons wrong. Fury will surprise a lot of people as long as someone actually signs to fight him. He should have a win over pulev right now if it weren't for Haye. Judging by Pulevs last couple of fights he is soon to be found out. Lack lustre and his chin also seems a tad dodgy.
But yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win;D
Deffinitly not a heavyweight;D:scratchchin:
Again it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBut yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win;D
Deffinitly not a heavyweight;D:scratchchin:
You said hes not a heavyweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAgain it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBut yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win;D
Deffinitly not a heavyweight;D:scratchchin:
If he can beat heavyweight fighters up better than other top heavyweights surely he must be a heavyweight? Or maybe the fighters he facing arent genuine heavies?
Maybe that fat blob Arreola should lose weight and be a cruiser. He doesnt look as muscled as Cunningham and Cunningham is ripped at 210lb. Arreola has no muscle on him. Same as Stiverne, just bloated.
These two contesting the WBC heavyweight title could well be the fattest title fight ever;D
No I said hes not a genuine heavyweight. He would still be a crusier if he could get decent paydays at that weight. Dont get me wrong he has been a good heavyweight fighter especially considering his size disadvantage. Hes washed up now anyway imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou said hes not a heavyweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAgain it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBut yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win;D
Deffinitly not a heavyweight;D:scratchchin:
If he can beat heavyweight fighters up better than other top heavyweights surely he must be a heavyweight? Or maybe the fighters he facing arent genuine heavies?
Maybe that fat blob Arreola should lose weight and be a cruiser. He doesnt look as muscled as Cunningham and Cunningham is ripped at 210lb. Arreola has no muscle on him. Same as Stiverne, just bloated.
These two contesting the WBC heavyweight title could well be the fattest title fight ever;D
He was 217lb and solid when he beat Arreola. You do realise a heavyweight is any fighter over 200lb right? Its only recently been that way as well. Cruiser used to be 190lb just a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeNo I said hes not a genuine heavyweight. He would still be a crusier if he could get decent paydays at that weight. Dont get me wrong he has been a good heavyweight fighter especially considering his size disadvantage. Hes washed up now anyway imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou said hes not a heavyweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAgain it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBut yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win;D
Deffinitly not a heavyweight;D:scratchchin:
If he can beat heavyweight fighters up better than other top heavyweights surely he must be a heavyweight? Or maybe the fighters he facing arent genuine heavies?
Maybe that fat blob Arreola should lose weight and be a cruiser. He doesnt look as muscled as Cunningham and Cunningham is ripped at 210lb. Arreola has no muscle on him. Same as Stiverne, just bloated.
These two contesting the WBC heavyweight title could well be the fattest title fight ever;D
The greatest heavyweight ever was lighter than 217lb in his pomp...
Is he not a genuine heavy?
Or are you just talking shit based on what some fighters now weigh?
Yes I am comparing him to modern day heavyweights, not past heavyweights who were much smaller. If you want to argue that go to the other threads on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe was 217lb and solid when he beat Arreola. You do realise a heavyweight is any fighter over 200lb right? Its only recently been that way as well. Cruiser used to be 190lb just a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeNo I said hes not a genuine heavyweight. He would still be a crusier if he could get decent paydays at that weight. Dont get me wrong he has been a good heavyweight fighter especially considering his size disadvantage. Hes washed up now anyway imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou said hes not a heavyweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAgain it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBut yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win;D
Deffinitly not a heavyweight;D:scratchchin:
If he can beat heavyweight fighters up better than other top heavyweights surely he must be a heavyweight? Or maybe the fighters he facing arent genuine heavies?
Maybe that fat blob Arreola should lose weight and be a cruiser. He doesnt look as muscled as Cunningham and Cunningham is ripped at 210lb. Arreola has no muscle on him. Same as Stiverne, just bloated.
These two contesting the WBC heavyweight title could well be the fattest title fight ever;D
The greatest heavyweight ever was lighter than 217lb in his pomp...
Is he not a genuine heavy?
Or are you just talking shit based on what some fighters now weigh?
So at what weight is the cut off for "genuine" heavyweights?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeYes I am comparing him to modern day heavyweights, not past heavyweights who were much smaller. If you want to argue that go to the other threads on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossHe was 217lb and solid when he beat Arreola. You do realise a heavyweight is any fighter over 200lb right? Its only recently been that way as well. Cruiser used to be 190lb just a few years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeNo I said hes not a genuine heavyweight. He would still be a crusier if he could get decent paydays at that weight. Dont get me wrong he has been a good heavyweight fighter especially considering his size disadvantage. Hes washed up now anyway imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossYou said hes not a heavyweight?Quote:
Originally Posted by SilkeyjoeAgain it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossBut yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title:vd:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win;D
Deffinitly not a heavyweight;D:scratchchin:
If he can beat heavyweight fighters up better than other top heavyweights surely he must be a heavyweight? Or maybe the fighters he facing arent genuine heavies?
Maybe that fat blob Arreola should lose weight and be a cruiser. He doesnt look as muscled as Cunningham and Cunningham is ripped at 210lb. Arreola has no muscle on him. Same as Stiverne, just bloated.
These two contesting the WBC heavyweight title could well be the fattest title fight ever;D
The greatest heavyweight ever was lighter than 217lb in his pomp...
Is he not a genuine heavy?
Or are you just talking shit based on what some fighters now weigh?
No weight. A genuine heavyweight is one whos fought there all his career or who moved up because he couldnt make the lower weight anymore. Would you call Mayweather a genuine MW just because he could make 160?
Genuine is probably the wrong word, natural HW.
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Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Would you say Chris Arreola is a genuine 250lb fighter? What should so eones genuine weight be? What should there genuine body fat percentage be to get to their genuine weight?
I think you are getting confused. There are genuine heavyweights and then there are big heavyweights.
Heavyweight is the only weight division with no cap so you will get big fighters in that weight, whereas if Floyd did fight at middle, his opponent could only weigh up to 160lb.
If Adamek can fight, look in shape at 217lb, beat up, stop earlier etc genuine heavyweights then he is a fucking genuine heavyweight!
Muhammed ali was a genuine heavyweight. He would not compete at cruiser today but Adamek weighed more than he did and was in shape!
Arreola will soon be fighting for the WBC title against little fatty Stiverne. Adamek probably beats the both of them and hes not a genuine heavy!:rolleyes:
I doubt very much Arreola beats either of them judging by his latest performances.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossQuote:
Originally Posted by Silkeyjoe
Would you say Chris Arreola is a genuine 250lb fighter? What should so eones genuine weight be? What should there genuine body fat percentage be to get to their genuine weight?
I think you are getting confused. There are genuine heavyweights and then there are big heavyweights.
Heavyweight is the only weight division with no cap so you will get big fighters in that weight, whereas if Floyd did fight at middle, his opponent could only weigh up to 160lb.
If Adamek can fight, look in shape at 217lb, beat up, stop earlier etc genuine heavyweights then he is a fucking genuine heavyweight!
Muhammed ali was a genuine heavyweight. He would not compete at cruiser today but Adamek weighed more than he did and was in shape!
Arreola will soon be fighting for the WBC title against little fatty Stiverne. Adamek probably beats the both of them and hes not a genuine heavy!:rolleyes:
I would think Ali would fight at Cruiser for at least some of his career if he was around nowadays
Have to admit I have no idea what the holdup is with Wilder.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanQuote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedEveryone understands he's not as good as he will be, but he talks so much trash, all the time, that some of the--US fans--just want someone to shut his mouth.Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
I know the Haye episode has him frustrated, but he should let his team make some sure fire fights for him.
Truthfully I think Haye or Thompson are not his best choices now.
Hey, wait a minute. Why not Thompson? I mean, forget Haye. Haye's nothing but a blowhard, asking for title shots he doesn't deserve, and mysteriously dropping out of "Klitschko-less" fights.
But why not Thompson? I like Thompson for both Fury AND Wilder. C'mon! How much longer are we going to wait until we expect both these big bangers to "shit or get off the pot"? I agree that Fury and Wilder shouldn't face each other yet. Assuming they both continue to develop and get a few more W's under their belts, there's a potential big-money fight to be made, with lots of fan interest.
David Price tried Thompson twice, to his credit. Unfortunately, that didn't do much for Price's career. But that just says that Price would've gotten KO'ed down the line..... if not by Thompson then by somebody else.
Thompson wants Fury..... Fury's handlers want to keep him busy..... no one else is available right now.
So what's the holdup??
The holdup with Fury is that his handlers don't believe everything Fury says. They don't believe Tyson is the greatest fighter ever or a man and warrior beyond compare. They think that a fight with Thompson might be too heavy a load.
Fury will get his act together and get back on track 2014 and will easily beat Thompson.
Hes having a warm up in February. Who would that be?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Maybe Price;D
I'm not sure fat Mick will risk Thompson for what amounts to very little interest and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Tysons plan was to get the small end of a massive purse fighting Haye, then pick up one or two fights with Chis & co. domestically, then retire and make way for Hughie.
The only money plan Tyson has got now is to get Fat Mick to negotiate with Dodgy Frank and fight Chis, by no means a foregone conclusion. If he beats Chis again, all well and good, he can then make Klit overtures but fat Mick will definitely keep him away from Wilder, poor opponents or not.
Got to hand it to Thompson, he's damn near retired one of our best 'prospects' in David Price and has the man who hid from David Price running scared.
Fury wouldnt have had the trouble Chisora did with Chisoras last few opponents. Chisora has run his course progression wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomI'm not sure fat Mick will risk Thompson for what amounts to very little interest and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Tysons plan was to get the small end of a massive purse fighting Haye, then pick up one or two fights with Chis & co. domestically, then retire and make way for Hughie.
The only money plan Tyson has got now is to get Fat Mick to negotiate with Dodgy Frank and fight Chis, by no means a foregone conclusion. If he beats Chis again, all well and good, he can then make Klit overtures but fat Mick will definitely keep him away from Wilder, poor opponents or not.
Got to hand it to Thompson, he's damn near retired one of our best 'prospects' in David Price and has the man who hid from David Price running scared.
Chisora unlike Fury really has "no fear", can you imagine Tyson Fury lasting 12 rounds with Vitali? Del boy would fight Wilder tommorow, Fury wouldn't. Fury won't fight Thompson because he is too dangerous. After the likes of Haye, Scott and Vitali Chisora would have no such second thoughts and would actually be taking a step back to fight Fury.Quote:
Originally Posted by rossFury wouldnt have had the trouble Chisora did with Chisoras last few opponents. Chisora has run his course progression wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomI'm not sure fat Mick will risk Thompson for what amounts to very little interest and money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Tysons plan was to get the small end of a massive purse fighting Haye, then pick up one or two fights with Chis & co. domestically, then retire and make way for Hughie.
The only money plan Tyson has got now is to get Fat Mick to negotiate with Dodgy Frank and fight Chis, by no means a foregone conclusion. If he beats Chis again, all well and good, he can then make Klit overtures but fat Mick will definitely keep him away from Wilder, poor opponents or not.
Got to hand it to Thompson, he's damn near retired one of our best 'prospects' in David Price and has the man who hid from David Price running scared.