Manny's style is so aggressive he'll walk into the helicopter blades and get KO'd. This much I know.
Floyd is TBE, the p4p money king of boxing, and we will retire undefeated.
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Manny's style is so aggressive he'll walk into the helicopter blades and get KO'd. This much I know.
Floyd is TBE, the p4p money king of boxing, and we will retire undefeated.
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
One of the worst OP's ever.
You are so right Ghandi, everyone is entitled to an opinion but the op needs meds
I know, Walrus. I know.
When this is all over, we will know. We will know.
You dummies, I'm not giving you an opinion I'm giving you a glimpse into the future! ;D
Great betting advice too.
Poor pactards hahah ;D:cool:
I woudn't be surprised if Floyd switch hits in this. If JMM can do it with one punch, Floyd can too, but will he be in position? I think Floyd will be way too cautious against a Pac left. He has reason.
Manny should come in and fight orthodox to throw Floyd off his game. It worked for Rocky.
It didn't work for Hagler...Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
If this were 5 years ago I would agree with this because Pac would have been more careless. After the Marquez KO, he will be too cautious and will just lose a decision.
Mayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
You and p4pking are co-managers? :oQuote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Nobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
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Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Marciano did it better, and in half the time. Keep those lips flapping, bro.
Against who though? Bums, fatboys, and washed up former greats. Rocky only fought a couple real opponents. I mean fuck man if you wanna bring up just anyone who is undefeated why not mention Sven Ottke while we're at it?Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedMarciano did it better, and in half the time. Keep those lips flapping, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Gummon bro
Finito Lopez did it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Marciano did it better, and in half the time. Keep those lips flapping, bro.
For sure but Finito Lopez was no Money Mayweather. Different class of skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Finito Lopez did it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedMarciano did it better, and in half the time. Keep those lips flapping, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
once again if mediocre fighters like chop chop Corley could hurt Mayweather when the was in his prime then imagine what Manny Pacquiao can do to Floyd now that he is 38 years old
Not sure I agree with your last statement. Finito was extremely skilled, just unfortunate to not have the available competition Mayweather does/did.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerFor sure but Finito Lopez was no Money Mayweather. Different class of skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Finito Lopez did it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedMarciano did it better, and in half the time. Keep those lips flapping, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
THIS. Marciano did it like a King. Floyd is doing it like a primadonna princess in double the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Marciano did it better, and in half the time. Keep those lips flapping, bro.
Finito was extremely skilled, Floyd is just on another level from everyoneQuote:
Originally Posted by mikeeodNot sure I agree with your last statement. Finito was extremely skilled, just unfortunate to not have the available competition Mayweather does/did.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerFor sure but Finito Lopez was no Money Mayweather. Different class of skill.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maravilla2012Finito Lopez did it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by beenKOedMarciano did it better, and in half the time. Keep those lips flapping, bro.Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
When was Bruseles top 10 :p undefeated ain't sh-t :-X take a challenge like Ali did against Liston and Foreman, Leonard with Hearns and possibly Hagler, Hopkins against Kovalev (at 50 no less) :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerNobody did it better. 18 years undefeated? 16 years fighting nothing but top 10 competition? Gummon broQuote:
Originally Posted by LinealMayweather stopping Pacquiao is a possiblity, Floyd as TBE is a joke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
The GGG threat is there, and before you start crying that Floyd is too small for 160, remember Duran started at 119 pounds.
Yeah Duran moved up to weight classes he had no business at because he was undisciplined and had the eating habits of Butterbean.Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
So you're saying Floyd has never took on a legit challenge? ;D
Your saying Bruseles was top 10 ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerYeah Duran moved up to weight classes he had no business at because he was undisciplined and had the eating habits of Butterbean.Quote:
Originally Posted by La Cucaracha
So you're saying Floyd has never took on a legit challenge? ;D
Yet Duran had the balls to face and beat the guy (Barkley) that had iced the guy that had iced him (Hearns) :D
Mayweather has never been in a fight where he was a big underdog ;)
Floyd will never be the underdog. He's TBE.
So you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Other great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
That's deeply flawed logic you're using.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd is not Armstrong or Gavilan or Napoles or Duran. He is his own fighter and his own man.
Comparing him to these fighters based solely on how high in weight he's willing to fight is stupid.
He put that TBE hat on his head not me :p You are the one that said Floyd doesn't fight at 160, like it is something to be proud off :-\ I originally posted that he needs to challenge himself and GGG is a challenge :D is Genaro Hernandez the only fight that Floyd wasn't the favorite :confused: what were the odds when Ali fought Liston or Frazier, or Hopkins vs Kovalev :confused: if you want to call yourself a great you need to be compared with the greats ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoThat's deeply flawed logic you're using.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd is not Armstrong or Gavilan or Napoles or Duran. He is his own fighter and his own man.
Comparing him to these fighters based solely on how high in weight he's willing to fight is stupid.
Over $400 million in career earnings.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaHe put that TBE hat on his head not me :p You are the one that said Floyd doesn't fight at 160, like it is something to be proud off :-\ I originally posted that he needs to challenge himself and GGG is a challenge :D is Genaro Hernandez the only fight that Floyd wasn't the favorite :confused: what were the odds when Ali fought Liston or Frazier, or Hopkins vs Kovalev :confused: if you want to call yourself a great you need to be compared with the greats ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoThat's deeply flawed logic you're using.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd is not Armstrong or Gavilan or Napoles or Duran. He is his own fighter and his own man.
Comparing him to these fighters based solely on how high in weight he's willing to fight is stupid.
47-0 record spanning 18 years as pro
Set the new standard for drug testing before fights
Self managed/promoted
Highest paid athlete in the world several years running
P4P #1 for years
Who has better stats than that?
I'm pretty sure Al Haymon is he's ManagerQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoOver $400 million in career earnings.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaHe put that TBE hat on his head not me :p You are the one that said Floyd doesn't fight at 160, like it is something to be proud off :-\ I originally posted that he needs to challenge himself and GGG is a challenge :D is Genaro Hernandez the only fight that Floyd wasn't the favorite :confused: what were the odds when Ali fought Liston or Frazier, or Hopkins vs Kovalev :confused: if you want to call yourself a great you need to be compared with the greats ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoThat's deeply flawed logic you're using.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd is not Armstrong or Gavilan or Napoles or Duran. He is his own fighter and his own man.
Comparing him to these fighters based solely on how high in weight he's willing to fight is stupid.
47-0 record spanning 18 years as pro
Set the new standard for drug testing before fights
Self managed/promoted
Highest paid athlete in the world several years running
P4P #1 for years
Who has better stats than that?
So you don't want to answer the question about GGG being the favorite :confused: many great fighters had better starts than 47-0 :p but they took challengers and didn't establish their greatness until after losing :p Zarate was 52-0 before moving up to challenge Gomez and Zarate is not even considered the best bantamweight ever ;) Benvenuti was 65-0 with a 120-0 amateur record before his first loss :D not to mention the number of hall of fame fighters other greats have fought ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoOver $400 million in career earnings.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaHe put that TBE hat on his head not me :p You are the one that said Floyd doesn't fight at 160, like it is something to be proud off :-\ I originally posted that he needs to challenge himself and GGG is a challenge :D is Genaro Hernandez the only fight that Floyd wasn't the favorite :confused: what were the odds when Ali fought Liston or Frazier, or Hopkins vs Kovalev :confused: if you want to call yourself a great you need to be compared with the greats ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoThat's deeply flawed logic you're using.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd is not Armstrong or Gavilan or Napoles or Duran. He is his own fighter and his own man.
Comparing him to these fighters based solely on how high in weight he's willing to fight is stupid.
47-0 record spanning 18 years as pro
Set the new standard for drug testing before fights
Self managed/promoted
Highest paid athlete in the world several years running
P4P #1 for years
Who has better stats than that?
All that other stuff is irrelevant :-\ sure he's been P4P number 1, whatever that's worth, it is a highly subjective mythical list after all :p but when was the last time he wasn't the favorite going in :confused: Mayweather needs to challenge himself if he wants to be considered an all time great :p
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Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd has fought guys that, at this present time, would be ranked higher on the "p4p greatest of all time" list than Glolovkin.
I love GGG but he isn't even the linear champ of his weight division, and he never beat the man at his weight division. Why is he considered a greater fighter than a guy like De la Hoya? :confused:
Who said Golovkin was a great fighter? :confused: he would be a big challenge for Floyd :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd has fought guys that, at this present time, would be ranked higher on the "p4p greatest of all time" list than Glolovkin.
I love GGG but he isn't even the linear champ of his weight division, and he never beat the man at his weight division. Why is he considered a greater fighter than a guy like De la Hoya? :confused:
You said Floyd should fight Golovkin because, and I quote, "he should be measured against other greats." That insinuates that you believe Golovkin is a great fighter. If you don't think he's a great fighter, why would Floyd fight him? According to you, greats must be measured against other greats, so fighting a non-great like GGG would be a waste of time, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaWho said Golovkin was a great fighter? :confused: he would be a big challenge for Floyd :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd has fought guys that, at this present time, would be ranked higher on the "p4p greatest of all time" list than Glolovkin.
I love GGG but he isn't even the linear champ of his weight division, and he never beat the man at his weight division. Why is he considered a greater fighter than a guy like De la Hoya? :confused:
I said :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerYou said Floyd should fight Golovkin because, and I quote, "he should be measured against other greats." That insinuates that you believe Golovkin is a great fighter. If you don't think he's a great fighter, why would Floyd fight him? According to you, greats must be measured against other greats, so fighting a non-great like GGG would be a waste of time, right?Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaWho said Golovkin was a great fighter? :confused: he would be a big challenge for Floyd :pQuote:
Originally Posted by BeanflickerQuote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaOther great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats.Quote:
Originally Posted by ruthless roccoFloyd doesn't fight at Golovkin's weight. DUMBASS!Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaSo you would favor him over Golovkin? :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
Floyd has fought guys that, at this present time, would be ranked higher on the "p4p greatest of all time" list than Glolovkin.
I love GGG but he isn't even the linear champ of his weight division, and he never beat the man at his weight division. Why is he considered a greater fighter than a guy like De la Hoya? :confused:
'Other great fighters that started at lighter weights than Floyd have competed at middleweight (Armstrong, Gavilan, Napoles, Duran) :-X Floyd claims to be TBE so he should be measured against other greats'
Where is GGG in that sentence :confused: Golovkin would be a huge risk for Floyd and previous great have taken risks and challenged themselves :p
Over $400 million in career earnings.
47-0 record spanning 18 years as pro
Set the new standard for drug testing before fights
Self managed/promoted
Highest paid athlete in the world several years running
P4P #1 for years
Who has better stats than that?
Like I said most of that stuff is irrelevant to in the ring achievements :p guys like Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Duran, Leonard didn't earn anywhere near what Floyd has but are a million times greater than Floyd will ever be :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
These are the things that make Mayweather the best ever.Quote:
Originally Posted by La CucarachaLike I said most of that stuff is irrelevant to in the ring achievements :p guys like Robinson, Armstrong, Ali, Duran, Leonard didn't earn anywhere near what Floyd has but are a million times greater than Floyd will ever be :pQuote:
Originally Posted by ruthless rocco
He has triumphed and prospered and influenced positive change in the sport in ways no one else has.