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Ward claims Froch backed out

WBA super-middleweight champion Andre Ward believes Carl Froch has backed out of fighting him and says he is not "going to wait" for him.
Ward, who won on points against Froch in 2011, says a fight between them had been set up at Wembley Stadium but was moved to the City Ground in Nottingham, which the American did not want.
Ward will fight England's Paul Smith in Oakland, USA on 20 June instead and he says it is because he "could not find Carl Froch".


BBC Sport - Carl Froch backed out of our fight - Andre Ward

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAkuzZHQlEo

Geale is confident of upsetting the odds and beating Cotto


Former IBF, WBA & IBO World Middleweight Champion Daniel “Real Deal” Geale (31-3, 16 KO’s) spoke to Media Man Brett Bonetti and UFC Heavyweight Soa “The Hulk” Palelei on the Australian radio show “Hulk Talk” today following the announcement that Geale will face WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (39-4, 32 KO’s) on June 6, for the WBC Middleweight title at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. Geale speaks about this opportunity to become the first Australian crowned as the lineal middleweight world champion, how he feels Cotto and his team are treating this fight, his keys to victory, and much more.

http://www.fightnews.com/Boxing/dani...terview-287182

radio interview below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=26&v=nKJeS1ziUek

I don't like Ward but the guy has always been honest. If Froch doesn't want the fight he doesn't want the fight. Wish, like Ward says, that Froch would just say that.

Groves may face Badou Jack in September but would rather fight on English soil


George Groves could be handed his world title shot as part of Floyd Mayweather's huge farewell fight at the MGM Grand Garden in Las Vegas this September, according to the champion Badou Jack.
Groves is the mandatory challenger for the WBC super-middleweight belt, which Jack won with a shock victory over Anthony Dirrell in Chicago last week.
That means 'The Saint' is now in line to face the Stockholm-born 31-year-old – although Groves and his team will be pushing for the fight to take place on English soil.


George Groves could challenge world champion Badou Jack on undercard of Floyd Mayweather's final fight* | Daily Mail Online




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Wilder due to fight at home in Birmingham (not Brum) Alabama on June 13th

After the heavyweight battle last weekend, between Wladimir Klitschko and Bryant Jennings saw the Ukrainian hang on to his belts quite comfortably, in New York, the US awaits the ring return of its new heavyweight hero.

After taking the WBC heavyweight belt off of Bermane Stiverne to become the new darling of the US, Deontay Wilder will be making a long awaited return to the ring on 13th June.

His first defence of his heavyweight crown will take place in Birmingham, Alabama, although at the time of writing there is no indication as to who the possible opponent might be.


Briggs? :-X

Stiverne wants a rematch

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vyBZjCge4K4




Whatever happens It looks like Wlad will fight Fury before Deontay

Mundine Trout postponed due to ear infection

Anthony Mundine has been forced to postpone his fight against American Austin Trout because of a "severe ear condition".
The WBC super welterweight bout - one of the most significant of Mundine's career - was scheduled for this Saturday in San Antonio, Texas, but the Australian boxer on Monday announced his doctors have told him he won't be able to fight.
"Mundine is suffering from a severe ear condition which doctors say will cause him serious and potentially permanent damage if he continues with the bout," a statement tweeted by Mundine said.
"The ear condition was first noticed after sparring and got progressively worse the next day during his flight to the USA.


Mundine postpones fight with Austin Trout due to ear infection - 9news.com.au




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Bradley to fight Vargas on June 27

Lost in the excitement surrounding the record-setting Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao bout on Saturday night were reports that Cathedral City's Timothy Bradley is close to stepping back in the ring for the first time since a December draw with Diego Chaves.
Bradley will face Jessie Vargas on HBO on June 27 at the StubHub Center in Carson. Though no official announcement has been made, Bradley and Vargas began tweeting about the fight in Las Vegas over the weekend, where Bradley was providing color commentary for the Friday Night Knockout series on truTV.
Bradley could not be reached for comment and Top Rank promotions, which has a contract with Bradley and Vargas, said as recently as Monday that an announcement is forthcoming. Top Rank would not confirm details.
Bradley (31-1-1) is coming off a draw and a loss (to Pacquiao) after starting his professional career with 31 consecutive victories. Vargas is unbeaten at 26-0 and the two will reportedly fight for the vacant WBO welterweight title, which Bradley held before losing to Pacquiao last year.

Cathedral City's Timothy Bradley to fight Jessie Vargas on June 27


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Khan claims Broner does not really want to fight him and says he would drop the Algieri fight to face him


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwEUeRX7xw

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Ward claims Froch backed out

WBA super-middleweight champion Andre Ward believes Carl Froch has backed out of fighting him and says he is not "going to wait" for him.
Ward, who won on points against Froch in 2011, says a fight between them had been set up at Wembley Stadium but was moved to the City Ground in Nottingham, which the American did not want.
Ward will fight England's Paul Smith in Oakland, USA on 20 June instead and he says it is because he "could not find Carl Froch".


BBC Sport - Carl Froch backed out of our fight - Andre Ward

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lAkuzZHQlEo

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I like ward both inside and outside the ring. he seems like a genuine guy.

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Mundine Trout postponed due to ear infection

Anthony Mundine has been forced to postpone his fight against American Austin Trout because of a "severe ear condition".
The WBC super welterweight bout - one of the most significant of Mundine's career - was scheduled for this Saturday in San Antonio, Texas, but the Australian boxer on Monday announced his doctors have told him he won't be able to fight.
"Mundine is suffering from a severe ear condition which doctors say will cause him serious and potentially permanent damage if he continues with the bout," a statement tweeted by Mundine said.
"The ear condition was first noticed after sparring and got progressively worse the next day during his flight to the USA.


Mundine postpones fight with Austin Trout due to ear infection - 9news.com.au




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You guys probably dont know this; but that guy standing holding Mundines hand up is Mick Gatto one of the Melbourne underworlds top men and one of its only survivors afte the internal wars here 10 years ago.The guy Gatto shot, Andrew "Benji' Veniaman was a young hit man with a favorite side he played for and had topped a lot of people (mostly from the Italian section called the Carlton crew) He wacked them off for a top drug dealer here (who later got bashed to death in jail with a piece of gym equipment while reading the paper at a table) Some of the Italian connections killed were Micks friends and associates so make of it all what you will. The man is a survivor of the darkest streets here. He went for his boxing promotion licence out here a few years back but they refused him saying they dont want the sports name tarnished by his infamy etc. The below happend in Carton in a favorite restaurant of Micks.


In 2004 Mick Gatto was charged with the murder of suspected underworld hitman Andrew Veniamin and remanded in custody for 18 months. He was found not guilty at trial, during which Gatto claimed he had acted in self-defence after Veniamin pulled out a .38 and threatened to kill him. Gatto claims that during a struggle he was able to turn the gun around on Veniamin and fire one shot into his neck, and one shot in the eye. He also claimed that during the argument, Veniamin had implicated himself in the deaths of Dino Dibra, Paul Kallipolitis and Graham Kinniburgh.[1]

Veniamin died in the La Porcella restaurant in Carlton on 23 March 2004 at around 2.30pm after being shot by former associate Domenic "Mick" Gatto. Gatto was charged with his murder but acquitted on self-defence grounds.[2]

This is an interesting video of the three mentioned above, the fat shorter one is Carl Williams,he was the one beaten to death in jail, the vid has a reporter giving you the run down on what is going down and who is who. Condetto the one who got killed in his Brighton home was there accountant, Benji can be seen talking with Mick mostly.

http://www.heraldsun.com.au/news/law...-1226666972281

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Khan claims Broner does not really want to fight him and says he would drop the Algieri fight to face him

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now that would be a good fight, somebody getting put to sleep, i think it would be broner

Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Geale is confident of upsetting the odds and beating Cotto


Former IBF, WBA & IBO World Middleweight Champion Daniel “Real Deal” Geale (31-3, 16 KO’s) spoke to Media Man Brett Bonetti and UFC Heavyweight Soa “The Hulk” Palelei on the Australian radio show “Hulk Talk” today following the announcement that Geale will face WBC middleweight champion Miguel Cotto (39-4, 32 KO’s) on June 6, for the WBC Middleweight title at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn, New York. Geale speaks about this opportunity to become the first Australian crowned as the lineal middleweight world champion, how he feels Cotto and his team are treating this fight, his keys to victory, and much more.

Daniel Geale – Radio Interview | Boxing News | Fightnews

radio interview below

http://www.youtube.com/watch?t=26&v=nKJeS1ziUek

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A fight under the radar but now that the best lay in boxing turned out to be equivalent to throwing a piece of roast beef down a hallway this should start to get some buzz. I think its at least a 50/50 fight for Geale.

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Behave.

He's beaten...

Dirrell
Kessler
Abraham
Bute
Pascal
Taylor
Groves (x2)

In and around their prime. Far more impressive resume than Calzaghe and Hatton.

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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I think the problem is Froch know's Ward's all wrong for him and it will be the same again.The only advantage would be that andre has not been that active lately.Would it sell out wembley anyway??? I'm not so sure?

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Behave.

He's beaten...

Dirrell
Kessler
Abraham
Bute
Pascal
Taylor
Groves (x2)

In and around their prime. Far more impressive resume than Calzaghe and Hatton.

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I agree Froch still deserves massive respect in the game for what he has done.

Calzaghe however was a better fighter thou :)

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Behave.

He's beaten...

Dirrell
Kessler
Abraham
Bute
Pascal
Taylor
Groves (x2)

In and around their prime. Far more impressive resume than Calzaghe and Hatton.

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Firstly, Calzaghe and Hatton were both undisputed No.1 in their divisions at one time. Secondly, as far as your list goes, please note:

Dirrell - Many people think that Froch got lucky and that Dirrell beat him.

Kessler - When Calzaghe beat Kessler, he was in his prime, When Froch lost to him, he was a little less than that , and when Froch Beat him, he was clearly finished. Let us not forget that he only got to the Super Six final because Kessler pulled out with an injury. And to get to the final, he still struggled unconvincingly to get past an ageing Glen Johnson.

Abraham - Has never been the force he was at MW, nonetheless a decent performance at World level, but no more than that.

Bute - we have since discovered that Bute was not up to World standard as he has done fuck all since, clearly overrated by many at the time (including me!)

Pascal - Was a young inexperienced fighter at the time, certainly not what he has become.

Taylor - Blown up MW that decked Froch early on and was 14 seconds away from beating him, and that's a fact.

Groves (x2) - now I like Groves, and I think he's a good fighter, potentially and hopefully a World Champion. But when Froch fought him, he wasn't a proven World Level fighter and indeed he still isn't until he proves that.
to start a comparison with Calzaghe and Hatton is disrespectful and unrealistic in my view, and I would go further by saying that taking Calzaghe , Benn , Eubank, Watson and Collins into consideration, Froch would be bottom of that pile.
I'm sure some people will disagree, but that's how I see it, and at least I have given reasons for my opinion.

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Behave.

He's beaten...

Dirrell
Kessler
Abraham
Bute
Pascal
Taylor
Groves (x2)

In and around their prime. Far more impressive resume than Calzaghe and Hatton.

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Firstly, Calzaghe and Hatton were both undisputed No.1 in their divisions at one time. Secondly, as far as your list goes, please note:

Dirrell - Many people think that Froch got lucky and that Dirrell beat him.

Kessler - When Calzaghe beat Kessler, he was in his prime, When Froch lost to him, he was a little less than that , and when Froch Beat him, he was clearly finished. Let us not forget that he only got to the Super Six final because Kessler pulled out with an injury. And to get to the final, he still struggled unconvincingly to get past an ageing Glen Johnson.

Abraham - Has never been the force he was at MW, nonetheless a decent performance at World level, but no more than that.

Bute - we have since discovered that Bute was not up to World standard as he has done fuck all since, clearly overrated by many at the time (including me!)

Pascal - Was a young inexperienced fighter at the time, certainly not what he has become.

Taylor - Blown up MW that decked Froch early on and was 14 seconds away from beating him, and that's a fact.

Groves (x2) - now I like Groves, and I think he's a good fighter, potentially and hopefully a World Champion. But when Froch fought him, he wasn't a proven World Level fighter and indeed he still isn't until he proves that.
to start a comparison with Calzaghe and Hatton is disrespectful and unrealistic in my view, and I would go further by saying that taking Calzaghe , Benn , Eubank, Watson and Collins into consideration, Froch would be bottom of that pile.
I'm sure some people will disagree, but that's how I see it, and at least I have given reasons for my opinion.

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I don't disagree with a lot you say,but i thought he showed real heart in the super six at the time for a fighter who had been around the block, but never really got noticed till then. So i will always respect him for that.

Your right about bute, because no one gave froch a chance when that fight was made so at the time he still has to be given respect for that.
When you look at it really Froch win at Wembley was he's most emphatic and certainly not in the class of Calzaghe.

Agreed, Islington, but I have to be careful with copying too many quotes cos I get a bollocking for making the page 2 miles long! 😀

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Behave.

He's beaten...

Dirrell
Kessler
Abraham
Bute
Pascal
Taylor
Groves (x2)

In and around their prime. Far more impressive resume than Calzaghe and Hatton.

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Firstly, Calzaghe and Hatton were both undisputed No.1 in their divisions at one time. Secondly, as far as your list goes, please note:

Dirrell - Many people think that Froch got lucky and that Dirrell beat him.

Kessler - When Calzaghe beat Kessler, he was in his prime, When Froch lost to him, he was a little less than that , and when Froch Beat him, he was clearly finished. Let us not forget that he only got to the Super Six final because Kessler pulled out with an injury. And to get to the final, he still struggled unconvincingly to get past an ageing Glen Johnson.

Abraham - Has never been the force he was at MW, nonetheless a decent performance at World level, but no more than that.

Bute - we have since discovered that Bute was not up to World standard as he has done fuck all since, clearly overrated by many at the time (including me!)

Pascal - Was a young inexperienced fighter at the time, certainly not what he has become.

Taylor - Blown up MW that decked Froch early on and was 14 seconds away from beating him, and that's a fact.

Groves (x2) - now I like Groves, and I think he's a good fighter, potentially and hopefully a World Champion. But when Froch fought him, he wasn't a proven World Level fighter and indeed he still isn't until he proves that.
to start a comparison with Calzaghe and Hatton is disrespectful and unrealistic in my view, and I would go further by saying that taking Calzaghe , Benn , Eubank, Watson and Collins into consideration, Froch would be bottom of that pile.
I'm sure some people will disagree, but that's how I see it, and at least I have given reasons for my opinion.

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I don't disagree with a lot you say,but i thought he showed real heart in the super six at the time for a fighter who had been around the block, but never really got noticed till then. So i will always respect him for that.

Your right about bute, because no one gave froch a chance when that fight was made so at the time he still has to be given respect for that.
When you look at it really Froch win at Wembley was he's most emphatic and certainly not in the class of Calzaghe.

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froch was underdog in most of those fights

probly with exception of groves and dirrell

says a lot

p.s. froch beat dirrell

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Behave.

He's beaten...

Dirrell
Kessler
Abraham
Bute
Pascal
Taylor
Groves (x2)

In and around their prime. Far more impressive resume than Calzaghe and Hatton.

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Yeah but at no point was he the best 168lber in the world. That's something Calzaghe and Hatton have over him: they ruled their divisions in their time... not Froch!

And Hatton dethroned one of the best 140lbers in history to do it.

And if Froch spends his remaining career avoiding Andre Ward, he's a punk and doesn't deserve to be mentioned with those guys, I don't care who he's beaten.

If you have no desire to avenge a loss and beat a guy that considered to be the #1 in your weight division, you're a punk and you have no business being mentioned with the best.

Ward refuses to come to England unless it's at Wembley stadium.

45,000 punters is not enough for him.

Delusions of grandeur....:D

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Well to be fair, for what its worth , Ward is the "Super" champion and Froch is only the Regular champion. The governing body mandated Froch to fight him , so the Proper Champion should have home advantage anyway, no?
I think he's being generous coming to the UK full stop.

Froch should be chomping at the bit to get back at Ward, who beat him once and is considered to be the best at 168 and one of the top p4p in the world. Froch should fight in Ward's basement if he had to. These guys aren't equals, Ward is considered the best and already whipped Froch. It should be Froch hungry to fight him.

The fact is he doesn't care about taking on the challenge. He's happy staying in his own little fish bowl like so many Brits were before him.

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Disappointing if true for Froch. He wants to be a great UK fighter like Calzaghe, Hatton, Lewis, ect? Well all of those guys were, in their time, the undisputed #1 in their divisions. Froch might be ranked #1 by default, but he'll never be the true #1 unless he fights and beats Andre Ward. Until then I don't think he should be mentioned among the best UK fighters.

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Behave.

He's beaten...

Dirrell
Kessler
Abraham
Bute
Pascal
Taylor
Groves (x2)

In and around their prime. Far more impressive resume than Calzaghe and Hatton.

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Firstly, Calzaghe and Hatton were both undisputed No.1 in their divisions at one time. Secondly, as far as your list goes, please note:

Dirrell - Many people think that Froch got lucky and that Dirrell beat him.

Kessler - When Calzaghe beat Kessler, he was in his prime, When Froch lost to him, he was a little less than that , and when Froch Beat him, he was clearly finished. Let us not forget that he only got to the Super Six final because Kessler pulled out with an injury. And to get to the final, he still struggled unconvincingly to get past an ageing Glen Johnson.

Abraham - Has never been the force he was at MW, nonetheless a decent performance at World level, but no more than that.

Bute - we have since discovered that Bute was not up to World standard as he has done fuck all since, clearly overrated by many at the time (including me!)

Pascal - Was a young inexperienced fighter at the time, certainly not what he has become.

Taylor - Blown up MW that decked Froch early on and was 14 seconds away from beating him, and that's a fact.

Groves (x2) - now I like Groves, and I think he's a good fighter, potentially and hopefully a World Champion. But when Froch fought him, he wasn't a proven World Level fighter and indeed he still isn't until he proves that.
to start a comparison with Calzaghe and Hatton is disrespectful and unrealistic in my view, and I would go further by saying that taking Calzaghe , Benn , Eubank, Watson and Collins into consideration, Froch would be bottom of that pile.
I'm sure some people will disagree, but that's how I see it, and at least I have given reasons for my opinion.

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I don't disagree with a lot you say,but i thought he showed real heart in the super six at the time for a fighter who had been around the block, but never really got noticed till then. So i will always respect him for that.

Your right about bute, because no one gave froch a chance when that fight was made so at the time he still has to be given respect for that.
When you look at it really Froch win at Wembley was he's most emphatic and certainly not in the class of Calzaghe.

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froch was underdog in most of those fights

probly with exception of groves and dirrell

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No he didn't. And it wasn't even very close. That's why everyone called it a robbery immediately.

No problem if Ward doesn't want to fight Froch or vice versa - but Ward refuses to fight in front of 40,000 in a football ground, the biggest audience he will ever experience, because he believes he's big enough for 80,000 at Wembley.

He's clearly comfortable to stay in his hometown. And he is fighting (to quote him) the best guy at supermiddle, Paul Smith, other than the ducker Carl Froch. Fair play.