FROCH v TAYLOR - 25/4/09 - ITV1 Sunday replay!

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This eagerly anticipated matchup for the Cobras WBC Super Middleweight Belt is nearly here....

I think Froch will have Taylors number and expect Taylor to come out fast but Froch's natural strength to tell in the mid rounds with Taylor slowing down then being stopped by the 10th round.

Theres really no way i can see Taylor hurting Froch as i don't think he has that sort of power at 168 and Froch has a proven solid chin, Taylor can grab this on points if he can produce the same skills we know he posseses but rarely shows us (these days) and could literally box Carls head off if he's in the groove from the off.
But Taylors last few fights at the weight have been less than impressive and i for one question his heart when faced with a hungry warrior like Carl Froch who WILL take him into the trenches during this fight.

I predict what could be a contender for fight of the year and can't wait for this one

In this Corner : Carl Froch 1-on-1

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[Big Dick Whittington]

I've already got 30 of her majestys sterling riding on Froch between round 5 and 10 .
Froch will win this in brilliant style .

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He'll become an overnight superstar if he can take JT out in style too and i can really see him grabbing this with both hands and smashing Taylor all over the place.

Think Froch has got the fire in him to really do a number on Taylor and fully expect him to do so.!

[Hunter]

I think Taylor's skill and experience will win the day. I believe he will hurt Froch with punches and Froch will be picking himself up from the canvas at least once.

Taylor seems very determined and people dont seem to be giving him credit for his power.

I wouldnt be surprised if Taylor wins by TKO in the later rounds but I see this as a clear unanimous decision victory for Bad Intentions....

[Fenster]

I doubt he'll become an overnight superstar. This fight doesn't seem to be getting much attention over here.

The good news for Froch is - if he loses at least no one will see it.

[ukansodoff]

Taylor is the more skillfull of the 2, Froch is far from a pretty boxer. But i question whether Taylor can go 12 rounds at the relentless pace Froch will force upon him.

With this granite chin of his hes guna give Taylor no time to breath and Taylor tires and grinds to a halt these days.

But Froch has to be careful, Taylor will win the early rounds and Froch needs to make sure Taylor doesnt win TOO many of them just incase he cant take him out.

Infact if it goes the distance it will be a repeat of the Pascal fight scoring wise. Pascal kept up with Froch, infact I had him up after 5 and only when he tired did Froch begin to rack up the rounds. But Taylor if the same happens will win most if not all the 1st 5.

[RP33]

Taylor is the more skillfull of the 2, Froch is far from a pretty boxer. But i question whether Taylor can go 12 rounds at the relentless pace Froch will force upon him.

With this granite chin of his hes guna give Taylor no time to breath and Taylor tires and grinds to a halt these days.

But Froch has to be careful, Taylor will win the early rounds and Froch needs to make sure Taylor doesnt win TOO many of them just incase he cant take him out.

Infact if it goes the distance it will be a repeat of the Pascal fight scoring wise. Pascal kept up with Froch, infact I had him up after 5 and only when he tired did Froch begin to rack up the rounds. But Taylor if the same happens will win most if not all the 1st 5.

Would you consider Froch a bigger puncher than Pavlik? Taylor is no rookie to dealing with power and a relentless style.. He had pavlik out on his feet.. Taylor by UD, or EARLY stoppage.. Strange prediction, i know, but Taylor doesn't carry his power too well into the later rounds.. if he stops Froch it will be in the first half of the fight.. otherwise it will go to the cards with Taylor holding on for the last 2-3 rounds..

[Fenster]

I''ll be very surprised if Froch gets a decision in Taylor's backyard.

Taylor has a big speed advantage. He'll be bombing eye-catching crowd-whoopers, especially early doors, onto Froch's bonce, which will influence the judges greatly.

Froch has to stop him. I doubt he can do that unless Taylor fades badly.

[ono]

I''ll be very surprised if Froch gets a decision in Taylor's backyard.

Taylor has a big speed advantage. He'll be bombing eye-catching crowd-whoopers, especially early doors, onto Froch's bonce, which will influence the judges greatly.

Froch has to stop him. I doubt he can do that unless Taylor fades badly.

I'm going with the fenster on this one. He's prediction champion for a reason (reason being because i didn't enter )

Anyway i see Taylor starting with a point to prove and outboxing Froch for the first few. Then it will all depend on whether or not Taylor folds when he gets tagged. I'd say Froch has quite a bit more power than Pavlik and clearly has a better chin so the only way for Taylor to win is to stay out of trouble and use his speed and ring smarts for 12 rounds. Should be quite gripping.

[Rantcatrat]

I''ll be very surprised if Froch gets a decision in Taylor's backyard.

Taylor has a big speed advantage. He'll be bombing eye-catching crowd-whoopers, especially early doors, onto Froch's bonce, which will influence the judges greatly.

Froch has to stop him. I doubt he can do that unless Taylor fades badly.

It isn't really Taylor's backyard - Taylor is from Arkansas and the fight is in Connecticut. As anyone from the US will tell you, there is a big difference between Arkansas and Connecticut; I imagine it is comparable to the difference between Cardiff and London. For example, to the extent Calzaghe would have a hometown advantage versus a foreign fighter in London, Taylor, will have that same advantage (perhaps to a lesser extent because Calzaghe is bigger in Britain than Taylor is in the US), in Connecticut versus Froch. Of course, the crowd will be pro-Taylor (you can count on that from at least one spectator ), but more because of his notoriety than because of a specific allegiance to Taylor.

That said, I agree Froch has to stop him because Taylor will win more rounds due to his advantages in speed. Look at the evidence: besides his second fight with Pavlik, in which Pavlik was the rising superstar and coming off a highlight reel KO, Taylor has never lost a fight on the cards even when the challengers gave good efforts (Hopkins, Spinks etc). In order to win on the cards, Froch needs to show Taylor his power in the early rounds, gain Taylor's respect, much like KP was able to do in Pavlik v. Taylor II, and then hustle and win the last few rounds. Does he have the power to gain Taylor's respect? Maybe.

Personally, I'm not sold yet on Froch's chin and power. For Froch, clearly a chin is essential because his defense is abysmal. He couldn't knock out Pascal. Why should we be convinced of his power? Who has he knocked out that has a reputable chin (that wasn't meant to be rhetorical)? Pavlik's power is widely heralded and proved - he was the first person to knock out both Miranda and Taylor.

Taylor has the advantages in speed, experience, and fight location. The safe pick is Taylor.

Interesting fact: Froch was beat by Denis Inkin in the amateurs.

[Fenster]

I''ll be very surprised if Froch gets a decision in Taylor's backyard.

Taylor has a big speed advantage. He'll be bombing eye-catching crowd-whoopers, especially early doors, onto Froch's bonce, which will influence the judges greatly.

Froch has to stop him. I doubt he can do that unless Taylor fades badly.

It isn't really Taylor's backyard - Taylor is from Arkansas and the fight is in Connecticut. As anyone from the US will tell you, there is a big difference between Arkansas and Connecticut; I imagine it is comparable to the difference between Cardiff and London. For example, to the extent Calzaghe would have a hometown advantage versus a foreign fighter in London, Taylor, will have that same advantage (perhaps to a lesser extent because Calzaghe is bigger in Britain than Taylor is in the US), in Connecticut versus Froch. Of course, the crowd will be pro-Taylor (you can count on that from at least one spectator ), but more because of his notoriety than because of a specific allegiance to Taylor.

That said, I agree Froch has to stop him because Taylor will win more rounds due to his advantages in speed. Look at the evidence: besides his second fight with Pavlik, in which Pavlik was the rising superstar and coming off a highlight reel KO, Taylor has never lost a fight on the cards even when the challengers gave good efforts (Hopkins, Spinks etc). In order to win on the cards, Froch needs to show Taylor his power in the early rounds, gain Taylor's respect, much like KP was able to do in Pavlik v. Taylor II, and then hustle and win the last few rounds. Does he have the power to gain Taylor's respect? Maybe.

Personally, I'm not sold yet on Froch's chin and power. For Froch, clearly a chin is essential because his defense is abysmal. He couldn't knock out Pascal. Why should we be convinced of his power? Who has he knocked out that has a reputable chin (that wasn't meant to be rhetorical)? Pavlik's power is widely heralded and proved - he was the first person to knock out both Miranda and Taylor.

Taylor has the advantages in speed, experience, and fight location. The safe pick is Taylor.

Interesting fact: Froch was beat by Denis Inkin in the amateurs.

You know what I mean.

Wherever the fight was taking place in the UK it would be labled Froch's "backyard." When really only Nottingham is.

[Hunter]

Does any one know if Froch has ever been wobbled or down in a fight?

[Fenster]

Does any one know if Froch has ever been wobbled or down in a fight?

Never down. Ive seen him stopped in his tracks but never looking in the slightest bit wobbly.

[HattonTheHammer]

Does any one know if Froch has ever been wobbled or down in a fight?

Never down. Ive seen him stopped in his tracks but never looking in the slightest bit wobbly.

very good point fenst about it not getting much attention, saying that checking the listings i dont even think its being shown over here at all

Feel bad for frochy as he deserves better than that and will no doubt i`ll somehow find a way to watch the fight sunday morning and cheer him on to what i suspect will indeed be a hard earned points victory!!

Taylor has the power and the reach but carls just too clever a fighter for the likes of jermain.

Froch taking either a 116-112 or a 117-111

[Hunter]

Does any one know if Froch has ever been wobbled or down in a fight?

Never down. Ive seen him stopped in his tracks but never looking in the slightest bit wobbly.

very good point fenst about it not getting much attention, saying that checking the listings i dont even think its being shown over here at all

Feel bad for frochy as he deserves better than that and will no doubt i`ll somehow find a way to watch the fight sunday morning and cheer him on to what i suspect will indeed be a hard earned points victory!!

Taylor has the power and the reach but carls just too clever a fighter for the likes of jermain.

Froch taking either a 116-112 or a 117-111

HMMM...interesting - So that would make Carl more clever than Bernard Hopkins??

There is no way Carl will be too clever for Taylor. Froch's only chance of beating Taylor is to wear him down and beat him up but with Froch's shaky defense and with Taylor seemingly more determined and training harder than ever I dont see it happening.....