Thompson wants to fight Fury

[Silkeyjoe]

Fury isnt a big puncher at heavy, at any level. Rarely has he one punched KOd anyone, even at the lower levels. Obviously given his size he has enough power to earn fighters respect but his KOs generally come from landing a lot of shots rather then one big one. Cunninghams KO seemed to come from sheer exhaustion of having a 7 foot monster lean on him for several rounds.

To talk of Fury as world class or a world beater at the moment is silly. He is a prospect. I doubt he will be that good and feel he will lose to the first genuine class heavyweight he fights. Ross disagrees and thinks he will be champ. Ross will also argue that Johnson and Cunningham are genuine class heavyweights where I will argue Johnson is shit and Cunningham is not going to beat a genusine heavyweight (again Adamek is not a genuine heavyweight).

Time will tell who is right and who is wrong but I dont think Fury will be fighting a genuine threat for a few years still. Id like to see him fight Chisora again and David Price but unlikely to happen. Also with all the shite he talks Id like to see him fight Wlad but I know he wont get in a ring with him.

But yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title

He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win

Deffinitly not a heavyweight

Again it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.

You said hes not a heavyweight?

If he can beat heavyweight fighters up better than other top heavyweights surely he must be a heavyweight? Or maybe the fighters he facing arent genuine heavies?

Maybe that fat blob Arreola should lose weight and be a cruiser. He doesnt look as muscled as Cunningham and Cunningham is ripped at 210lb. Arreola has no muscle on him. Same as Stiverne, just bloated.

These two contesting the WBC heavyweight title could well be the fattest title fight ever

No I said hes not a genuine heavyweight. He would still be a crusier if he could get decent paydays at that weight. Dont get me wrong he has been a good heavyweight fighter especially considering his size disadvantage. Hes washed up now anyway imo.

He was 217lb and solid when he beat Arreola. You do realise a heavyweight is any fighter over 200lb right? Its only recently been that way as well. Cruiser used to be 190lb just a few years ago.

The greatest heavyweight ever was lighter than 217lb in his pomp...

Is he not a genuine heavy?

Or are you just talking shit based on what some fighters now weigh?

Yes I am comparing him to modern day heavyweights, not past heavyweights who were much smaller. If you want to argue that go to the other threads on it.

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Fury isnt a big puncher at heavy, at any level. Rarely has he one punched KOd anyone, even at the lower levels. Obviously given his size he has enough power to earn fighters respect but his KOs generally come from landing a lot of shots rather then one big one. Cunninghams KO seemed to come from sheer exhaustion of having a 7 foot monster lean on him for several rounds.

To talk of Fury as world class or a world beater at the moment is silly. He is a prospect. I doubt he will be that good and feel he will lose to the first genuine class heavyweight he fights. Ross disagrees and thinks he will be champ. Ross will also argue that Johnson and Cunningham are genuine class heavyweights where I will argue Johnson is shit and Cunningham is not going to beat a genusine heavyweight (again Adamek is not a genuine heavyweight).

Time will tell who is right and who is wrong but I dont think Fury will be fighting a genuine threat for a few years still. Id like to see him fight Chisora again and David Price but unlikely to happen. Also with all the shite he talks Id like to see him fight Wlad but I know he wont get in a ring with him.

But yet he can batter the fighter who will be contesting Vitalis title

He also finished Travis Walker quicker than Lucas Browne and Mike Perez and Pulev could only manage a points win

Deffinitly not a heavyweight

Again it shows you know so little about boxing. Just because one fighter finished a fighter quicker then another that doesnt mean he is a bigger puncher. Fury went the distance with McDermot and then beat him in 9. He was beaten in 1 by Skelton. Aka Skelton is a monster puncher compared to Fury.

You said hes not a heavyweight?

If he can beat heavyweight fighters up better than other top heavyweights surely he must be a heavyweight? Or maybe the fighters he facing arent genuine heavies?

Maybe that fat blob Arreola should lose weight and be a cruiser. He doesnt look as muscled as Cunningham and Cunningham is ripped at 210lb. Arreola has no muscle on him. Same as Stiverne, just bloated.

These two contesting the WBC heavyweight title could well be the fattest title fight ever

No I said hes not a genuine heavyweight. He would still be a crusier if he could get decent paydays at that weight. Dont get me wrong he has been a good heavyweight fighter especially considering his size disadvantage. Hes washed up now anyway imo.

He was 217lb and solid when he beat Arreola. You do realise a heavyweight is any fighter over 200lb right? Its only recently been that way as well. Cruiser used to be 190lb just a few years ago.

The greatest heavyweight ever was lighter than 217lb in his pomp...

Is he not a genuine heavy?

Or are you just talking shit based on what some fighters now weigh?

Yes I am comparing him to modern day heavyweights, not past heavyweights who were much smaller. If you want to argue that go to the other threads on it.

So at what weight is the cut off for "genuine" heavyweights?

[Silkeyjoe]

No weight. A genuine heavyweight is one whos fought there all his career or who moved up because he couldnt make the lower weight anymore. Would you call Mayweather a genuine MW just because he could make 160?

Genuine is probably the wrong word, natural HW.

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No weight. A genuine heavyweight is one whos fought there all his career or who moved up because he couldnt make the lower weight anymore. Would you call Mayweather a genuine MW just because he could make 160?

Genuine is probably the wrong word, natural HW.

Would you say Chris Arreola is a genuine 250lb fighter? What should so eones genuine weight be? What should there genuine body fat percentage be to get to their genuine weight?

I think you are getting confused. There are genuine heavyweights and then there are big heavyweights.

Heavyweight is the only weight division with no cap so you will get big fighters in that weight, whereas if Floyd did fight at middle, his opponent could only weigh up to 160lb.

If Adamek can fight, look in shape at 217lb, beat up, stop earlier etc genuine heavyweights then he is a fucking genuine heavyweight!

Muhammed ali was a genuine heavyweight. He would not compete at cruiser today but Adamek weighed more than he did and was in shape!

Arreola will soon be fighting for the WBC title against little fatty Stiverne. Adamek probably beats the both of them and hes not a genuine heavy!

[Silkeyjoe]

No weight. A genuine heavyweight is one whos fought there all his career or who moved up because he couldnt make the lower weight anymore. Would you call Mayweather a genuine MW just because he could make 160?

Genuine is probably the wrong word, natural HW.

Would you say Chris Arreola is a genuine 250lb fighter? What should so eones genuine weight be? What should there genuine body fat percentage be to get to their genuine weight?

I think you are getting confused. There are genuine heavyweights and then there are big heavyweights.

Heavyweight is the only weight division with no cap so you will get big fighters in that weight, whereas if Floyd did fight at middle, his opponent could only weigh up to 160lb.

If Adamek can fight, look in shape at 217lb, beat up, stop earlier etc genuine heavyweights then he is a fucking genuine heavyweight!

Muhammed ali was a genuine heavyweight. He would not compete at cruiser today but Adamek weighed more than he did and was in shape!

Arreola will soon be fighting for the WBC title against little fatty Stiverne. Adamek probably beats the both of them and hes not a genuine heavy!

I doubt very much Arreola beats either of them judging by his latest performances.

I would think Ali would fight at Cruiser for at least some of his career if he was around nowadays

[Silkeyjoe]

Ross you are delusional. A fit Chisora would be Furys toughest test. It would be a near 50:50 fight in my opinion and if I could get 7/4 ish I'd back him. Furys progression hasn't been as good as you think. He looked poor against Cunningham so all your judgement is from one fight against Johnson who judgin from his performance before and after the fight is not anything close to a top fighter.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Some of u dudes are funny.. those of u who are picking a "fit" chisora over fury are the sames ones who picked an unfit chisora over fury few years back on the saddo league... how u gonna explain that?

Im one of the very few players who picked Fury to beat chisora on the saddoleague..

Fury needs a real fight..

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Some of u dudes are funny.. those of u who are picking a "fit" chisora over fury are the sames ones who picked an unfit chisora over fury few years back on the saddo league... how u gonna explain that?

Im one of the very few players who picked Fury to beat chisora on the saddoleague..

Fury needs a real fight..

I agree but I wont begrudge him a warm up to get back in the groove. He was getting some good momentum going until Haye butted in.

[Silkeyjoe]

Some of u dudes are funny.. those of u who are picking a "fit" chisora over fury are the sames ones who picked an unfit chisora over fury few years back on the saddo league... how u gonna explain that?

Im one of the very few players who picked Fury to beat chisora on the saddoleague..

Fury needs a real fight..

I agree but I wont begrudge him a warm up to get back in the groove. He was getting some good momentum going until Haye butted in.

U are right he needs a tune up fight. But only if he will be active. No point of him having 2 or 3 fights against bums. I'd like an easy fight February. Chisora in April or May and given a victory there then either a title shot or a title eliminator. I picked Chisora to win in the first fight before the weigh in. Then I changed my mind. I don't see how thinking a fit Chisora will cause Fury trouble is silly the level of Furys competition has been low and he hasn't been impressive. Just because someone's fights are entertaining doesn't make him a top fighter. To be fair a fit Fury against a fit Chisora could be a cracking fight.

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Some of u dudes are funny.. those of u who are picking a "fit" chisora over fury are the sames ones who picked an unfit chisora over fury few years back on the saddo league... how u gonna explain that?

Im one of the very few players who picked Fury to beat chisora on the saddoleague..

Fury needs a real fight..

I agree but I wont begrudge him a warm up to get back in the groove. He was getting some good momentum going until Haye butted in.

U are right he needs a tune up fight. But only if he will be active. No point of him having 2 or 3 fights against bums. I'd like an easy fight February. Chisora in April or May and given a victory there then either a title shot or a title eliminator. I picked Chisora to win in the first fight before the weigh in. Then I changed my mind. I don't see how thinking a fit Chisora will cause Fury trouble is silly the level of Furys competition has been low and he hasn't been impressive. Just because someone's fights are entertaining doesn't make him a top fighter. To be fair a fit Fury against a fit Chisora could be a cracking fight.

Like fuck!

At the point he beat Cunningham he had done more than any other heavy in the top ten over the previous year!

He beat a fighter that took Vitali 12 and another who had beaten Huck (who hurt and was unlcky not to get a decision over Povetkin) and was robbed against Adamek who beat up Arreola.

[FinitoElDinamita]

Some of u dudes are funny.. those of u who are picking a "fit" chisora over fury are the sames ones who picked an unfit chisora over fury few years back on the saddo league... how u gonna explain that?

Im one of the very few players who picked Fury to beat chisora on the saddoleague..

Fury needs a real fight..

I agree but I wont begrudge him a warm up to get back in the groove. He was getting some good momentum going until Haye butted in.

Lucas Browne Responds To Tyson Fury Challenge - Boxing News

Browne is the perfect tune up.. and he promises to show up to the fight instead faking injuries like haye..