Froch - Chavez Jnr talks back on

[Tam Seddon]

Hearn Aims To Get Froch-Chavez Talks Back on Track - Boxing News

Can't say I'm interested in this fight at all...Degale is more deserving!

[Tam Seddon]

Carl Froch close to securing dream fight with Julio Cesar Chavez Jnr in Las Vegas* | Daily Mail Online

[p4pking]

I'm interested, it will be an all action fight with Jr almost certainly getting beat up down the stretch, couldn't be a bad watch.

Of course DeGale is way more dangerous, but Froch would make more money fighting JR so it's a no brainer for him. Since he wants to fight in Vegas it's about the only guy he could sell a fight with there to boot, unfortunately.

[Primo Carnera]

to be fair, Froch has earnt the right to do what he wants, but I couldn't really give a fuck.
what baffles me is if Froch has to give up his title to fight Chavez , how is the fight gonna be worth any money? It's already pretty clear that Froch isn't that highly rated in the US, otherwise they would be begging him to fight guys over there.
I believe Froch when he says he can't get motivated for Degale, but I do think he rates himself and his "Legacy" way too high. it's a pretty shit division if someone like Chavez (who was found out at the rate below and only moved up because he can't dedicate himself enough.) can be seen as a top contender. Furthermore, the guy who EVERYBODY agrees is the best in the division is basically semi-retired.
Froch will fight Kessler in a meaningless "Masters" Circus type of fight which will be akin to Rocky 6!
btw, Kessler used to be my favourite fighter, but he's pissed me off as well lately, virtually begging Froch and Ward for a fight when he's not been in a ring for 18 months , and the last fight he had , he looked finished.

[erics44]

I'm interested, it will be an all action fight with Jr almost certainly getting beat up down the stretch, couldn't be a bad watch.

Of course DeGale is way more dangerous, but Froch would make more money fighting JR so it's a no brainer for him. Since he wants to fight in Vegas it's about the only guy he could sell a fight with there to boot, unfortunately.

would froch make more from JR?

wouldnt degale froch sell a big stadium and a lot of ay per view over here?

[p4pking]

I'm interested, it will be an all action fight with Jr almost certainly getting beat up down the stretch, couldn't be a bad watch.

Of course DeGale is way more dangerous, but Froch would make more money fighting JR so it's a no brainer for him. Since he wants to fight in Vegas it's about the only guy he could sell a fight with there to boot, unfortunately.

would froch make more from JR?

wouldnt degale froch sell a big stadium and a lot of ay per view over here?

They charge you guys quite a bit less a pop for PPVs, which still brings in a lot more than the gate even with that many in attendance. Was Froch's first fight with Groves PPV, and any idea how many it sold if so?

For example, Chavez Jr-Martinez did about exactly half the buys Froch-Groves 2 did, which still equals close to the same PPV revenue. There is no way fighting DeGale would be anywhere near as big as the Groves rematch, right?

[Fenster]

Froch has two titles.

If he's not big in the US then how come every fighter from middle to Light Heavy call him out all the time? Of course he's not a "superstar" over there but that's because his main audience lies in Britain. At the moment, he's the money at supermiddle.

I'd prefer to see him face Chavez jr.

I'm not that interested in the DeGale fight. Let DeGale fight for the vacant title and establish his own legacy, set up a big rematch with Groves, Callum Smith etc

[Primo Carnera]

Froch has two titles.

If he's not big in the US then how come every fighter from middle to Light Heavy call him out all the time? Of course he's not a "superstar" over there but that's because his main audience lies in Britain. At the moment, he's the money at supermiddle.



I'd prefer to see him face Chavez jr.

I'm not that interested in the DeGale fight. Let DeGale fight for the vacant
title and establish his own legacy,
set up a big rematch with Groves, Callum Smith etc

I agree about Degale, but everybody isn't calling him out. GGG never did, that's fabricated by the Media (Mainly British) Ward never called him out, he clearly said "either call me or stop using my name!" That leaves Chavez and BHop. Yeah, they'd fight him , 1.because they're money whores 2. Because they think he's easy work, and 3. Because they see Froch make £8mill plus for a domestic dust up and would like a bit of that.
However, most importantly, the promoters aren't talking these fights up because they know the figures for Froch in the States can't compare because nobody is remotely interested in him.
Also , Hearn wants it in England otherwise he makes next to nothing.
All this means he takes a big drop in money and goes to Vegas, or he fights against Kessler and takes a slightly less drop in money in a meaningless fight.

[erics44]

I'm interested, it will be an all action fight with Jr almost certainly getting beat up down the stretch, couldn't be a bad watch.

Of course DeGale is way more dangerous, but Froch would make more money fighting JR so it's a no brainer for him. Since he wants to fight in Vegas it's about the only guy he could sell a fight with there to boot, unfortunately.

would froch make more from JR?

wouldnt degale froch sell a big stadium and a lot of ay per view over here?

They charge you guys quite a bit less a pop for PPVs, which still brings in a lot more than the gate even with that many in attendance. Was Froch's first fight with Groves PPV, and any idea how many it sold if so?

For example, Chavez Jr-Martinez did about exactly half the buys Froch-Groves 2 did, which still equals close to the same PPV revenue. There is no way fighting DeGale would be anywhere near as big as the Groves rematch, right?

im not sure actually

i know some on here are saying they arent interested in froch degale, i am tho, i always thought a froch degale fight would be more interesting than froch groves

[Tam Seddon]

Hearn Could See Froch-Chavez, DeGale-Ramirez Double - Boxing News

its looking like Froch - Chavez and then Degale will fight Ramirez for the vacant title. Then the winners fight at Wembley.

[erics44]

Hearn Could See Froch-Chavez, DeGale-Ramirez Double - Boxing News

its looking like Froch - Chavez and then Degale will fight Ramirez for the vacant title. Then the winners fight at Wembley.

i like it

[Nameless]

Chavez Jr is the hell of a lazy fellow and of a slacker. I think that he mainly achieved glory by a long long career of riding his father's name and of show cleverly orchestrated by Top Rank to attract mAssively mexican/hispanic fans but in the end, his own ethics will break him from being a really meaningful boxer and beating all the names he should be fighting.

[Fenster]

Froch has two titles.

If he's not big in the US then how come every fighter from middle to Light Heavy call him out all the time? Of course he's not a "superstar" over there but that's because his main audience lies in Britain. At the moment, he's the money at supermiddle.



I'd prefer to see him face Chavez jr.

I'm not that interested in the DeGale fight. Let DeGale fight for the vacant
title and establish his own legacy,
set up a big rematch with Groves, Callum Smith etc

I agree about Degale, but everybody isn't calling him out. GGG never did, that's fabricated by the Media (Mainly British) Ward never called him out, he clearly said "either call me or stop using my name!" That leaves Chavez and BHop. Yeah, they'd fight him , 1.because they're money whores 2. Because they think he's easy work, and 3. Because they see Froch make £8mill plus for a domestic dust up and would like a bit of that.
However, most importantly, the promoters aren't talking these fights up because they know the figures for Froch in the States can't compare because nobody is remotely interested in him.
Also , Hearn wants it in England otherwise he makes next to nothing.
All this means he takes a big drop in money and goes to Vegas, or he fights against Kessler and takes a slightly less drop in money in a meaningless fight.

HBO had a whole segment on Froch during GGG's last fight, quoting him to make it look like he was ducking him, then defending him and explaining why Froch is the "money" at the moment. Why would they be linking GGG-FRoch if they didn't think it was a big deal?

Chavez jr is having a contract dispute with Bob Arum, that's why he hasn't been fighting. It's a lack of American based opponents for Froch not a lack of interest in him.

Name a current fighter not named Floyd, Manny or Wlad that has been close to a £8 million payday?

[powerpuncher]

Chavez Jr is the hell of a lazy fellow and of a slacker. I think that he mainly achieved glory by a long long career of riding his father's name and of show cleverly orchestrated by Top Rank to attract mAssively mexican/hispanic fans but in the end, his own ethics will break him from being a really meaningful boxer and beating all the names he should be fighting.

the funny thing is that this is so blatantly obvious, yet many people dont see it. it seems that there are a lot of people that still try to defend chavez as if he really is a top contender.

i dont mind this fight for froch's sake since he has earned being able to fight in vegas. its a perfect fight for him. he gets to fight in vegas and make good money by fighting a big name who isnt very good. he will look impressive because of that.

[Rantcatrat]

I really like this fight in Vegas. It's huge. I favor Froch big time in a way, but Junior has a world class chin. I can't recall when's even been buzzed before, let alone knocked own or out. Of course, that could be due in part to his competition. Strangely, he'll be the bigger man than Froch on fight night. I think it's a fun, interesting fight. I'm all for it.

If Froch wins, I must say I like the idea of GGG against Froch in the UK. In terms of legacy, I don't really see the need for Froch to have another strong domestic win against the likes of Groves/DeGale. If Ward is still out of the game, Froch against GGG might be the best at 160 against the best at 168.