Simple solution to the problem: Withhold Malik Scott's purse
I don't know what Malik Scott was supposed to earn from that fight. But here's a novel idea: WITHHOLD HIS PURSE.
Haven't read Word One about this yet... and I'm not sure it will happen. But here's someone trying to overanalyze the KO and claim it was legit:
GIF: Deontay Wilder knocks out Malik Scott, but did the punches really land? - Bad Left Hook
Advice to the author of the piece: Don't overanalyze it. No matter how much super slo-mo is used, it's clear the left was not a KO punch.... and the right didn't even land.
But everyone immediately cries "FIX", when in reality there are TWO possibilities:
FIX.... or FEAR
To me, "fix" is where the result is preordained by a 3rd party, to satisfy some ulterior motives outside of the ring itself. The "diver" gets paid for his troubles.... and he knows what he's supposed to do. Whereas "fear" is exactly that. Fear is what Bruce Seldon showed in his fight against Mike Tyson. Tyson barely grazed Seldon's head with one of his bombs..... and Seldon immediately looked for a soft place to land. Then he got up all "groggy" and shit and played the hurt part perfectly. IMO..... Scott's case was probably more "fear" than "fix". Didn't they mention that Scott had been dropped in sparring with Wilder previously? So if that's correct..... then Scott already knew that Wilder packs a punch.
But "fix" or "fear"...... don't matter. Withhold the guy's purse, because that was a shameful act in a boxing ring..... and he denied a paying crowd from seeing an honest effort from a professional boxer.
We were all mostly hoping for a competitive fight from Scott, so we could at least gauge Wilder's potential a little better. But instead we got nothing. At least the next fight promises to be the REAL test....... finally. Either Arreola or Stiverne should put up an honest effort against Wilder, unlike Malik.
Re: Simple solution to the problem: Withhold Malik Scott's purse
Hard to withhold it when it was payed up front ;D But yeh, it should be looked at but they won't. I remember Bert Cooper withheld vs Foreman but compared his body was near broke in half. This was a complete hoodwink on the fans.
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Other fights like Tyson v Seldon at least the glove touched their heads!
Watching this was a joke! Even Wilder couldnt stop that stupid embarrased grin straight after.
Scott was with it as he went down. Watch his eyes.
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=jws9K_RTCy4
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Spicoli
Hard to withhold it when it was payed up front ;D But yeh, it should be looked at but they won't. I remember Bert Cooper withheld vs Foreman but compared his body was near broke in half. This was a complete hoodwink on the fans.
They paid him upfront? Whoa! Then it surely was a fix...
:o
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I really disagree here. Scott was hit right on the temple with a punch he blinded himself to a decently leveraged left hook from a big strong guy. The right hand missed. The right hand didn't knock him out either. To deny Scott a payday would be criminal, literally. Scott has always been a serious, serious dude. He got hit around the gloves with a left hook from a guy 4 inches bigger than him. You can't convince me that wasn't an honest effort. Scott has never been the "opponent" type and I don't think he willingly did anything last night. I think a good shot knocked the guy out. Showtime had an angle not shown in the article that shows Scott with the muffs on trying to pick off what he thinks is a jab, blinding himself and having a left hook land right around the gloves on the temple. I just can't get on board with this talk.
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This is a dangerous thing to do and start taking boxers purse because you think they did not try hard enough.
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How many other 1st round KOs does Wilder have? It's not abnormal for him to level his opponents in a minute or two.
Boxing fans are becoming such whiny bitches!
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ruthless rocco
How many other 1st round KOs does Wilder have? It's not abnormal for him to level his opponents in a minute or two.
Boxing fans are becoming such whiny bitches!
True... but going down on that punch was some sucker shit. jmo...
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ruthless rocco
How many other 1st round KOs does Wilder have? It's not abnormal for him to level his opponents in a minute or two.
Boxing fans are becoming such whiny bitches!
Your use of the word "opponents" is at best kind, and at worst downright laughable. Chumps is more like it. Or are you going to defend Wilder's list of previous victims with a straight face? Didn't think so.....
Malik was supposed to be a significant step UP. What happened was shameful. You can wish to see a "real" punch all you want, but fact of the matter is there wasn't one there.
On your final point.... everyone that disagrees with you is a "whiny bitch". If you wish to be taken seriously, argue like an adult, instead of resorting to...... well..... how else to put this...... "whiny-bitch-type" insults, which just make you look like........ well....... the very "whiny bitch" you so vehemently decry.
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Its not the first dodgy hard right thumb to the ear that earned him a 1st round ko...beast this one
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ao7JZkUySuo
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That's a fantastic idea, lets punish the guy that got knocked out because he didn't provide the spectacle we expected. We have no evidence whatsoever that it was a fix, but maybe he quit through fear, which obviously deserves the gallows.
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Fenster
That's a fantastic idea, lets punish the guy that got knocked out because he didn't provide the spectacle we expected. We have no evidence whatsoever that it was a fix, but maybe he quit through fear, which obviously deserves the gallows.
On the contrary, let's reward Scott for a fantastic, competitive showing by giving him a shot at a title.
Dare we say "PPV"?
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Fenster
That's a fantastic idea, lets punish the guy that got knocked out because he didn't provide the spectacle we expected. We have no evidence whatsoever that it was a fix, but maybe he quit through fear, which obviously deserves the gallows.
On the contrary, let's reward Scott for a fantastic, competitive showing by giving him a shot at a title.
Dare we say "PPV"?
What title shot is he getting?
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Fenster
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TitoFan
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Fenster
That's a fantastic idea, lets punish the guy that got knocked out because he didn't provide the spectacle we expected. We have no evidence whatsoever that it was a fix, but maybe he quit through fear, which obviously deserves the gallows.
On the contrary, let's reward Scott for a fantastic, competitive showing by giving him a shot at a title.
Dare we say "PPV"?
What title shot is he getting?
Who cares? Leapfrog the bastard. After that sterling performance, he merits rewarding.
Don't you think?
After all...... you didn't like the first idea.
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TitoFan
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Fenster
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TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
That's a fantastic idea, lets punish the guy that got knocked out because he didn't provide the spectacle we expected. We have no evidence whatsoever that it was a fix, but maybe he quit through fear, which obviously deserves the gallows.
On the contrary, let's reward Scott for a fantastic, competitive showing by giving him a shot at a title.
Dare we say "PPV"?
What title shot is he getting?
Who cares? Leapfrog the bastard. After that sterling performance, he merits rewarding.
Don't you think?
After all...... you didn't like the
first idea.
So are you now saying Scott is not getting a title shot on the back of that performance? It's a bit unclear.
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Fenster
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TitoFan
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Fenster
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Originally Posted by
TitoFan
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
That's a fantastic idea, lets punish the guy that got knocked out because he didn't provide the spectacle we expected. We have no evidence whatsoever that it was a fix, but maybe he quit through fear, which obviously deserves the gallows.
On the contrary, let's reward Scott for a fantastic, competitive showing by giving him a shot at a title.
Dare we say "PPV"?
What title shot is he getting?
Who cares? Leapfrog the bastard. After that sterling performance, he merits rewarding.
Don't you think?
After all...... you didn't like the
first idea.
So are you now saying Scott is not getting a title shot on the back of that performance? It's a bit unclear.
Try to stay with me, sport. It was likely fear that kept the man down. According to you, he deserves the gallows. Of course, you're being sarcastic ('cause that's what you do), which means you think he deserves kudos for his performance. Follow me so far? So to be agreeable, I carry it a step further and say he deserves a title shot, preferably PPV (answering sarcasm with sarcasm). Then, in a state of faked confusion, you inquire as to what title shot he is getting. Which just gets us right back where we started, which is to say Scott turned in a pitiful, shameful performance and decided to stay down..... which IMO warrants him getting some sort of punishment. You obviously disagree, which means you're wrong. Not that there's any shame in that.
Hope this helps.
Re: Simple solution to the problem: Withhold Malik Scott's purse
im assuming that he was at least legitimately hurt since he has never shown anything like this throughout his whole career. maybe he could have gotten up but maybe after feeling his power he decided that he was just going to get KO'd anyways so he stayed down. i dont know.
as long as it isnt a audley harrison thing to where he keeps getting fights even after obvious blown fights.
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If it was a fix which I doubt , then im sure there will be an investigation , I just think Scott was shit scared like Bruce Seldon v Tyson.
Id just like Wilder to be in a FIGHT then we can judge him fairly.
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Dark Lord Al
If it was a fix which I doubt , then im sure there will be an investigation , I just think Scott was shit scared like Bruce Seldon v Tyson.
Id just like Wilder to be in a FIGHT then we can judge him fairly.
i think wilder can be fairly judged on this fight
most expected scott to take him a few rounds at least, land a few punches
wilder proved he hits far too hard for a decent HW like scott
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Dark Lord Al
If it was a fix which I doubt , then im sure there will be an investigation , I just think Scott was shit scared like Bruce Seldon v Tyson.
Id just like Wilder to be in a FIGHT then we can judge him fairly.
i think wilder can be fairly judged on this fight
most expected scott to take him a few rounds at least, land a few punches
wilder proved he hits far too hard for a decent HW like scott
But not quite hard enough to stop a even decenter HW like Firtha in the first round?
;D
