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    Miranda blasts Abraham yet again!
    Promises to Take on Best at Super Middleweight

    February 16, 2008

    Edison Pantera Miranda has not had much to say about his former opponent Arthur Abraham in a long time. But in a recent interview he blasted him for not being a true champ. "Ever since I busted your jaw, you have fought nobody. But here you are bragging to the media about what solid opponents you’ve faced. Who are these guys? It is a joke that you never step it up like a true champion and fight a strong opponent.”

    Abraham will be facing Elvin Ayala (18-2-1, 8 KO’s) for his next title defense in late March. Miranda had some choice words about this opponent as well. “I could only laugh when I saw his next hand picked opponent. Ayala is a guy that lost not once, but two times to David Banks, a guy that I sent through the ropes with one punch. To make matters worse he brings all these bums into his backyard – a place where the referee treats him like his own daughter. If he had any balls, he would fly his ass to America and fight me at a catch weight of 165. I’d destroy him!”

    Miranda, who is well known to face any opponent anywhere, has his eyes set on Canadian Jean Pascal, the WBO 2nd ranked fighter in the world, for a possible June 7th showdown in Montreal. Miranda spoke highly of Pascal acknowledging that Pascal’s unblemished record is not an accident. “Edison Miranda is a real fighter. I fight the best available that have the courage to step in the ring with me. If I need to go to Montreal to fight Pascal, then I will. P! ascal will be my fourth undefeated opponent in my last seven fights. He is not only highly ranked but has an impressive record of 21-0 with a strong amateur background. I could sit back and accumulate easy wins like Abraham, but I choose to fight strong opponents. It’s not only my job as a boxer to do this, but it’s what the fans want to see. I look forward to putting on a show for the 20,000 Canadian fans projected to come to this fight.”

    Miranda (30-2, 26 KO’s) is currently ranked 4th in the WBC, 6th in the WBA, 7th in the IBF and 10th in the WBO and seems to be feeling much healthier and stronger after recently moving up to super middleweight. He has his eyes on fighting the best in the division. “I want to fight the best at super middleweight just like I did at middleweight. If he is ever man enough to fight me, I want to fight Taylor. He’s been avoiding me for years now. This is not only a fight that I want but all the fans want as well. After that, I’d love to get a rematch with Pavlik and show him what I’ve got at 168 when I am healthy. I will not only be champ at this weight class, but a champ who fights the very best – just like the old days.”

    For more information on Pantera including news, video, photos and merchandise visit www.panteraboxing.com.

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    Pantera is old school. You have to like the guy. I am not sure if he will be a champ at 168, but you know he will give it his all.

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    HaHa...Miranda blasts Abraham for fighting easy opposition and says that he fights "the best available" and "chooses strong fighters"...?!?I must have totally underestimated Banks... and Pascal...a total monster...lol...

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
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    Miranda vs Froch would be good

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    HaHa...Miranda blasts Abraham for fighting easy opposition and says that he fights "the best available" and "chooses strong fighters"...?!?I must have totally underestimated Banks... and Pascal...a total monster...lol...

    Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...
    Porras and Banks were his 2 comeback fights after getting beat by Pavlik and moving up in weight. Some guys never recover from such a beating and his team (and HBO) wanted these fights for him. Before that look at who he fight and in such a short time. Miranda is the last person you can give crap for not fighting enough or tough competition.

    Now he wants the best. He would fight Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik if they could make the fight. But these guys dont want him. So he is going to the backyard of Jean Pascal. Yes, he is the best available that is willing to fight and he is 100 times better than anything Abraham has looked at in the past 1.5 years.

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    Default Re: Pantera blasts Abraham.... and he is right!

    Not gonna get into all this Miranda-Abraham back and forth, couldn't give a shit, but considering Abraham seemed willing to fight pretty good competition as he was coming up having four subpar fights in a row is dissapointing.

    If Abraham doesn't wake up, what's at 160 for Pavlik. Apparently there's been some talk of Abraham coming to the U.S. next, doubtful that means Pavlik. He just needs to start taking some meaningful fights, wherever they are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantera View Post
    Porras and Banks were his 2 comeback fights after getting beat by Pavlik and moving up in weight. Some guys never recover from such a beating and his team (and HBO) wanted these fights for him. Before that look at who he fight and in such a short time. Miranda is the last person you can give crap for not fighting enough or tough competition.

    Now he wants the best. He would fight Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik if they could make the fight. But these guys dont want him. So he is going to the backyard of Jean Pascal. Yes, he is the best available that is willing to fight and he is 100 times better than anything Abraham has looked at in the past 1.5 years.


    LoL...you must be joking, cause I'm laughing again
    I've never even heard of Pascal before they started to built up this fight...
    Miranda shouldn't really wonder about other boxers opponents and mind his own business...

    As for fighting Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik...
    Why not start with Andrade, Bika, Froch, Inkin, Braehmer ,Tsypko there are alot of names at SM...But I guess it got to be Pascal...

    If a boxer is a loudmouth he should back it up somehow,but so far Miranda hasn't achieved nothing to back it...
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    Maybe Miranda shouldn't be talking, and I think Pascal is a pretty soft opponent for him, but he is right the AA has fought a lot of bums and refuses to travel. AA is good fighter, but it's clear Sven Ottke is one of his career advisors

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    Maybe Miranda shouldn't be talking, and I think Pascal is a pretty soft opponent for him, but he is right the AA has fought a lot of bums and refuses to travel. AA is good fighter, but it's clear Sven Ottke is one of his career advisors
    I can agree with that...but the year is still young and my hopes for AA high...
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    Miranda is definently an entertaining fighter to watch and of course I totally agree with his assesment of the situation with Abraham.

    We have seen Felix Sturm take his big shot vs Oscar De la Hoya and then fade into obscurity.....and it seems as if Arthur Abraham has chosen to take a similar career path and it's sad because his fight vs Miranda was a classic which he gutted out and won.


    I think these German fighters: Abraham, Sturm, and Sylvester are being overly cautious and denying us the fans extremely good fights.

    Amin Asikainen might be a little overly cautious with his career as well

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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    LoL...you must be joking, cause I'm laughing again
    I've never even heard of Pascal before they started to built up this fight...
    Miranda shouldn't really wonder about other boxers opponents and mind his own business...

    As for fighting Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik...
    Why not start with Andrade, Bika, Froch, Inkin, Braehmer ,Tsypko there are alot of names at SM...But I guess it got to be Pascal...

    If a boxer is a loudmouth he should back it up somehow,but so far Miranda hasn't achieved nothing to back it...
    You obviously are clueless as to the inside of boxing and how fights are setup. If HBO wants Miranda to fight any of the people you mentioned and they would take the fight, Edison would be on board. Just as he was leading up to the Pavlik fight. Without HBO he has no choice but to take a few buildup fights. Now the networks (HBO and SHO) are back behind him and he will fight whoever they can setup.

    Abraham, being the champ, hand picks whoever he wants. He is obviously picking the lowest caliber opponents that his network is willing to accept. He has not stepped in the ring with one worthy opponent since Miranda beat his ass. He has the options, Miranda just takes what the networks will give him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantera View Post
    You obviously are clueless as to the inside of boxing and how fights are setup. If HBO wants Miranda to fight any of the people you mentioned and they would take the fight, Edison would be on board. Just as he was leading up to the Pavlik fight. Without HBO he has no choice but to take a few buildup fights. Now the networks (HBO and SHO) are back behind him and he will fight whoever they can setup.

    Abraham, being the champ, hand picks whoever he wants. He is obviously picking the lowest caliber opponents that his network is willing to accept. He has not stepped in the ring with one worthy opponent since Miranda beat his ass. He has the options, Miranda just takes what the networks will give him.
    First of all AA doesn't pick his opponents,but his management does...
    AA will fight(just like your boy) whoever he is set up with...
    And secondly I don't even disagree that much with Miranda...I just think that he is in no position to speak, considering the opposition he fought...

    And btw "since Miranda beat his ass." haha...I think someone can't cope with a loss...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pantera View Post
    You obviously are clueless as to the inside of boxing and how fights are setup. If HBO wants Miranda to fight any of the people you mentioned and they would take the fight, Edison would be on board. Just as he was leading up to the Pavlik fight. Without HBO he has no choice but to take a few buildup fights. Now the networks (HBO and SHO) are back behind him and he will fight whoever they can setup.

    Abraham, being the champ, hand picks whoever he wants. He is obviously picking the lowest caliber opponents that his network is willing to accept. He has not stepped in the ring with one worthy opponent since Miranda beat his ass. He has the options, Miranda just takes what the networks will give him.
    In fairness to Abraham, he has a belt to defend and from time to time he needs to face an overrated highly ranked bum to keep his belt. God knows, B-Hop made a ton of soft mandatories. Gevor was the highest ranked avaible fighter when he took that fight, and it was a fight he was going to need to make sooner or later, just like he'll need to fight

    Still Wayne Elcock back to back with Evlin Ayala is pretty weak ass shit. Anybody got a reason why he hasn't fought Sturm to unify the German half of the title? Or cross off Sylvester or Asikainen from the list of manditories.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RozzySean View Post
    In fairness to Abraham, he has a belt to defend and from time to time he needs to face an overrated highly ranked bum to keep his belt. God knows, B-Hop made a ton of soft mandatories. Gevor was the highest ranked avaible fighter when he took that fight, and it was a fight he was going to need to make sooner or later, just like he'll need to fight

    Still Wayne Elcock back to back with Evlin Ayala is pretty weak ass shit. Anybody got a reason why he hasn't fought Sturm to unify the German half of the title? Or cross off Sylvester or Asikainen from the list of manditories.
    Sturm and Abraham are always saying they are willing to fight each other,but they are pretty good at avoiding each other...
    Abraham and Sylvster are stablemates, so I doubt this one will happen...
    As for Asikainen I don't know...
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    Quote Originally Posted by JohnnyKickAss View Post
    First of all AA doesn't pick his opponents,but his management does...
    AA will fight(just like your boy) whoever he is set up with...
    And secondly I don't even disagree that much with Miranda...I just think that he is in no position to speak, considering the opposition he fought...
    And his managment (Wilfred 'Mr Corruption' Sauerland) hand picks the softest opponents he can. Abraham should stand up and tell him he wants the best. Ultimately he has a say.

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