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Ryan Garcia v Emmanuel Tagoe
Ryan Garcia's return set for April 9 against Ghanaian Emmanuel Tagoe.
Ryan Garcia‘s comeback trail starts against Emmanuel Tagoe on April 9 at the Alamodome in San Antonio, according to promoter Oscar De La Hoya.
The 23-year-old has not fought since defeating Luke Campbell to become WBC interim lightweight champion in January 2021.
A combination of injury and mental health issues have kept him out of action but he has since made a full recovery.
Taking to Twitter, De La Hoya wrote: “My birthday gift: The return of Ryan Garcia vs Emannuel Tagoe April 9, from Alamodome in San Antonio, TX [sic]. Let’s go.”
The 49-year-old also included DAZN and Golden Boy Promotions in his tweet, after the two recently agreed a new deal, with De La Hoya saying “we are delighted to continue to work with DAZN in 2022”.
Eddy Reynoso-trained Garcia – who trains alongside Canelo Alvarez – has been chasing a fight with Gervonta Davis for years.
But it has now been confirmed the American, 23, will first face Tagoe, 33, in a few weeks’ time with the hopes of securing a lucrative showdown with unified champ George Kambosos Jr.
The lightweight rivals have been rowing back and forth on social media in recent weeks.
Garcia sensationally claimed he would knock out Kambosos Jr when the two finally meet in the ring.
He tweeted: “I will KO George Kambosos that’s a promise, say that happens regardless [in] April I will be 22-0.”
But Kambosos hit back and in response taunted Garcia about his struggles with mental health, having also revealed he is a fan of ‘The Flash’.
He replied: “You’re a good kid, Ryan. I like you, but take a ticket, buddy and try not to pull a heartstring again or injure yourself shadow boxing with your eyes closed. You might run into a wall.”
Kambosos also said that Garcia isn’t even in the frame to fight him next.
In reply to a now-deleted tweet, he added: “Sure you do, buddy, sure you do. WAR? You are the kind soldier that would be shivering in their boots, hiding away in a cave until the wars finished.
“Listen as I said, buddy, I like you. You’re a good kid. But take a ticket and get in line. I got real [some] business to handle first.”
Kambosos hasn’t fought since November when he stunned Teofimo Lopez on points at Madison Square Garden in New York to win the WBA (Super), IBF, WBO, and The Ring lightweight titles.
The Australian is weighing up either Devin Haney or Vasyl Lomachenko as his next opponent.
He continued: “Like I have said countless times, I want the best challenger to give the world the best fights possible.
“Haney, Matchroom boxing, Lomachenko Top Rank boxing, it takes two to tango, so let’s get this done ASAP. The stadium in Australia awaits. And still!”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...cid=entnewsntp
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Re: Ryan Garcia v Emmanuel Tagoe
i thought tevin might get the call but this is a good comeback opponent for king ry
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Re: Ryan Garcia v Emmanuel Tagoe
Feather puncher... only his 3rd fight out of Ghana...
Yeah... I'd say that's a totally safe comeback fight for the youngster.
IMO though, he should've started as Baron rather than King.
You gotta earn that shit.
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Re: Ryan Garcia v Emmanuel Tagoe
Amazing how the kid has stagnated after Campbell 'breakout' show. A step sideways fight here but pretty sure he'll get needed rounds. Ryan barks way too much and a lot of these young guys need to get away from all the assumption of greatness based on social media tiffs and what they're "owed". Stop demanding mega fights with Tank when you're pulling out of Jo Jo Diaz and Fortuna fights. To my knowledge there is no 'Tiktok' championship, just show up and do impressive work. Garcia has the sport at his feet, blowing up the body of Tagoe inside the distance is a pretty solid reset.
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Amazing how the kid has stagnated after Campbell 'breakout' show. A step sideways fight here but pretty sure he'll get needed rounds. Ryan barks way too much and a lot of these young guys need to get away from all the assumption of greatness based on social media tiffs and what they're "owed". Stop demanding mega fights with Tank when you're pulling out of Jo Jo Diaz and Fortuna fights. To my knowledge there is no 'Tiktok' championship, just show up and do impressive work. Garcia has the sport at his feet, blowing up the body of Tagoe inside the distance is a pretty solid reset.
:goodpost: Yep. Agree 100%. Well... 99%. The sport has reportedly left his feet for more deserving feet.
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new trainer as well
Can't get my head around Garcia and Goosen at his own gym at this point. Comfort zone..for the Instagram champ. Hope Ryan gets back determined! But I can also see a scenario where he and Joe fight over the selfie shots between rounds.
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new trainer as well
Can't get my head around Garcia and Goosen at his own gym at this point. Comfort zone..for the Instagram champ. Hope Ryan gets back determined!
But I can also see a scenario where he and Joe fight over the selfie shots between rounds.
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This is one of those mental pictures where it doesn't seem all that far-fetched.
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new trainer as well
Can't get my head around Garcia and Goosen at his own gym at this point. Comfort zone..for the Instagram champ. Hope Ryan gets back determined! But I can also see a scenario where he and Joe fight over the selfie shots between rounds.
may have been a case of being prioritized. obviously canelo would take priority. eddy i think also has vergil, andy, oscar, el rey
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new trainer as well
Can't get my head around Garcia and Goosen at his own gym at this point. Comfort zone..for the Instagram champ. Hope Ryan gets back determined! But I can also see a scenario where he and Joe fight over the selfie shots between rounds.
may have been a case of being prioritized. obviously canelo would take priority. eddy i think also has vergil, andy, oscar, el rey
Could also be an inflated ego and need to be literally the most visible at all times. He managed to surround himself with the very top minds in and out of the ring and improved..but took his ball and bolted when his discipline lapses were called out by same. Speaks volumes to me and don't be shocked if Tagoe date doesn't come off.
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new trainer as well
Can't get my head around Garcia and Goosen at his own gym at this point. Comfort zone..for the Instagram champ. Hope Ryan gets back determined! But I can also see a scenario where he and Joe fight over the selfie shots between rounds.
may have been a case of being prioritized. obviously canelo would take priority. eddy i think also has vergil, andy, oscar, el rey
Could also be an inflated ego and need to be literally the most visible at all times. He managed to surround himself with the very top minds in and out of the ring and improved..but took his ball and bolted when his discipline lapses were called out by same. Speaks volumes to me and don't be shocked if Tagoe date doesn't come off.
possibly. could also be more beneficial to his mental health in his own gym & a fresh start of sorts
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Re: Ryan Garcia v Emmanuel Tagoe
I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
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I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
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I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
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TitoFan
I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
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TitoFan
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TIC
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TitoFan
I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
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TitoFan
I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
loma is a hard out for anyone at lightweight. i think king ry could beat devin, gervonta & isaac. i see isaac as the toughest fight of the three. i could also see him beating george. another tough fight. i don't think we will see teo at one thirty five again. i also think he's better than jo jo & jorge is shot to bits. king ry would beat zaur. hopefully king ry can get back on track & get in a few fights this year
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TitoFan
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TitoFan
I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
loma is a hard out for anyone at lightweight. i think king ry could beat devin, gervonta & isaac. i see isaac as the toughest fight of the three. i could also see him beating george. another tough fight. i don't think we will see teo at one thirty five again. i also think he's better than jo jo & jorge is shot to bits. king ry would beat zaur. hopefully king ry can get back on track & get in a few fights this year
I'll be here when the so-called "King" (really a pauper) comes crashing down to Earth and gets turned into the Court Jester. He won't be able to withstand the mental grind, and go back to being Instagram King.
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Re: Ryan Garcia v Emmanuel Tagoe
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TitoFan
I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
loma is a hard out for anyone at lightweight. i think king ry could beat devin, gervonta & isaac. i see isaac as the toughest fight of the three. i could also see him beating george. another tough fight. i don't think we will see teo at one thirty five again. i also think he's better than jo jo & jorge is shot to bits. king ry would beat zaur. hopefully king ry can get back on track & get in a few fights this year
I'll be here when the so-called "King" (really a pauper) comes crashing down to Earth and gets turned into the Court Jester. He won't be able to withstand the mental grind, and go back to being Instagram King.
not all prospects reach their potential or hype. king ry wouldn't be the first & wouldn't be the last. no big deal. it's only entertainment
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I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
loma is a hard out for anyone at lightweight. i think king ry could beat devin, gervonta & isaac. i see isaac as the toughest fight of the three. i could also see him beating george. another tough fight. i don't think we will see teo at one thirty five again. i also think he's better than jo jo & jorge is shot to bits. king ry would beat zaur. hopefully king ry can get back on track & get in a few fights this year
I'll be here when the so-called "King" (really a pauper) comes crashing down to Earth and gets turned into the Court Jester. He won't be able to withstand the mental grind, and go back to being Instagram King.
not all prospects reach their potential or hype. king ry wouldn't be the first & wouldn't be the last. no big deal. it's only entertainment
Glad we agree.
Of course, it looks worse when the hype is self-promoted.
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I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
loma is a hard out for anyone at lightweight. i think king ry could beat devin, gervonta & isaac. i see isaac as the toughest fight of the three. i could also see him beating george. another tough fight. i don't think we will see teo at one thirty five again. i also think he's better than jo jo & jorge is shot to bits. king ry would beat zaur. hopefully king ry can get back on track & get in a few fights this year
I'll be here when the so-called "King" (really a pauper) comes crashing down to Earth and gets turned into the Court Jester. He won't be able to withstand the mental grind, and go back to being Instagram King.
not all prospects reach their potential or hype. king ry wouldn't be the first & wouldn't be the last. no big deal. it's only entertainment
Glad we agree.
Of course, it looks worse when the hype is self-promoted.
some guys have that charisma. they may not be the best but they have that something that draws fans to them. kind of like adrian i guess. he had a bigger following than his skills deserved
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I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
loma is a hard out for anyone at lightweight. i think king ry could beat devin, gervonta & isaac. i see isaac as the toughest fight of the three. i could also see him beating george. another tough fight. i don't think we will see teo at one thirty five again. i also think he's better than jo jo & jorge is shot to bits. king ry would beat zaur. hopefully king ry can get back on track & get in a few fights this year
I'll be here when the so-called "King" (really a pauper) comes crashing down to Earth and gets turned into the Court Jester. He won't be able to withstand the mental grind, and go back to being Instagram King.
not all prospects reach their potential or hype. king ry wouldn't be the first & wouldn't be the last. no big deal. it's only entertainment
Glad we agree.
Of course, it looks worse when the hype is self-promoted.
some guys have that charisma. they may not be the best but they have that something that draws fans to them. kind of like adrian i guess. he had a bigger following than his skills deserved
I would've thought you liked fighters who put results before the hype. But... what was I thinking... :D
Funny you should bring Adrian up. Another loser.
See... I don't sympathize nor follow any of those losers. All mouth... no results.
But to each his own. ;)
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By the way... that "something" Adrian Broner has that you call "charisma", I call being a punk who talks too much and can't back up his shit.
Which is why Maidana's beatdown of him remains one of my favorite fights to this day.
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I for one am not ready to give the kid a pass. For starters, IMO it's utterly ridiculous to have him ranked in the top five in 135. Loma, Davis, and Teo all sweep the floor with him. He's ridden the hype off one big fight, and is all about social media, calling himself "King", and all sorts of bullshit. He ridiculously talked about a fight vs Pac. Since when does a legend in boxing lower himself to fighting a boy still wet behind the ears? He's "got mental health issues"... so that makes him sort of untouchable from a criticism point of view. But the time to PUT UP OR SHUT UP is fast approaching... and if he doesn't live up to the hype, he's gonna have to take a demotion from "King" to "Pauper."
It's amusing how once the media falls in love with a young kid (good looks, a mouth to match, being American helps)... it's like a pitbull with a bone. They just won't let go.
i don't care for ratings, only who fighters fight. loma sure, who doesn't have a hard time with loma? tank struggled with isaac, it is not beyond possibility king ry could beat tank. is teo still at one thirty five? lots of nicknames don't fit in boxing. what fighter doesn't want to get a big fight against a huge name in the sport. jake would love to get a canelo fight. he is still only twenty three so time is on his side. lots of prospects have failed to live up to the hype
I don't care for ratings either, especially when they can have Garcia as a top 5.
would you be able to post your top five at one thirty five?
I'd easily put Loma, Kambosos, Davis, Haney, and Lopez ahead of Pauper Ry. And I'm being kind not putting Joseph Diaz and Linares ahead of him also.
Hell... even Pitbull Cruz kicks Hype Job's ass.
loma is a hard out for anyone at lightweight. i think king ry could beat devin, gervonta & isaac. i see isaac as the toughest fight of the three. i could also see him beating george. another tough fight. i don't think we will see teo at one thirty five again. i also think he's better than jo jo & jorge is shot to bits. king ry would beat zaur. hopefully king ry can get back on track & get in a few fights this year
I'll be here when the so-called "King" (really a pauper) comes crashing down to Earth and gets turned into the Court Jester. He won't be able to withstand the mental grind, and go back to being Instagram King.
not all prospects reach their potential or hype. king ry wouldn't be the first & wouldn't be the last. no big deal. it's only entertainment
Glad we agree.
Of course, it looks worse when the hype is self-promoted.
some guys have that charisma. they may not be the best but they have that something that draws fans to them. kind of like adrian i guess. he had a bigger following than his skills deserved
I would've thought you liked fighters who put results before the hype. But... what was I thinking... :D
Funny you should bring Adrian up. Another loser.
See... I don't sympathize nor follow any of those losers. All mouth... no results.
But to each his own. ;)
i do like fighters that put results before hype. king ry has a good win over luke. there is still work to be done. i'm just using adrian as a guy who was hyped & had a big following but was far from elite
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By the way... that "something" Adrian Broner has that you call "charisma", I call being a punk who talks too much and can't back up his shit.
Which is why Maidana's beatdown of him remains one of my favorite fights to this day.
some fighters have that something though, call it charisma, popularity whatever. they don't have to be the best but they bring in big crowds & dollars. they get offered big purses & opportunities that others with better skills are more deserving off. it is not always just the backing they have, they have that something that makes them a draw
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By the way... that "something" Adrian Broner has that you call "charisma", I call being a punk who talks too much and can't back up his shit.
Which is why Maidana's beatdown of him remains one of my favorite fights to this day.
some fighters have that something though, call it charisma, popularity whatever. they don't have to be the best but they bring in big crowds & dollars. they get offered big purses & opportunities that others with better skills are more deserving off. it is not always just the backing they have, they have that something that makes them a draw
I agree that many times more deserving fighters don't get the big purses... and yes... Broner is a good example of someone who's totally not deserving, yet managed to get a huge following at one point. That quickly wore off, however, when it became clear that he was more mouth than anything else. At that point, people tune in just to see him get his ass beaten. He has still made the big bucks, so I guess the whole schtick worked for him. Where I don't agree is where people say Broner has charisma. I think it's more of a morbidly weird, off the rails personality that some people are just curious to see. It sells... so I guess it serves its purpose.
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I like Garcia. It's hard not to. He's one of those. So far he's backed up his boasts. The win over Campbell was a good one. Good name, great pedigree. There are tougher tests ahead for sure but so far so good. We just have to accept that the social media side of things is the new norm. He's good at that too.
In a sport of machismo there is and will be for some time a stigma attached to any weakness, especially an apparent weakness of the mind. I've said it many times but we will accept a physical weakness, we won't suffer a mental one. Glass chin? No problem. Iffy stamina? Meh. Mental illness?!?! Not having it. You better be ready to fight at all times. If not, you're less of a fighter, less of a man and it's only a matter of time before that weakness manifests itself in the ring. Maybe, maybe not. I don't know what his mental health issues are but I'd imagine they aren't boxing related. Once you step over the white line, or the first bell or whistle goes, a different mentality takes over and you get to be freed from those demons. You'd better be anyway, or you'll be freed from consciousness.
Again bigger tests to come. Bigger punchers. But he literally took his crisis moment with Campbell on the chin and came back fighting. So far so good.
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What's not to like? He's personable... he's articulate... and he's identifiable for young people looking up to him. But when fame and hype precede the substance... that's where I have a problem. One good fight does not a star make. If so, we'd be flooded with phenoms with household names... calling themselves King, TBE, GOAT, etc. People are so hungry for a handsome young megastar (again... it doesn't hurt he's from the USA), that they'll jump on the bandwagon quicker than you can blink. Nobody's begrudging him his mental health issues. But too bad for the legions of past fighters that didn't have the luxury to cry "mental illness" and be given a pass from unexplained absences or subpar performances. Yeah... those were brutal times... but also times when fighters had to scratch and claw to get the type of notoriety Ryan seems to be getting for free. Then calling out Pac, FFS... :vd: A kid with barely 20 fights and one good fight under his belt.... calling out a legend. Shouldn't these things have to be earned? Sooo glad that never came off. If I were Pac's agent I would've never returned his calls in the first place. Time will tell. But anyone who starts off with that silver spoon in their mouths, courtesy of the media... already has two strikes with fans like me.
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Ryan Garcia‘s goal is ‘to become world champion this year’, boxing promoter Oscar De La Hoya has claimed.
Garcia, 23, will begin his comeback trail on his way back to the top of the sport against Emmanuel Tagoe.
The former WBC interim lightweight champion has not fought since his knockout victory over Luke Campbell in January 2021.
But according to De La Hoya, his goal is to become the real thing by the end of the year.
De La Hoya told DAZN: “The vision is to become world champion this year.
“That’s the bottom line. Like you have Kambosos fighting Haney, which I believe was confirmed. That’s going to be a great fight.
“And so, we’re going to look at the winner very carefully, and see what happens.
“But it’s a great fight, Kambosos-Haney. Who knows, maybe the winner?
“Or maybe we go a different route. Maybe we start negotiations with Tank Davis you know. I’m waiting for his promoter Al Haymon to give me a call and let’s make that fight happen.
“Why not? We’re here. We’re ready.
“But first thing is first April 9.”
If Garcia wins, he is likely to land a big-name fight such as Gervonta Davis, Devin Haney and George Kambosos Jr.
De La Hoya insisted, however, that this doesn’t mean that he is completely taking his eye off the ball when it comes to his opponent as he is well aware of the fact that he cannot to slip up.
Tagoe last fought in November 2020 and has not lost since losing on his debut over 15 years ago.
He carries a record of 32 wins and 1 loss with 15 of his victories coming by way of knockout.
De La Hoya added: “He’s fighting a guy who has nothing to lose.
“I think Ryan needs to come out and make a point but do it smart and careful.
“Ryan knows what he is doing. He’s a professional. He’s been there before so it’s going to be an interesting fight.
“Joe Goossen has been in the game for so many years. I’m glad they made the connection.”
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/sport/boxi...a3d614523de293
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Looks like this one will be batting 3rd in terms of main events to tune in for but just glad both actually showed up for the weigh in ;D. Should be decent. Pretty thin undercard with Gabe Rosado v Shane Mosley Jr :-X. Maybe I'll be totally off but think Rosado absolutely picks Jr apart and batters him. Marlen Esparza in action in what is a unification. She's pretty exciting and taking on Naoko Fujioka who is just about 47 yrs old. Oof.
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Dazn announcers on a bender today. Can we watch one fighter from Japan without referring to Samurais ffs ;D. Esparza rocked Fujioka in 2nd.
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Fujioka 3rd and missed the 4th because you know Dazn wants to refresh every 2 minutes :-X.
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Esparza 6th and Fujioka rocked her early 7th. Historically where would this rank oldest fighter wise for a fighter to unify. She doesn't fight like a 46 year old :-X
Womens boxing seriously needs to be 3 minute rounds
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Oof massive right lands square on Fujioka and Esparza follows with left hook. Say what you want about it, these women are swapping leather
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9th was nuts. Esparza early and Fujioka late. She apparently thought it was the final round so hope she didn't deflate. Gritty hard little scrap here
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Nice fight. Scores 100-90 x2..........I quit this crooked ass sport
THAT was absolute garbage wide .Horrendous score cards by two judges bought and paid for..criminal. It's just out in the open now. Not even a single lone round. Horseshit!
Esparza won
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Rosado v Mosley Jr walking out now. Mora gives advantages to Mosley Jr :-X
who is this ring announcer ???. Sounds exactly like Michael Buffer. Freakishly alike
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Mosley Jr v rosado should make pretty fun Viewing, both of them have their flaws but they are also good enough to make it entertaining...I'm not paying for this card though or even looking for a stream I'll watch the other stuff..
I see azat hovansomethingorother won again, the Armenian little guy, he's pretty good i like him.
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Mosley getting off double jabs and puts the right-left behind it a couple times, smart first. Rosado wide cupping lefts..and the Texas crown boos 1st :vd:
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More boos early 2nd ffs ;D. Rosado looking to size up the left hook but honestly posing too much. Get's stuck in that sometimes.
