Come on then, let's have a chat about David Price.
Would you give him another go?
Strip that weight, better conditioning, perhaps a chat with Tyson Fury?
No one feels as bad as he does this morning..is it all over?
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Come on then, let's have a chat about David Price.
Would you give him another go?
Strip that weight, better conditioning, perhaps a chat with Tyson Fury?
No one feels as bad as he does this morning..is it all over?
It's up to him really. I appreciate how hard it is to call it a day. It's his livelihood , but unfortunately when you lose, your stock goes down, your earnings fall, and let's see how keen he is fighting in small halls for shit money. Harsh realities.
How about his trainer?
Did he give him the best advice?
https://youtu.be/PqOdgOdzRXU
The trainer was bad and was giving him all the wrong advice.
Price needs to learn from Wlad and learn to hold when he is hurt.
Price did knock down Hunter but Price needs to fight 20 C level fighters and build up his confidence before moving up to B level.
How many years will that take?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
If he can get x4 more undercard fights this year then that might be a start for his 4th comeback in 2018..time is running out on Price.
A 6' 6"guy who cannot close on an opponent one he has him hurt has no place in boxing--a sport that seldom has a happy ending. I feel a tad of pity for him. He pushed to his limits but cold no exceed them. Better to have tied and failed than to not have tried at all. :eek:
Is this a joke? I mean he could be some kind of lower tier domestic gatekeeper, but the guy obviously can not fight, of course it's over.
Unhappily I agree, failure to close when the opportunity came (gas?) but most of all failure to use his attributes to boss the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
It's up to him really if he wants to continue fighting but what's the point? He'll never be elite and even contender status would be a stretch. Does anyone even want to see him fight again?
I cant watch that video at work but I thought the trainer got it all wrong in the cornerQuote:
Originally Posted by imp
one thing I remember him telling price to do was to stop ramming the jam out?
but in general he was talking very fast and getting him more wound up, should have been calming him down, he'd have been better saying nothing, price was burning out on nervous energy as it was
but having said that, this is what price does, I think anyone would have had a difficult job
Does not matter how long it takes. It keeps him busy and earning a living fighting at a level he is comfortable at.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHow many years will that take?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
If he can get x4 more undercard fights this year then that might be a start for his 4th comeback in 2018..time is running out on Price.
No trainer, or no amount of cardio is going to change what Price has become. His problems are all in his head. His total lack of belief in himself means that he's not punching properly or with any real conviction. He's robbed himself of any opportunity to win of fight of any significance. There was a time when you could make the argument that he's still got a punchers chance, still got that big right hand, well that's a shadow of its former devastating self. All credit to Hammer, but he should never have got anywhere near Price.
His fitness levels were shocking he looked terrible I think he should just forget about fighting.Quote:
Originally Posted by imp
He has lost 4 badly I can't see what you can do with him if he carry's on he could get hurt.
Pity all the tools but a poor chin.
World level is the only level he needs to achieve..I don't know if it's a physical or mental thing with David.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterDoes not matter how long it takes. It keeps him busy and earning a living fighting at a level he is comfortable at.Quote:
Originally Posted by impHow many years will that take?Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
If he can get x4 more undercard fights this year then that might be a start for his 4th comeback in 2018..time is running out on Price.
He seems like a nice guy and he's obviously a bit better than Audley.
Gasses out - but i'm sure they've worked on his fitness, so I can only think it's his mental state wearing him out
yeah its a mental issue it looks like
if he is gonna continue I think he needs a trainer who is always calm and relaxed
and obviously gives good simple tactical advice
but what do I know
Like Bruno he seems mentally fragile and dramatically tire in the fight. Price also should have held on more when hurt and survived to beat Hammer.Quote:
Originally Posted by oakleyno1
Price's best bet is to hope Hammer fails a drug test.
Always annoying when sites forgo basic editorial tasks in the name of getting some content out there quickly.
Listening to people blame his weight/Dave Coldwell is nonsense, to me. He fought/reacted no different on Saturday to how he has in the past when a stone and half lighter. There's a difference between being chinny and terrified of being hit to the point of not being able to handle any pressure/adversity. He physically drains so quick because he's shitting himself.
Unfortunately for him the game is up.
He might have been better off if Thompson and Teper had been clean. Them being filthy drug cheats kinda wiped the slate clean for him and possibly removed the need for him to have a good look in the mirror and face up to his shortcomings.
Price was bordering on cocky about it. They cheated, doesnt count, didnt happen. I killed Joshua in sparring.
Perhaps he might have comfort and perform better with the headguard on during sparring.
Perhaps they might make a special exception and let him wear the head guard in his next pro fight.
Kidding aside, let him have another run..get down to 17-18< stone and see what happens after 3-4 tune up fights...again.
I feel sorry for David Price, who comes across as a thoroughly decent bloke. I also respect anybody who has the guts to actually step in the ring.
He was a very good amateur, and his height and technique was well suited to the shorter format. He could definitely punch, he was well schooled and he had those great height and reach advantages.
However, even when he was still an amateur, those in the know had questions about his chin and his stamina.
After the obligatory blow outs against incompetent journeymen, the hype machine began working overtime. He has being compared favourably with the similarly sized Tyson Fury at the time .... but Fury is a fighter through and through and I never got the impression that Price was, deep down, a fighter at heart. Softly spoken, introspective and quite self deprecating - I was not convinced he was a man confident in his abilities.
With his losses, we have seen exactly the same pattern. A bright start, then a shocking collapse. Price is a very very big man, and his weight against Hammer was ridiculous! I don't join in the criticism of his corner, someone with elite level pretensions should have coped easily with the game but limited Hammer.
A man lacking confidence in his durability will always fight 'tense', and this stress is hugely debilitating and tiring. I think that, as well as lacking stamina generally, this psychological tension has just led to all the strength draining out of the guy by the fifth round. He was so exhausted he literally couldn't hold his hands up.
There is no doubting the man's courage, and - actually - Price has had a career he should be proud of. Boxing is hard, and very very few people make it a success. How many of the keyboard warriors on here have accomplished a fraction of what David Price has?
He could very easily continue his career at domestic level. There are many worse heavyweights than him plying a trade up and down the UK. But I do think his faults are too deep seated to correct quickly and in the glare of the public.
my worries aren't about his career. Any fighter who is huge and heavy, and who has courage .... but who literally cannot defend himself when tired is going to risk their long term health.
Nobody wants to see this fundamentally decent man irreparably harmed, or to join the long long list of people broken by the sport.
Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any differentQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
If ever somebody needed Manny Steward it's David Price....poor fella.
Here's the deal with Price, he's the heavyweight version of Randall Bailey he's got dodgy stamina and a crap chin but one hell of a punch. Problem is everyone knows what is coming with Price and if they can withstand it then they can win.
David Price has fallen in love with his power and he cannot fathom anyone being able to walk through that he needs to focus not on knocking guys out, but on touching them up, just touch touch touch touch and don't put every ounce of energy behind every single punch, chop a guy down by scoring punches on him, not by 1 gigantic photo op shot, those typically come from hard work and landing numerous punches and moving the feet! Marciano's KO of Walcott came that way for instance.
David Price could still be a big player for a little bit in the British scene, but I doubt he ever gets a world title shot unless he goes on a massive run.
Teper was taking everything he could get his hands on, anything he couldnt take himself he was selling. He at least was committed to his cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any differentQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
Thompson was taking a known masking agent. He says it was for a heart condition but refused/couldnt be bothered to provide any proof.
Its immaterial to be honest. Whether they had a physical edge because of it or not, Price's demeanor for me was one of absolution. He hadnt done anything wrong, it was them cunt cheats. Whilst he's not wrong, there were clearly issues that needed addressing on his part and I think them failing tests and him in a way being given a free pass (getting his ranking back) might have just masked over the situation a bit.
The Price who lost to Hammer looked light-years more lumbering than the one who got KO'ed by Teper. Don't know if it was the extra weight or what. But against Hammer, David's left looked totally useless and inviting for right hand shots. He holds it too low, and waves it around with no purpose whatsoever. He also gassed horribly. Would've been interesting to see what would've happened had the knockdown of Hammer occurred earlier in the round. Obviously, he gets crushed by either Wilder or AJ.
This was why AJ opted for someone other than Price because he wanted someone durable who would go some rounds with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFan
Thank you for one of the most thoughtful and humane posts I have read in quite a long time. You nailed it. Great stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by X
I think the best thing that Price could do is put in the road work, fight a few domestic scraps, get back to winning, hell try to find some tomato can who can last rounds with you and beat him up. THEN get a fight with Chisora. That fight is still a possibility and it'll remain so for a while...get that fight, win, and then go after the ranked heavyweights.
Also if I'm a heavyweight looking for a good chance to jump up the rankings I'm looking at Price, he's going to have offers, his team has to get him better prepared there's no excuse for him to fade in a fight like that. He can bounce back, I want him to bounce back, but it's not going to happen if he doesn't shake things up a bit.
David Price is a sad sack, a sorry excuse for a HW prizefighter!
Once he quit against Thompson we should have known he was done. Audley Harrison sucked but at least he had balls.
Let's make one thing clear..audley Harrison has not got more balls than Price.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidgil
That is just not possible.
He needs to get a new trainer and fight at least 10 light hitting heavies and blown up cruiserweight confidence builders. I think Ann Wolfe would get the best out of Price in my opinion.
I can't remember Fraudley ever quitting... I thought he always went out on his shield?Quote:
Originally Posted by impLet's make one thing clear..audley Harrison has not got more balls than Price.Quote:
Originally Posted by vidgil
That is just not possible.
This man Price is done. He can get a new trainer, he can't get a new heart! He just doesn't have the goods.
I don't really know why people are talking about this. WHat he needs to do is invest whatever money he's made so far(which is a lot more than many guys far better than him) and find something else to do with his life. Reading some of these posts you'd think the guy actually had great natural instincts and vast potential or something. He's huge and had a punch, I don't see where else his success would have come from even as an amateur, I mean he really doesn't do anything all that well. The guys he has lost to are simply guys you don't get stopped by if you have any promise, no reason to carry on at all.
yes all that's waiting for Price down this road is more beatings, more head trauma. Time to get outQuote:
Originally Posted by p4pking
Surprised with Joshua on monumental streak and mega fight on deck that Price even gets the mentions after 4 stoppage losses ;D. Sometimes it just doesn't go your way and all 6'8 means is that there's just more of you to punch.
its not really immaterialQuote:
Originally Posted by MemphisTeper was taking everything he could get his hands on, anything he couldnt take himself he was selling. He at least was committed to his cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any differentQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
Thompson was taking a known masking agent. He says it was for a heart condition but refused/couldnt be bothered to provide any proof.
Its immaterial to be honest. Whether they had a physical edge because of it or not, Price's demeanor for me was one of absolution. He hadnt done anything wrong, it was them cunt cheats. Whilst he's not wrong, there were clearly issues that needed addressing on his part and I think them failing tests and him in a way being given a free pass (getting his ranking back) might have just masked over the situation a bit.
teper, drugged up to the eyeballs beat price
and a number of other fighters
would he have even been in a position to fight price? I doubt it, and I don't think you can say he would have won anyway
It's immaterial in the sense that whether Teper was a Drugs cheat or not, it doesn't help Price much. it doesn't matter whether he would've beat or lost to Teper.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44its not really immaterialQuote:
Originally Posted by MemphisTeper was taking everything he could get his hands on, anything he couldnt take himself he was selling. He at least was committed to his cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by erics44Thompson was taking a diuretic, which I understand is cheating but i'm not sure the advantage it would give him, the result should have been overturned, i'm not sure it would have been any differentQuote:
Originally Posted by Memphis
Teper was taking peds, im sure I heard steve bunce say it was one of the worst failures, which I took to mean he had a lot more PEDs in his system than the vast majority who fail drugs tests, a clear drugs cheat, I would argue that that result could well have been very different
Thompson was taking a known masking agent. He says it was for a heart condition but refused/couldnt be bothered to provide any proof.
Its immaterial to be honest. Whether they had a physical edge because of it or not, Price's demeanor for me was one of absolution. He hadnt done anything wrong, it was them cunt cheats. Whilst he's not wrong, there were clearly issues that needed addressing on his part and I think them failing tests and him in a way being given a free pass (getting his ranking back) might have just masked over the situation a bit.
teper, drugged up to the eyeballs beat price
and a number of other fighters
would he have even been in a position to fight price? I doubt it, and I don't think you can say he would have won anyway
if we're saying it's affected him mentally , then perhaps he hasn't got the mental strength to succeed at the highest level.
basically, it's not about anyone else, it's about him.