Actor, Philip Seymour Hoffman passed away of apparent drug overdose

OD eyed in Philip Seymour Hoffman death | New York Post

That's rough, he was a really good actor from what I've seen. I really liked Capote, and even his role in the Talented mr. Ripley was great.

That's a shame. He had the needle in his arm when they found him. Rehab really hurts heroine users because when they go and attempt to get clean their tolerance goes down and then they try the same doses they were used to taking and it kills them....same thing happened to Sid Vicious.


Well so when 1 celeb takes the dirt nap 2 usually follow....who are you betting on???

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0t0EW6z8a0

he looks older than 46. Was he in Mission Impossible 2?

He also was the female lead role in titanic according to Peter Griffin.

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He also recently did a movie called The Master. He players a character that was based on L. Ron Hubbard. The movie was slow but I thought he was excellent. I don't know much about Dianetics but the movie portrayed the formation of the cult or whatever it is. Despite watching the movie I still know nothing about Diantetics. Still, Hoffman was great in it.

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he looks older than 46. Was he in Mission Impossible 2?

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He also recently did a movie called The Master. He players a character that was based on L. Ron Hubbard. The movie was slow but I thought he was excellent. I don't know much about Dianetics but the movie portrayed the formation of the cult or whatever it is. Despite watching the movie I still know nothing about Diantetics. Still, Hoffman was great in it.

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I liked that film. The scene when they're in jail was fantastic. Hoffman static while Phoenix is going mental smashing up his cell. Brilliant.

Money life style, but drugs fuck you up simple fact in life, actor or not as adults you no the
risk of drugs, remember people he made the choice of putting that shit into his body.!
In the fame game he will be one more to add to the list, who have died before there time
but as we all no he will not be the last.:(

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Money life style, but drugs fuck you up simple fact in life, actor or not as adults you no the
risk of drugs, remember people he made the choice of putting that shit into his body.!
In the fame game he will be one more to add to the list, who have died before there time
but as we all no he will not be the last.:(

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Not sure he died before his time. He was a drug addict. He was a great performer. He's dead.

I don't see any difference between him and the thousands of drug addicts that will die today who are labled "low lifes."

Whether you have millions or not a pot to piss in, you are seeking the same escape when using drugs. Which includes booze. One man is a genius, the other is a fool, they both do the same thing. Humans.

Hoffman was one of the very few serious actors in today's Hollywood. He was extremely good.

With that said, drugs are beneficial to artists cuz it helps them think outside the box and really get into it.. some of you might disagree with this notion but it's only true and as a person who is involved in the industry, I see it all the time.

Even in places like Korea where little marijuana usage is considered as a huge offense, most artists, mainly the singers smoke weed and do heroine. Often times their manager would encourage them to get high before recording sessions..

Beethoven and Mozart were on opium when did created their masterpieces..

Ive played the piano for the longest time and I can tell you first hand that I play much better when im high.. I dont smoke no more btw..

Drugs make a better artist... it doesnt apply for all artists but there is a reason why so many of them areinto it..

Hey Finito, I also have some experience in the subject, I disagree that drugs truly help in any endeavor. I think they actually bring you away from your true self. For many people they do lessen inhibitions but this could be achieved naturally but it takes effort. In the end, for many, drugs stiffen creativity. Don't get me wrong, I am not coming at this from a tea totalers point of view, just expressing years of observation.

Thats messed up and very unfortunate, more so for his two sons. I wish the endless stream of news anchors and arm chair treatment specialist who spill out everytime some millionaire addict dies would also take the time to do career bios of every Joe Sixpack everyman and highlight the struggle. In the span of 15 minutes we heard some jackass say 'drugs only take our best and brightest' and then call heroin addiction almost the same as a incurable and terminal cancer. That is horse shit and a slap in the face to survivors. More so as a celebrity the avenues and assets are there for treatment, the very best of in and out patient programs but it boils down to the individual and the follow through they are willing to commit to. You can have a million dollars but the fork in the road is the power to starve an addiction with it, or feed it. Without cash you buy crack, not powder. Drugs and creativity I'm not so sure about. I used to buy into that with ganja and lsd but the creativity of doing cannot reduce to sitting in a room and looking forward to pulling faces and cartoons out of the "breathing walls" and colors you can taste. Anyway, another story all together :-X

I don't think there's any doubt that drugs "CAN" spark creativity in some artists, but I don't think it's a good trade off considering all the potential great art that hard drugs have snuffed out over the years.

I don't think it applies to Mr. Hoffman though. From what I read, he went to rehab for drug addiction in May 2013 after he fell off the wagon following 23 years of sobriety. So if that's accurate, all of Hoffman's great work was done without the use of hard narcotics (I don't lump alcohol and weed into the catagory of "hard narcotics").

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he looks older than 46. Was he in Mission Impossible 2?

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He also recently did a movie called The Master. He players a character that was based on L. Ron Hubbard. The movie was slow but I thought he was excellent. I don't know much about Dianetics but the movie portrayed the formation of the cult or whatever it is. Despite watching the movie I still know nothing about Diantetics. Still, Hoffman was great in it.

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Yeah that film was strange....interesting but really really odd.


As for drugs sparking some creativity in artists, yeah drugs can help you find a muse, but they should not become a crutch nor should they be held on high (pardon the pun) as the sole reason for great art. Plenty of people site drug use for helping them portray better what is in their mind's eye by helping the artists shed inhibitions, but in the end the drug only helped you get to a comfortable (or uncomfortable depending who you are and what you do) state of being.

I have found the use of certain substances helpful in various tasks be it dealing with the mundane world, painting, sports, appreciating art, what have you...I've also found those substances a hindrance on specific tasks as well.

what's the difference between one more dead junkie in Hollywood, and one more dead junkie in a boarded up house in Middlesbrough or Detroit?

About a million sanctimonious bullshit posts on the internet

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He went out in style and at a very decent intermediary age. Most will die with a heart attack or a stroke and he went out looking for heroin heaven. It's sad that he is dead as he was a good actor, but the media is harping on about it a bit much.

Thing is X has a point, he is totally correct junkie is a junkie I no seen many parents
crying over there children, as they lay them to rest.
Yes drugs drink you name it,! it's sad I tell you see your kid in a wooden box, in some crematorium,
or a hole in the ground. The child you brought up, people would never believe it would end this way,
the amount of this type of thing I see time and time again.
There is a say there for the grace of god go I ,it could because the thing you choice can fuck your
life up, seen many people do that, and no doubt I will see many more.!:(

Heroin is apparently coming back big in the States and around the world, and I have no fucking clue why. It has the most unglamorous, disgusting image out of any drug. I can understand cocaine, because you kind of associate that with partying and also to rich and successful people.

Heroin has such a dirty image, of skinny dopers injecting needles into an arm covered with infected sores - looking like it has gangrene - in some dirty alleyway or a messy dope den. And it has the distinction of snuffing out so many artists over the years.

I have no idea what would tempt someone to use heroin, unless you hate yourself and have a death wish.

And as far as artists go, there's NOTHING that heroin can do for creativity that marijuana, LSD or another psychedelic drug can't. I just don't buy that.

When people talk about being creative on drugs, I find that talk gibberish. Drugs let you have a unique time and that is it. It certainly has little meaning for a job where you need your timing, poise, and discipline. All drugs take away discipline. Drugs are for kicks.

I am not against drugs in the slightest. To use heroin is no different to using other drugs. Just as long as the supply is maintained then your quality of life shall remain. Life is ponzi schemes everywhere else, why discriminate against heroin, and especially, if it is someone who can afford it? Drugs are only bad when it becomes crime and breaking into peoples homes.

In fact the US government itself is guarding poppy fields these days in Afghanistan and oh so coincidentally, America has an H epidemic.

I will say this about PSH, he (no matter how shitty the movie was and he was in a few that weren't great) but he was ALWAYS good in films. He was one of the best actors in Hollywood, he never played Philip Seymour Hoffman, he played roles and he did so wonderfully like Gary Oldman does.


As for heroine, half of the medicine we're fed is synthetic heroine Oxycontin, Oxycodone, Percocet, etc. It's no wonder people find themselves addicted to it.

I dabbled in some illicit drugs during my youth, but I NEVER saw the appeal of shooting anything...you don't see people in the old age homes who have track marks from their time as a user (bar the obviously undead/vampire Keith Richards). People will shoot up coke or meth or heroine or a mixture of them....it's ridiculous and I don't see any reason why? Chris Farley OD'd on a speedball which is heroine and cocaine which is apparently supposed to send your heart on a rollercoaster ride of speeding up and slowing down....how is that fun? How can you function doing shit like that? How can you interact with people on a daily basis when you're on or off of that? That kind of thing frightened me and I'm glad it has because I don't think I'd survive that kind of shit.

Some drugs once they get their hooks in you don't let go until they drag you under.

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When people talk about being creative on drugs, I find that talk gibberish.

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That's been my experience as well, although I've only used marijuana and psychedelic drugs.

In my experience, you think the many ideas you get are good, but when you come back down you realize it was just garbage.

I think the results could be achieved without the narcotics.

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Heroin is apparently coming back big in the States and around the world, and I have no fucking clue why. It has the most unglamorous, disgusting image out of any drug. I can understand cocaine, because you kind of associate that with partying and also to rich and successful people.

Heroin has such a dirty image, of skinny dopers injecting needles into an arm covered with infected sores - looking like it has gangrene - in some dirty alleyway or a messy dope den. And it has the distinction of snuffing out so many artists over the years.

I have no idea what would tempt someone to use heroin, unless you hate yourself and have a death wish.

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You are right but the dirty image stuff but it's because heroine gives you the ultimate high that is better than sex according to a lot of users. It's the best high they say..

Ive never done it but I can see why people would get hooked on it instantly.. shoot it through ur veins and imagine that rush straight to the dome.

Ive done coke back in the days but I didnt like it.. it just gets me real paranoid and hostile.. I hate that feeling.

The reason why people get hooked on heroine is not because the high is so super amazing it's because coming off of heroine is a fucking nightmare

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U speakin from experience? I just remembered how H was decribed to me in detail by this one chick.. I dont know if u tried ecstacy, but she said iit's like E x10.... that's pretty intense

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U speakin from experience? I just remembered how H was decribed to me in detail by this one chick.. I dont know if u tried ecstacy, but she said iit's like E x10.... that's pretty intense

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All I've ever had opiate based has been prescribed to me, I don't fuck around with the kind of shit that can and will kill me or sink it's hooks deep into me.


Have you ever heard stories of people detoxing off of heroin? The withdrawals they suffer? It's scary enough that I won't tempt my fate with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nk9dwsEC_o

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he looks older than 46. Was he in Mission Impossible 2?

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Actually, it was MI-III, and I remember thinking how I wasn't used to seeing him in that kind of villain role. He was more of a comedic actor to me. Although I thought he did a great job in Moneyball, portraying Art Howe as the Oakland Athletics' manager. All in all a very busy actor. One of those familiar faces that came out in just about every other film that would come out.

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The reason why people get hooked on heroine is not because the high is so super amazing it's because coming off of heroine is a fucking nightmare

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U speakin from experience? I just remembered how H was decribed to me in detail by this one chick.. I dont know if u tried ecstacy, but she said iit's like E x10.... that's pretty intense

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My uncle told me that he had three hard runs with heroin, and that the pain of kicking is worth it, the high is so good. I had another good friend that I sat with while he kicked on two occasions and, as soon as he was up and around again, he got high. Because it is GOOD, he told me.
I hear that kicking methadone is harder than heroin.

Heroin is the perfect feeling. Nirvana, spiritual, better than an orgasm, everyone should try it.

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I don't think there's any doubt that drugs "CAN" spark creativity in some artists, but I don't think it's a good trade off considering all the potential great art that hard drugs have snuffed out over the years.

I don't think it applies to Mr. Hoffman though. From what I read, he went to rehab for drug addiction in May 2013 after he fell off the wagon following 23 years of sobriety. So if that's accurate, all of Hoffman's great work was done without the use of hard narcotics (I don't lump alcohol and weed into the catagory of "hard narcotics").

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Depends on what drug and the personalities you are in company of and the atmosphere situation at hand.
Herion has you laying back like you are in safe pink cloud more suited to cruising but you can get right into stuff on a very deep level,even chess.
Coke levels up and pinging out in your zone.
Gunja imaginative but can be suppressing and create anxiousness. Mixed with alcohol can create the reverse so long as its Gunja first, drink second;they dont work so well the other way around unless you like feeling sea sick.

It's a cause and effect thing as far as drugs lending to artistic endeavours, I tend to agree it's a bit silly to make a direct correlation, no matter how many names you can drop. Many great artists have the disposition, but are able to handle their demons and not become addicts. Many people are very talented and artistically inclined, but allow drugs to completely ruin their chances of doing anything. A lot of drug addicts have no real aptitude for anything creative. All of these brackets vastly outnumber the great artists who also kill themselves via drugs demographic, I suspect.