Frank Warren also stated this morning that he's close to a deal with Wilders team.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/45009647
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Frank Warren also stated this morning that he's close to a deal with Wilders team.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/boxing/45009647
I reckon fury can box him and make him look stupid
would be an absolute pisser if he did and made AJ look like an idiot, also making the super fight pointless
COME ON FURY !! I hope this goes thru
LISTEN: Frank Warren CONFIRMS EVIDENCE of Anthony Joshua $50m GUARANTEE, Tony Bellew UNCONVINCED in LIVE DEBATE
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/20180...in-live-debate
I hope this happens, Hearn could have massively dropped the ball here if this gets made.
Not sure it's the cleverest of moves though from Fury, years out the ring, having to lose so much weight and having only one real fight before jumping in with Wilder has gotta be career suicide but with Fury you never know.
Thing is I doubt Fury gives a fuck really as an all British stadium fight with AJ will surely still be there if he lost to Wilder.
This is absolutely the best case scenario for AJ. The winner of this fight fighting AJ will be huge.
I would be completely shocked if Fury could beat Wilder though. No way he gets in good enough shape beat him. I don’t see Fury being able to stay away long enough.
To be honest I'll believe it when I see it but anything can happen in Boxing.
Wembley stadium is already booked for April but Wilder has a mandatory with Breazeale that could be pushed back once but I can't see them letting him fight Fury in December then AJ in April.
I'd be amazed if Wilder fought 3 times in 5 months and squeezed his mandatory inbetween fighting Fury and AJ. ?
I think they think they are getting one over Eddie and AJ when in fact this is a stupid and wreckless fight for Fury to take on. He is at least a year away from getting into fighting shape to face these top fighters. Fury will lose this fight and could be brutally knocked out.
Wilder to win via KO
Fury will start to gas and blow
Brocks poetry has nothing on me
Wilder to win in rounds 1, 2 or 3
sitting in a packed out arena
surrounded by the crowd
and yet I wondered lonely as a cloud
@brocktonblockbust
That was brilliant, Bellew mugged him off live on air for bullshitting, if only fighters weren't terrified to give Frank that treatment back in the day, how the mighty have fallen.
Wilder's team send a contract to Frank about Joshua's business but can't provide one for Joshua himself to sign. Hilarious.
Master, you work on the basic misapprehension that Wilder is any fucking good. Its a race between European promoters to get the first one in to beat him, and then get another big 'euro' fight on the back.Quote:
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Alan Brazil should have let them go on with the verbal, that was just getting good then he swiftly changed the subject.
Wonder if Shelley Finkle did show him though?
Like everybody else I don't think this is a good fight for Fury at this point. I don't know what Frank is thinking about.
I think Fury wares the trousers in that relationship
I don't see this happening in December.
Just build up for both guys. Keeping their names in the mix.
I want to see how Fury looks in his 2nd bout back, before considering what he'll look like against Wilder at the end of the year. I do think Fury needs another fight before the years end, a fringe type guy would suit his comeback better.
Wilder is not that bad that he would lose to a Tyson Fury that is not fighting fit after only 2 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomMaster, you work on the basic misapprehension that Wilder is any fucking good. Its a race between European promoters to get the first one in to beat him, and then get another big 'euro' fight on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Fury must get seasoned and that takes time.
Fury is rushing it for no good reason.
Let AJ v Wilder slug it out and by that time Fury gets some fights under his belt and ready for the winner.
I give Fury his credit for beating Wlad and doing it comfortably but boxing is very much a what have you done for me lately sport. And Wilder is to go from the AJ lottery to a freshly returned but barely thawed out Fury who is still a mystery as far as is he fully back. I don't think it's a good fight style wise but also momentum wise for either being honest. A patchwork match. Like to see Fury elevated higher prior to see if he topples over again, bigger impact for the winner. That said I can see Fury playing plenty head games with Wilder in possible lead up.
It's definitely too soon for Fury but Wilders team have confirmed negotiations are well under way and it's without doubt the best time to take on Fury which If Wilder wins in style only makes the AJ fight even bigger.
Wilder's Manager Confirms Negotiations For Tyson Fury Fight
http://www.boxingscene.com/wilder-ma...-fight--130456
That may be why Wilder and his camp are more keen on Tyson than Joshua.
Take Tyson (and his name) out now as opposed to 3 fights later where he would be likely be "battle ready" for a world title
Yea for Wilders team, this is the best time to take Fury, before he gets in better shape and has a few fights under his comeback. It could turn disastrous tho should he lose.
Don't agree, and I'm no Fury fan, Fury can do the same to him as he did to Vlad, and at half pace because Wilder is no Vlad. Bully, lean, move and just generally let Wilder miss all night and make a twat of himself. If Warren pulls it off Fury will win and be Warrens bestest mate for years. You heard it here first.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWilder is not that bad that he would lose to a Tyson Fury that is not fighting fit after only 2 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomMaster, you work on the basic misapprehension that Wilder is any fucking good. Its a race between European promoters to get the first one in to beat him, and then get another big 'euro' fight on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Fury must get seasoned and that takes time.
Fury is rushing it for no good reason.
Let AJ v Wilder slug it out and by that time Fury gets some fights under his belt and ready for the winner.
Yeah hilarious. If said contract existed, Finkel would have called a press conference to show every man and his dog. If the money existed, he would have done the same. The two to hand in hand and is probably a big reason there was no contract (The contract would have to state would contain information which would indicate how the money was being raised). Thats assuming it wasn't 100% a publicity stunt.Quote:
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The fact that Wilder was begging the WBA to strip AJ 2 weeks ago tells you everything anybody needs to know about Wilder and his intentions. He wants to somehow grab another belt to help justify his silly 50/50 demand (in his head, not in real life).....unfortunately beating Fury may also do that (again, in his head).
Won't happen. Wlad is tentative whenever he isn't forced to actually fight. Wilder is way more aggressive. Both AJ and Wilder would present even a peak (whatever that is considering he's only really delivered a top class performance once in his career) Fury with very different problems. The notion that Fury can just return from a 3 year hiatus and school Wilder is just ridiculous.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomDon't agree, and I'm no Fury fan, Fury can do the same to him as he did to Vlad, and at half pace because Wilder is no Vlad. Bully, lean, move and just generally let Wilder miss all night and make a twat of himself. If Warren pulls it off Fury will win and be Warrens bestest mate for years. You heard it here first.Quote:
Originally Posted by MasterWilder is not that bad that he would lose to a Tyson Fury that is not fighting fit after only 2 fights.Quote:
Originally Posted by nuggetdotcomMaster, you work on the basic misapprehension that Wilder is any fucking good. Its a race between European promoters to get the first one in to beat him, and then get another big 'euro' fight on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Fury must get seasoned and that takes time.
Fury is rushing it for no good reason.
Let AJ v Wilder slug it out and by that time Fury gets some fights under his belt and ready for the winner.
Wow... in the who beats up who in the Wilder-AJ conversations, I can understand the back and forth with some picking Wilder and others picking AJ.
But Fury??!?? ;D
Damn..... I've NEVER seen a fighter get more mileage (or his fans) out of a single fight. Fury got in Wlad's head and beat a "Bambi" Wlad who threw 4 punches a round the entire fight...... then promptly self-destructed over the next 3 years.
I normally don't bet, but I'll take some of that action.
Totally agreed. Fury was never that impressive his whole career. He beats Wlad easily then everyone talks as if he is this god of boxing. I’m not convinced that Fury would beat AJ or Wilder without the layoff. With the layoff and getting fat, no way he beats them.Quote:
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Probably never even spoke to him let alone show him AJ's business.Quote:
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Alan Brazil should have let them go on with the verbal, that was just getting good then he swiftly changed the subject.
Wonder if Shelley Finkle did show him though?
Look, all Frank was doing was promoting Fury's name on the back of a huge heavyweight weekend. So whilst everyone is talking about Whyte and Chisora in the mix with AJ and Wilder and Wembley and Box Office and Hearn and billion dollar deals and whatnot Fury is next fighting a Romainian road sweeper, on a Frampton undercard in an event which nobody gives a fuck a about, the boxing fans and most importantly the casuals.
Fury-vs whoever the fuck gets no headlines.
Fury-vs-Wilder gets headlines.
Bullshit sells.
There does seem to be a lot of bullshit flying around regarding Wilder's next opponent. None of it coming from Wilder, though.
"Fury begins talks with Wilder, Tyson confirms"....... "Deal almost done, Tyson says"......... "Fury backs Chisora to face Wilder"........ "Hearn offers big bucks for Wilder to face Whyte" ;D
Wilder must be a bit amused by it all.
Funny thing is...... haven't seen one single quote from HIM, other than his wanting to fight Anthony Joshua. Must be waiting for the bullshit chatter to die down to a dull roar. ;)
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Originally Posted by FensterProbably never even spoke to him let alone show him AJ's business.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashupQuote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Alan Brazil should have let them go on with the verbal, that was just getting good then he swiftly changed the subject.
Wonder if Shelley Finkle did show him though?
Look, all Frank was doing was promoting Fury's name on the back of a huge heavyweight weekend. So whilst everyone is talking about Whyte and Chisora in the mix with AJ and Wilder and Wembley and Box Office and Hearn and billion dollar deals and whatnot Fury is next fighting a Romainian road sweeper, on a Frampton undercard in an event which nobody gives a fuck a about, the boxing fans and most importantly the casuals.
Fury-vs whoever the fuck gets no headlines.
Fury-vs-Wilder gets headlines.
Bullshit sells.
It certainly does and this Warren v Hearn caper just gets funnier by the day...
You've now got Fury stood in his cow print pants cunting off Bellew for daring to challenge a 70 year old Warren and asking for the "straightener" 😂😂😂
http://www.givemesport.com/1364338-t...n?autoplay=off
So this fight is supposed to happen in America? This doesn't make any sense at all from Fury's point of view.
Does anything make sense in Fury Land? This won’t happen, and in a few months time, everybody will realise how pathetic this “Marketing campaign” is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
Exactly what I said this morning to my mate, you have 4 absolute clowns Fury, Wilder, Warren and Shirley, they have told the joke now we just need to wait for the punchlineQuote:
Originally Posted by Primo CarneraDoes anything make sense in Fury Land? This won’t happen, and in a few months time, everybody will realise how pathetic this “Marketing campaign” is.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing
The smart move for both guys is for Wilder to defend against Breazeale, then take the AJ fight in April. Fury can get a couple more step ups, 1 in Nov, another in Mar/ Apr. From there it's wide open really. It depends on what some of these other guys like Whyte, Miller, Ortiz and Parker do as well.
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I think that's a marinating we can put up with, realistically.
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Fury talks a lot of crap, but deep down this is probably what he really has in mind. You don't go diving into the deep end of the pool after taking a couple of baby steps in the wading pool. Either way he loses to either Wilder or AJ.
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IMO the sun is already setting on Ortiz. Miller doesn't impress me at all, and to me will be a non-factor before too long. Not champion material. Whyte is definitely in the picture, and Parker, with a few adjustments, should be in there as well.
Yea I was meaning if they get in the way, Miller may get the April date over Wilder.
Whyte is still #1 with the WBC I think. That fight might happen before AJ. Or Whyte may rematch AJ before Wilder gets a shot.
Fury should be looking at Bellew or Chisora for the end of the year.
Pulev is floating about, I think he was still in line for an eliminator.
There is also the elephant in the room that is Charr vs Oquendo, someone is going to have to eventually clean that mess up.
“I believe 100 per cent that this fight is going to happen and it’s going to get done," Wilder, who is undefeated in 40 fights with 39 knockouts, said of the Fury match-up. "We’re very, very close. Closer than Joshua and me could ever get in a lifetime.
"It’s definitely gonna happen, there’s no doubt. There’s just a little more work to be done."
“Me and Fury, we talked with each other back and forth; I think he’s a great guy, we have a relationship together, and my team has a relationship with his team," Wilder told The Ring.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/boxing/20...ry-could-soon/
Chisora wants Whyte who wants Wilder who wants AJ who wants Fury. :)
Maybe Finkel, Wilder, Warren and Fury have formed a little gang and made this whole thing up?
WORLD EXCLUSIVE: Deontay Wilder CONTRACT NOT SIGNED by Anthony Joshua, Shelly Finkel says 'IT'S CLEAR BY THE TERMS THEY DON'T WANT THE FIGHT'
http://www.worldboxingnews.net/20180...want-the-fight
I'm glad Wilder's finally talking about it, since I believe about 0.000001% of what Fury shovels. If that's true, Fury had better make good use of his tuneup against Pianeta....... he's gonna need it.
I thought Miller had made the move to swerve Pulev in eliminator so he can get wba winner? The thought of a 'young' undefeated top Miller facing a 4 yr out Fres Oquendo sounds like a major step backwards for American heavyweights ;D.Quote:
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Would love to see Whyte in big again right away. Not a AJ rematch though for AJs momentum sake.
I'm late to this so not read the full thread but this December too soon for Fury surely - like at least a year too soon.
If he takes it it suggests to me one of two things...
i) he's cashing in for a 10 million + pay day retirement plan and conning us all he wants to get back to the top. He could blame the defeat on it being too soon and then cash in more with an AJ fight next year too...
or
ii) he's actually fooling us all and is in awesome shape and back to his best already despite ring rust !
If this December I favour it 80-20 Wilder.
Rather he took Bellew in December
Either way Fury will sell it for sure
If those are my only two choices........ "I'll take (i) for $500, Alex"
Seriously.... if he loses to Wilder, blames it on coming back too soon, and STILL cons fans into a mega-payday against AJ........
Well, you know what they say about a fool and his money. ;)