Need DEB workout advice

[LazyJab]

I'dreally appreciate any constructive criticism of my double end bag workout routine. I feel kinda flat-footed at times.Please let me know how I can improve my technique coach!

Thanx!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvZyhzF0NsA

[Chris Nagel]

I'd tweak your setup. For one, have the bag suspended at about the same height as your head while in a semi-crouched stance. Two, give the line enough slack (but not too much) so that the bag will response like that of a punch.

I like the fact that you're moving around the bag, but don't just wait for the bag to stop moving, control it with your jab. You'll be jabbing solidly for the most part, but when you need to get the bag under control you use some quick non-committal, tapping jabs to keep it in control.

If you stop moving, have a good reason for doing so, otherwise you become a stationary target which is easier to hit.

A fun thing you can do is to hit the bag squarely with a hard right, which causes the bag to recoil violently like a counter punch. As it springs toward you, can slip it or let it bounce off of the heel of your glove. You can imagine throwing counters this way, catching and counter-jabbing, or slipping and then countering.

Try to control the bag, and don't worry to much about missing. In boxing, sometimes a missed punch can tell you something about your opponent. it can give you insight of their defensive patterns, and it can also invite them to throw a counter-punch. If you're thinking a step ahead you can defend against it and throw your own counter.

Anyways when you're hitting the bags, no matter which one, box it like an opponent. Treat it respect, imagine counters that you must avoid, and be alert about your mistakes. If you miss then use it to your advantage. Move in and out of range while circling, changing angles to set up a path to land a particular punch. Anything you can do do in the ring, see what can be done on the bag. You can be creative, really try to bring your imagination into your work as you treat the bag like an opponent.

[Youngblood]

Ya it's too high. You get used to throwing those sort of uppercuts and hooks you are setting yourself up to get countered. badly.

Nice workout with decent intensity though. If you want to practice getting off the flat of your feet, try moving around it without throwing punches first, and work on your movement. Then maybe shadow box a bit. It'll be easier to focus on it without throwing. Then approach it again.

[LazyJab]

I'd tweak your setup. For one, have the bag suspended at about the same height as your head while in a semi-crouched stance. Two, give the line enough slack (but not too much) so that the bag will response like that of a punch.

I like the fact that you're moving around the bag, but don't just wait for the bag to stop moving, control it with your jab. You'll be jabbing solidly for the most part, but when you need to get the bag under control you use some quick non-committal, tapping jabs to keep it in control.

If you stop moving, have a good reason for doing so, otherwise you become a stationary target which is easier to hit.

A fun thing you can do is to hit the bag squarely with a hard right, which causes the bag to recoil violently like a counter punch. As it springs toward you, can slip it or let it bounce off of the heel of your glove. You can imagine throwing counters this way, catching and counter-jabbing, or slipping and then countering.

Try to control the bag, and don't worry to much about missing. In boxing, sometimes a missed punch can tell you something about your opponent. it can give you insight of their defensive patterns, and it can also invite them to throw a counter-punch. If you're thinking a step ahead you can defend against it and throw your own counter.

Anyways when you're hitting the bags, no matter which one, box it like an opponent. Treat it respect, imagine counters that you must avoid, and be alert about your mistakes. If you miss then use it to your advantage. Move in and out of range while circling, changing angles to set up a path to land a particular punch. Anything you can do do in the ring, see what can be done on the bag. You can be creative, really try to bring your imagination into your work as you treat the bag like an opponent.

Thanks Chris, I was waiting for you to chime in. I love reading your comments because you're very knowledgeable about boxing and I always enjoy reading your posts.

I'll try lowering the bag a bit and implementing your other suggestions too. Good stuff! Thank you!

[LazyJab]

Ya it's too high. You get used to throwing those sort of uppercuts and hooks you are setting yourself up to get countered. badly.

Nice workout with decent intensity though. If you want to practice getting off the flat of your feet, try moving around it without throwing punches first, and work on your movement. Then maybe shadow box a bit. It'll be easier to focus on it without throwing. Then approach it again.

Yeah Chris also mentioned it's too high, thanks for catching that Youngblood! I'm gonna lower it for today's workout and try it out.

I really liked the idea of focusing on my movement WITHOUT throwing like you said so I can concentrate a bit more on what my feet are doing.

Thanks!

[Chris Nagel]

Ya it's too high. You get used to throwing those sort of uppercuts and hooks you are setting yourself up to get countered. badly.

Nice workout with decent intensity though. If you want to practice getting off the flat of your feet, try moving around it without throwing punches first, and work on your movement. Then maybe shadow box a bit. It'll be easier to focus on it without throwing. Then approach it again.

Yeah Chris also mentioned it's too high, thanks for catching that Youngblood! I'm gonna lower it for today's workout and try it out.

I really liked the idea of focusing on my movement WITHOUT throwing like you said so I can concentrate a bit more on what my feet are doing.

Thanks!

Grey has a good post on coordinating your footwork with punches: http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...ands-feet.html
It helps to practice it in shadow boxing, and then bring it into your bag sessions. It feels as awkward as learning how to walk all over again at first, but it feels more natural the more you practice it.

By the way, Scrap has some cool posts which use elastic cords to help with footwork, and punches too. Definitely worth checking out.

All the best

[LazyJab]

Thanks for the tips! I realized my footwork's off because I'm not leading with the correct foot. I noticed I'm stepping to the right with my left first sometimes and vice versa.

I need an audio recording in the background shouting out "WATCH THE FEET!".

Good to know even pros like Mike had to be constantly reminded of the basics as well, like in this video where his coach has to tell him to bend the knees or get more square;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aieHs3CJJB0