Britain vote to leave the EU

[superheavyrhun]

I've tried to take the leave decision with good grace. Indeed, today at work I was polite and conciliatory with those who voted the other way, and sympathized with those who felt, like I do that we'd made a big mistake.

So, with that in mind, I'm really letting rip here, where I know y'all have thick skins and won't get offended by a few strong words.

But seriously, are 52% of my countrymen complete fucking morons?

Already today, the economic repercussions are being seen across the country and beyond. The value of our top 100 companies dropped by over 3%, while countries around the world saw drops in their values of even a higher proportion. Petrol prices are rising inversely with the drop in the value of the pound, as petrol is traded internationally in USD. So, even more expensive to get around. On a personal level, I wasn't best pleased to log in to my pension account to see several percent knocked off the overall value in one fucking shitty day.

Plus, on top of that, as I work in mortgages, even our managers were talking about the risks to our department going forward. Inevitably with the devaluation of our currency, imports are going to be more expensive meaning that inflation will be rising faster than it has in years. Hey, guess what, the government's own body, the MPC, is tasked with keeping inflation at under 2%, so within the year we'll be seeing interest rates increased after a great period of stability to try and keep inflation down within their mandated targets. As interest rates go up, mortgages are not quite as affordable as they were, and less people are buying them. Brilliant, add to the economic issues and the losses to my pension, jobs may become at risk if there isn't as much demand.

There are certainly industries that may benefit from being out of the EU - the EU fishing quotas and allowing countries to breach territorial waters for fishing was ridiculous. Plus, David Cameron is an absolute tool and must be regretting promising to call a referendum now. This was a decision that should be taken in parliament, especially with the clauses that were already in law to bring a referendum if there was constitutional change in the EU anyway. Cameron's arrogance is what gave us the months of propaganda and constant claims and counter-claims, often with both sides lacking evidence.

This morning Nigel Farage was backtracking on the promise for increased funding for the NHS...less than two hours after the Brexit was confirmed. Plus there were plenty of people who admitted on radio and TV that they voted leave, but never thought that leave would actually win, and then regretted it. Immigration fearmongering and an inability to fact check anything from the press all have their crosses to bear for this decision.

Seriously, we are a country of fucking morons.

[El Kabong]

Ah a Remain-ulan, a Remain-ist, a....what are the Remain-ers called.....is that it Remain-ers?



The markets will be in flux for a little bit and not ONLY because of Brexit but because of the PM resigning. You guys aren't even leaving the EU immediately it's like some 2 year process during which the "Remain Campaign" will rear up and attempt to link everything bad happening with Brexit and maybe enough happens to where you have another vote in a couple of years (or maybe not, I figure a nation that could/would/and did vote to ban guns wouldn't really see any other votes as all that permanent either).


Cheer up buttercup, I bring you good news! When Donald Trump wins the Presidency and the pound is devalued (and for no good reason, all of the currencies are rigged especially China's) there will likely be American expatriates who flee the States for England, and they will bring money, unlike the immigrants you have already accepted.


Did the EU REALLY govern in the favor of Britain? I mean, really!

[superheavyrhun]

Sorry Lyle, and I don't mean to sound dismissive, but the context of the US is very different to the UK. I know I have opinions on the US political situation, and you of course have opinions about the UK situation, but we are two very different beasts.

Our economy simply doesn't have the population to use to be able to keep so much domestic product within its borders, which the United States does. We have to have imports to maintain our current way of life, and once the tariffs from the EU start to kick in, we will be exporting less, plus those that export to us will likely have reciprocal tariffs which will make everything more expensive for everyone in this country.

Look, in my view the atmosphere here over the last 12 months has become increasingly toxic, and while I was never there, my knowledge of history can't help but make a comparison with the swing to the far right in Germany in the early 1930s.

No man is an island,
Entire of itself,
Every man is a piece of the continent,
A part of the main.
If a clod be washed away by the sea,
Europe is the less.
As well as if a promontory were.
As well as if a manor of thy friend's
Or of thine own were:
Any man's death diminishes me,
Because I am involved in mankind,
And therefore never send to know for whom the bell tolls;
It tolls for thee.

[Andre]

Did most people on the ground there basically see it as a vote for a free market without having to pay a massive cut to a middle man?
This initial fear based market drop will come back up. Time to work within and go for quality over quantity eh?

[Beanz]

The amount of bigoted small minded bullshit from many already on the first day is really disheartening. For those not from the UK or not living in the UK seriously we have had enough of being told what to do from people whose experience of being part of the EU is based on nothing but third hand bullshit and propaganda by manipulative self serving career politicians. It almost seems now that it is fine not only to be finally out as the bigot and racist that many always were, but to also be proud of it as though being isolationist extends to dismissing any opinion but their own, This was a very close vote not a case of the overwhelming majority wanting to leave. Young people have been F888ed over by crusty old deluded people pining after a glorious era that never was. It was shit in the 70's with racists in every school and xenophobia, sexism and general ignorance being the norm, not something to pine over.

Farage, Boris, Gove and IDS do not speak for me, they do not speak for my brothers Belgian girlfriend, my British friends living and working in Europe, they do not speak for young people, the disabled, teachers, doctors, my kids or grandkids or in fact anyone I know so don't lecture us on democracy. The NHS will be replaced by Private insurance, The education system already reeling will go down the pan along with my day job. Here in the westcountry we already had to rely on Europe to remind London we existed with our unique needs, and now will end up as little more then holiday homes for the elite that the small minded Brexiteers in here pretended to be deposing. We are f888ed.

[superheavyrhun]

Did most people on the ground there basically see it as a vote for a free market without having to pay a massive cut to a middle man?
This initial fear based market drop will come back up. Time to work within and go for quality over quantity eh?

The campaign actually had very little to do with what will actually be achieved by the exit from the EU. The topic that came up time and again was immigration, and the free movement of people. However, if we want the access to the free market of the EU, then free movement of people goes intrinsically with that, and if we want one without the other, the tariffs will be punitative.

The other aspect to the debate was the funding sent to the EU. Not only did we have a rebate and contribute less of our GDP as a percentage than any other country in the EU, the money that came back went to the poorest areas and most important industries. The question is, do we really believe that the wealthy English elite will give a flying f*** if Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland suffer without the support of a greater organization. Frankly, we are in a situation now where the wealthy will consolidate, and the poorest will suffer with rising prices and salaries that come nowhere near to keeping up with that inflation.

[Beanz]

Ah a Remain-ulan, a Remain-ist, a....what are the Remain-ers called.....is that it Remain-ers?



The markets will be in flux for a little bit and not ONLY because of Brexit but because of the PM resigning. You guys aren't even leaving the EU immediately it's like some 2 year process during which the "Remain Campaign" will rear up and attempt to link everything bad happening with Brexit and maybe enough happens to where you have another vote in a couple of years (or maybe not, I figure a nation that could/would/and did vote to ban guns wouldn't really see any other votes as all that permanent either).


Cheer up buttercup, I bring you good news! When Donald Trump wins the Presidency and the pound is devalued (and for no good reason, all of the currencies are rigged especially China's) there will likely be American expatriates who flee the States for England, and they will bring money, unlike the immigrants you have already accepted.


Did the EU REALLY govern in the favor of Britain? I mean, really!

FFS Lyle do not be so patronising. Maybe educate yourself by talking to people living here instead of relying on the media or the two clowns here who have no idea what they are talking about. The immigrants i know not only came to this country to work but created jobs for English people where there were none. I myself had to travel first to London and then to Italy in the 90's to work and I am grateful to the EU for that. Things are nothing like as binary as many would have you believe. They have no dog in the fight and think it is a game but thousands of small businesses will fold, investment in education and culture will plummet and the The United Kingdom may well break apart. It is already been split down the middle. Divide and Conquer, smoke and mirrors and real peoples lives will be affected it is not the parlour game that many here treat it like.

[Andre]

Did most people on the ground there basically see it as a vote for a free market without having to pay a massive cut to a middle man?
This initial fear based market drop will come back up. Time to work within and go for quality over quantity eh?

The campaign actually had very little to do with what will actually be achieved by the exit from the EU. The topic that came up time and again was immigration, and the free movement of people. However, if we want the access to the free market of the EU, then free movement of people goes intrinsically with that, and if we want one without the other, the tariffs will be punitative.

The other aspect to the debate was the funding sent to the EU. Not only did we have a rebate and contribute less of our GDP as a percentage than any other country in the EU, the money that came back went to the poorest areas and most important industries. The question is, do we really believe that the wealthy English elite will give a flying f*** if Wales, Scotland and Northern Ireland suffer without the support of a greater organization. Frankly, we are in a situation now where the wealthy will consolidate, and the poorest will suffer with rising prices and salaries that come nowhere near to keeping up with that inflation.

I see,
You are right they never did give a fuck they wont change now.

[X]

People remember where they were when Kennedy was shot.

People remember where they were when the Berlin Wall came down.

On this equally momentous day, when the UK voted to leave the European Union ..... I was lighting dog farts down the pub. 🤔

[superheavyrhun]

Seriously, what kind of pub allows you to light dog farts? The EU certainly would not allow that kind of activity at a pub....

[X]

I live in Somerset now. It was either that or burning a witch.

[brocktonblockbust]

I'm.moving to.Sunderland.

[brocktonblockbust]

International air show next month end, will be our 2nd attendance.

[Batman]

Take a walk around my area and you might be able to see why us "complete fucking morons" voted to leave.

I think the way the media has covered the result and the decision to leave has been nothing short of disgraceful, the people who voted to remain are showing themselves to be sore losers, they haven't shown the people who are pleased with the result it has all been about the shock and dismay of those who thought that there was no chance that the great unwashed would come together and out vote them.

The EU was originated mainly for trading purposes if I am not wrong, it has turned into 5 fat cats telling us what we can and can't do and even who we have to let into the country and how much money we have to hand over to the EU.

Yeah the markets taken a hit but it will recover it ain't going to be quick it will take a few years, the most important thing for us is to get the best possible PM in place to help take us forward.

[Mark TKO]

There was always going to be a blip in the economy if it went the way of exit.

The truth is none of us know what might happen.

My heart said one thing my head the other so in the end I decided not to vote as whatever the outcome I'd have regretted not voting the other way - my choice before anyone says anything.

Was the out vote based mostly on immigration? Answer is yes most likely. But those in power did fuck all to listen to - what turned out to be the majority - of the public so they only have themselves to blame.

I bet in reality it will make little difference going forward once everything has settled but the remain people are as said acting like sore losers to me. Very bitter.

Of course I could be wrong and it will be mayhem.

I'm not big on politics but it's apparent people have had enough of conventional no action politicians who just promise and do fuck all.

Theres no wonder The Don is as strong as he is now in the presidential race.


I'm just worried about my mobile phone roaming charges as ill be in Europe for four weeks out of the next 12. But I'm sure we could sort this out even without the EU.

We all now need to get on with it. It's done.

That is all