Ray Robinson vs Floyd Maweather @ 147 or 154

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

You choose. You decide. Who wins?

@Beanflicker
@ruthless rocco
@J_Undisputed
@greynotsoold
@imp
@C.J.Rock
@Ron Swanson
@Master

Lets decide..... Once and for all!
































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[Beanflicker]

It's funny because I've been on a huge SRR kick this last week or so, I've gone back and watched a lot of the old fights that I haven't seen in many years.

Sugar Ray was a great fighter, a true ATG legend in the sport, and actually stayed very good even into his late 30s and early 40s!

That being said... I think he benefits greatly from the "era bias", where the "experts" pass down this message that he was the greatest fighter who ever lived until it becomes gospel that everyone recites. People watch the highlight videos, they read the great stories of victory but they don't study the old fights with a critical eye.

As far as being the greatest in-ring talent of all time... I don't buy it. I think there were better technicians in the ring - Floyd and Pernell included.

And I'll say that other than having a clear punching power advantage over Floyd, I really don't see what he did better than Floyd in the ring. Floyd was the superior talent and I would pick him to win a (probably boring) decision in a fight that would largely be a fencing match.

[beenKOed]

Sugar Ray all the way! Robinson was one of those boxers who could produce the delayed KO! It's been a long time wish of mine to see Floyd, tippy-toeing across the ring with his chin behind his shoulder and then collapsing in his own corner after absorbing a KO punch from Robinson!
I know, I'm a mean spirited little bastard! I can't help it.

[Master]

Very easy answer Sugar Ray Robinson as he was a true welterweight and would smash that little shit around the ring as would have Ray Leonard and Hearns.

Floyd started at the lower weights so I have to give the wanker a break.

[ruthless rocco]

Sugar Ray is my favourite band.

[jon09]

I really hate to say it but after watching a lot of Ray Robinson footage I think he would have lost by decision to Money. I believe speed would have been the deciding factor because Ray was fast but Mayweather was faster and would have picked off Rays wide looping punches. Don't get me wrong SRR had power in both fist and could have made it real interesting up until the final bell.

[powerpuncher]

May weather would win some rounds but Robinson would be too much for Floyd. He is great at throwing multiple punches at a time and they are dangerous punches (as opposed to scoring punches). He wouldn't be afraid to get hit because he has an excellent chin. Robinson fights aggressive in this fight. He doesn't let Floyd relax. Floyd would have his moments of good counters but he wouldn't throw enough punches to win a decision IMO.

[powerpuncher]

And as the smartest person on the board, I'm offended that I wasn't tagged in this post.

[greynotsoold]

I spend a lot of time everyday with a guy that has sparred many rounds with Floyd; he is very fast and he hits very hard when he so chooses. The thing that stands out to me is his intelligence- you don't hit him the same way twice and, if you try, he will generally make you wish you hadn't.
I think that he and Robinson, at 147, are comparable in hand speed and, at that weight, Robinson moved as well as anybody. It was after his layoff that he stood and punched more. And he was very ring savvy on his own account; through his years at 147 he fought Gavilán twice, Zivic twice, LaMotta a bunch, Servo and Angott twice, Tommy Bell twice, Georgie Abrams, Bernard Docusen, Henry Armstrong. I think you get smarter fighting those guys than you do fighting Corrales, Hatton, Ortiz.
May weather does some things- the wide stance, leaning up on his left foot to jab, leaning on the pull counter (instead of moving weight on his feet)- that he gets away with because of speed and fighting dummies. Robinson is just as fast, just as smart as well as being taller and longer. Plus, he has fought guys with styles similar to Floyd's; Floyd never fought anybody even close to Robinson.

[mikeeod]

Floyd is an ATG but he really is a 140 pounder, where Ray was a big 147 pounder and likely TBE. I pick Ray to stop him. Ray was very fast, almost as good a boxer, but hit MUCH harder and had the toughness to just walk guys down and take their heart. Floyd would make him work for it, but I have Ray winning big.

[beenKOed]

And as the smartest person on the board, I'm offended that I wasn't tagged in this post.

I wasn't invited either and I have to say it hurts.

[C.J.Rock]

Very easy answer Sugar Ray Robinson as he was a true welterweight and would smash that little shit around the ring as would have Ray Leonard and Hearns.

Floyd started at the lower weights so I have to give the wanker a break.

Agree with everything but the last sentence I refuse to give that little shit a break

[Jimanuel Boogustus]

And as the smartest person on the board, I'm offended that I wasn't tagged in this post.

I wasn't invited either and I have to say it hurts.

Don't be sad. I'm not that good with names!

It's not you, it's me

[Master]

If Sugar would win at 147lb he would wipe Floyd at light middle but the reality is Mayweather would never dare fight such as risky fighter and would wait for a decline, accuse him of PED or weight drain him to make 140lb.

[Beanflicker]

He is great at throwing multiple punches at a time and they are dangerous punches (as opposed to scoring punches). He wouldn't be afraid to get hit because he has an excellent chin. Robinson fights aggressive in this fight. He doesn't let Floyd relax. Floyd would have his moments of good counters but he wouldn't throw enough punches to win a decision IMO.

Has to be said though, people said the exact same things about Pac.