Pantera blasts Abraham.... and he is right!

[Pantera]

HaHa...Miranda blasts Abraham for fighting easy opposition and says that he fights "the best available" and "chooses strong fighters"...?!?I must have totally underestimated Banks... and Pascal...a total monster...lol...

Talk about the pot calling the kettle black...

Porras and Banks were his 2 comeback fights after getting beat by Pavlik and moving up in weight. Some guys never recover from such a beating and his team (and HBO) wanted these fights for him. Before that look at who he fight and in such a short time. Miranda is the last person you can give crap for not fighting enough or tough competition.

Now he wants the best. He would fight Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik if they could make the fight. But these guys dont want him. So he is going to the backyard of Jean Pascal. Yes, he is the best available that is willing to fight and he is 100 times better than anything Abraham has looked at in the past 1.5 years.

[OumaFan]

Not gonna get into all this Miranda-Abraham back and forth, couldn't give a shit, but considering Abraham seemed willing to fight pretty good competition as he was coming up having four subpar fights in a row is dissapointing.

If Abraham doesn't wake up, what's at 160 for Pavlik. Apparently there's been some talk of Abraham coming to the U.S. next, doubtful that means Pavlik. He just needs to start taking some meaningful fights, wherever they are.

[JohnnyKickAss]

Porras and Banks were his 2 comeback fights after getting beat by Pavlik and moving up in weight. Some guys never recover from such a beating and his team (and HBO) wanted these fights for him. Before that look at who he fight and in such a short time. Miranda is the last person you can give crap for not fighting enough or tough competition.

Now he wants the best. He would fight Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik if they could make the fight. But these guys dont want him. So he is going to the backyard of Jean Pascal. Yes, he is the best available that is willing to fight and he is 100 times better than anything Abraham has looked at in the past 1.5 years.

LoL...you must be joking, cause I'm laughing again
I've never even heard of Pascal before they started to built up this fight...
Miranda shouldn't really wonder about other boxers opponents and mind his own business...

As for fighting Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik...
Why not start with Andrade, Bika, Froch, Inkin, Braehmer ,Tsypko there are alot of names at SM...But I guess it got to be Pascal...

If a boxer is a loudmouth he should back it up somehow,but so far Miranda hasn't achieved nothing to back it...

[RozzySean]

Maybe Miranda shouldn't be talking, and I think Pascal is a pretty soft opponent for him, but he is right the AA has fought a lot of bums and refuses to travel. AA is good fighter, but it's clear Sven Ottke is one of his career advisors

[JohnnyKickAss]

Maybe Miranda shouldn't be talking, and I think Pascal is a pretty soft opponent for him, but he is right the AA has fought a lot of bums and refuses to travel. AA is good fighter, but it's clear Sven Ottke is one of his career advisors

I can agree with that...but the year is still young and my hopes for AA high...

[El Kabong]

Miranda is definently an entertaining fighter to watch and of course I totally agree with his assesment of the situation with Abraham.

We have seen Felix Sturm take his big shot vs Oscar De la Hoya and then fade into obscurity.....and it seems as if Arthur Abraham has chosen to take a similar career path and it's sad because his fight vs Miranda was a classic which he gutted out and won.


I think these German fighters: Abraham, Sturm, and Sylvester are being overly cautious and denying us the fans extremely good fights.

Amin Asikainen might be a little overly cautious with his career as well

[Pantera]

LoL...you must be joking, cause I'm laughing again
I've never even heard of Pascal before they started to built up this fight...
Miranda shouldn't really wonder about other boxers opponents and mind his own business...

As for fighting Calzaghe, Kessler, Taylor or even Pavlik...
Why not start with Andrade, Bika, Froch, Inkin, Braehmer ,Tsypko there are alot of names at SM...But I guess it got to be Pascal...

If a boxer is a loudmouth he should back it up somehow,but so far Miranda hasn't achieved nothing to back it...

You obviously are clueless as to the inside of boxing and how fights are setup. If HBO wants Miranda to fight any of the people you mentioned and they would take the fight, Edison would be on board. Just as he was leading up to the Pavlik fight. Without HBO he has no choice but to take a few buildup fights. Now the networks (HBO and SHO) are back behind him and he will fight whoever they can setup.

Abraham, being the champ, hand picks whoever he wants. He is obviously picking the lowest caliber opponents that his network is willing to accept. He has not stepped in the ring with one worthy opponent since Miranda beat his ass. He has the options, Miranda just takes what the networks will give him.

[JohnnyKickAss]

You obviously are clueless as to the inside of boxing and how fights are setup. If HBO wants Miranda to fight any of the people you mentioned and they would take the fight, Edison would be on board. Just as he was leading up to the Pavlik fight. Without HBO he has no choice but to take a few buildup fights. Now the networks (HBO and SHO) are back behind him and he will fight whoever they can setup.

Abraham, being the champ, hand picks whoever he wants. He is obviously picking the lowest caliber opponents that his network is willing to accept. He has not stepped in the ring with one worthy opponent since Miranda beat his ass. He has the options, Miranda just takes what the networks will give him.

First of all AA doesn't pick his opponents,but his management does...
AA will fight(just like your boy) whoever he is set up with...
And secondly I don't even disagree that much with Miranda...I just think that he is in no position to speak, considering the opposition he fought...

And btw "since Miranda beat his ass." haha...I think someone can't cope with a loss...

[Pantera]

First of all AA doesn't pick his opponents,but his management does...
AA will fight(just like your boy) whoever he is set up with...
And secondly I don't even disagree that much with Miranda...I just think that he is in no position to speak, considering the opposition he fought...

And his managment (Wilfred 'Mr Corruption' Sauerland) hand picks the softest opponents he can. Abraham should stand up and tell him he wants the best. Ultimately he has a say.

[JohnnyKickAss]

And his managment (Wilfred 'Mr Corruption' Sauerland) hand picks the softest opponents he can. Abraham should stand up and tell him he wants the best. Ultimately he has a say.

So does Miranda...

[Barlick]

And his managment (Wilfred 'Mr Corruption' Sauerland) hand picks the softest opponents he can. Abraham should stand up and tell him he wants the best. Ultimately he has a say.

If Abraham only fights soft, hand-picked opponents, how come he ever fought Miranda? Fact is, Abraham fought through and won despite a broken jaw. Now Miranda will have to display similar qualities despite a burst bubble.

[Pantera]

If Abraham only fights soft, hand-picked opponents, how come he ever fought Miranda? Fact is, Abraham fought through and won despite a broken jaw. Now Miranda will have to display similar qualities despite a burst bubble.

Miranda was his mandatory. He had no choice to fight or give up the belt. Gevor was his next mandatory when Miranda went to fight Pavlik instead of the rematch. Abraham is a champ, but gets no respect for his choice of opponents. If you respect him, than it doesnt take much for you, huh?

[Pugilistic]

i would like to see pavlik- abraham, i wouldn't mind a miranda abraham rematch either

[Kev]

I'm a big fan of King Arthur but there is no question his opposition, Miranda aside has been piss poor.

Miranda fought Howard Eastman when Eastman was still a somebody, the same Eastman who was unlucky to lose to Abraham. He fought an ubeaten Allen Green, he fought Kelly Pavlik as well and is now going to fight unbeaten Jean Pascal. Significantly he also travelled to Abraham's back yard to make that fight happen.

Even his softest fight against David Banks has still twice defeated Abraham's next world title opponent.

I'm losing all respect for Abraham right now, he's picking simply unworthy opponents. In back to back fights with Elcock and Alaya it's hard to pick another champion in the whole of boxing who is taking easier fights.

Miranda's level of competition is much higher, to deny this is simply to know nothing about boxing.

[RozzySean]

You obviously are clueless as to the inside of boxing and how fights are setup. If HBO wants Miranda to fight any of the people you mentioned and they would take the fight, Edison would be on board. Just as he was leading up to the Pavlik fight. Without HBO he has no choice but to take a few buildup fights. Now the networks (HBO and SHO) are back behind him and he will fight whoever they can setup.

Abraham, being the champ, hand picks whoever he wants. He is obviously picking the lowest caliber opponents that his network is willing to accept. He has not stepped in the ring with one worthy opponent since Miranda beat his ass. He has the options, Miranda just takes what the networks will give him.

In fairness to Abraham, he has a belt to defend and from time to time he needs to face an overrated highly ranked bum to keep his belt. God knows, B-Hop made a ton of soft mandatories. Gevor was the highest ranked avaible fighter when he took that fight, and it was a fight he was going to need to make sooner or later, just like he'll need to fight

Still Wayne Elcock back to back with Evlin Ayala is pretty weak ass shit. Anybody got a reason why he hasn't fought Sturm to unify the German half of the title? Or cross off Sylvester or Asikainen from the list of manditories.