The Blueprint to beat Broner.

[Vendettos]

Lets look at his last 2 fights.

Gavin Rees - hit Broner numerous times until round 3, landing quick combos, but lacked the power to really trouble him, but he went forward for most of the fight and although Broner wasn't in danger at all, Rees just showed me that Broner isn't as good defensively as he thinks he is.

Paulie - Broner struggled a bit more and nothing landed solid on Paulie really, Paulies jab worked a treat and Broner looked very flat at times. The body shots landed every time Paulie threw one.


Do you think these two guys, who are not big punchers have set the blueprint on beating Broner?

I'm not the kind of person that watches fights and looks for weaknesses, but these ones jump out at me because he's supposed to be the next big thing.

Plus he didn't seem anywhere near as powerful at WW.

Now say Matthysse lands a flush shot? or Maidana lands one?

Or what if he fought Khan? I think Khan dances round him, Khan is, in my eyes the fastest hands in the division, maybe even boxing in general, and he's not entirely feather fisted, he can drop people.

Thoughts?

[erics44]

lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes

[Vendettos]

lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes

The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

[p4pking]

lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes

The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

I don't think you can say its that simple with Khans chin. Amir would win every second of the fight he didn't spend on queer street, but he'd have to be so careful and could go at any second. Broner is a better counter puncher than Danny Garcia or Julio Diaz that's for sure. I think there's also a pretty good chance Khan is half spent myself.

[Master]

At welterweight he could be out boxed by Devon and Khan who have the height, reach and speed. Bradley has better conditioning.

Floyd is faster and all round better.

Unsure what is left of Manny and JMM. At light welter Garcia and Mattyhsse have the power to hurt Broner and beat him.

[Spicoli]

You really don't need a master blue print, just a hard hat, a pick and an axe so to speak. He's really not that complicated it would appear. He is a very very complacent type who waits and expects his counter opportunity more than assert at setting them up. And he looks to do it all for the most part in a straight tall line with little to no lateral movement. I am hard pressed to think of a spell over last few where he has even tried to find his backfoot...set up off the side or just plain show this "outstanding boxer" he proclaims to be. He's an inside fighter with not great defense, flat wide feet and its not so much a shoulder roll as its more used as a shoulder wall to back opponents. Walls can be scaled, gone around. Work rate fast hands behind a good jab and an immunity to bullshit slight of hands and over sold facial expressions will beat him. He's biting a style he knows little of.

[Vendettos]

lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes

The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

I don't think you can say its that simple with Khans chin. Amir would win every second of the fight he didn't spend on queer street, but he'd have to be so careful and could go at any second. Broner is a better counter puncher than Danny Garcia or Julio Diaz that's for sure. I think there's also a pretty good chance Khan is half spent myself.

This is not lightweight though, he's not that powerful at WW, I could clearly see that, I mean khan Tkod Malignaggi and Broner couldn't.


Khan is taller and has a better reach than Broner and he's quicker and he moves with ease.

I see khan just dancing circles around Broner.

I've already seen Broner is 2 very close fights against average guys.

I say it again, he's not everything that people say he is.

[p4pking]

lets be honest he won fairly comfortably in both of those fights

yeah both fighters landed a few and pauli even won his fair share of rounds but broner never really looked out of his comfort zone

i think if the punches had have been heavier he would have adapted

i dont like him and would like to see him KOed as it seems everyone else would

hes a big fella for a lightweight and looks more at home at welter, once he starts fighting better welterweights / light welters then lets see then how he copes

The Rees fight was comfortable, but I scored it 1 round to Broner vs Paulie so not that comfortable.

If Broner was up against Khan on Saturday he'd have a loss. Plain and simple.

I don't think you can say its that simple with Khans chin. Amir would win every second of the fight he didn't spend on queer street, but he'd have to be so careful and could go at any second. Broner is a better counter puncher than Danny Garcia or Julio Diaz that's for sure. I think there's also a pretty good chance Khan is half spent myself.

This is not lightweight though, he's not that powerful at WW, I could clearly see that, I mean khan Tkod Malignaggi and Broner couldn't.


Khan is taller and has a better reach than Broner and he's quicker and he moves with ease.

I see khan just dancing circles around Broner.

I've already seen Broner is 2 very close fights against average guys.

I say it again, he's not everything that people say he is.

I don't disagree with any of this, it's just that Khan has absolutely no punch resistance. He was in serious trouble against a badly faded never was lightweight in his last go, Broner is at least more dangerous than Diaz. As I said, Khan could probably box his head off as long as he didn't get touched, but I wouldn't be confident about that at this point. Half of it is down to Khan not looking quite as sharp offensively either, had he just shown the form he did against Malignaggi it would be easy to say he'd beat Broner right now, but who knows where he is really at.

I like the fight and all, just can't see either side being eager to make it happen.

[Hulk]

Lets look at his last 2 fights.

Gavin Rees - hit Broner numerous times until round 3, landing quick combos, but lacked the power to really trouble him, but he went forward for most of the fight and although Broner wasn't in danger at all, Rees just showed me that Broner isn't as good defensively as he thinks he is.

Paulie - Broner struggled a bit more and nothing landed solid on Paulie really, Paulies jab worked a treat and Broner looked very flat at times. The body shots landed every time Paulie threw one.


Do you think these two guys, who are not big punchers have set the blueprint on beating Broner?

I'm not the kind of person that watches fights and looks for weaknesses, but these ones jump out at me because he's supposed to be the next big thing.

Plus he didn't seem anywhere near as powerful at WW.

Now say Matthysse lands a flush shot? or Maidana lands one?

Or what if he fought Khan? I think Khan dances round him, Khan is, in my eyes the fastest hands in the division, maybe even boxing in general, and he's not entirely feather fisted, he can drop people.

Thoughts?

The blue print is simple....match Broner with someone his own size, who is good and can punch.

[ICB]

Didn't Broner also get a gift decision early in his career against Fernando Quintero ? i'll have to watch that fight sometime, to see what type of style Quintero had to trouble Broner so much.

You could say arguably Broner could have 2 losses on his record right now.

[Vendettos]

Didn't Broner also get a gift decision early in his career against Fernando Quintero ? i'll have to watch that fight sometime, to see what type of style Quintero had to trouble Broner so much.

You could say arguably Broner could have 2 losses on his record right now.

I scored the PDL fight close also.

[ray corso]

Rees was simply goated into having false hopes! Broner felt him and knew he didn't have the power so he let Rees come forward without consequences! When Broner gaged him and then opened up on him Rees was gone!
Paulie was very different because he was on the move all the time! I personally think Broner over hydrated and wasn't comfortable and wasn't at his best! Again when he came out of the cross-armed defense and opened up on Paulie Mags ran pretty quickly!
I'm not a fan of cross-armed defense in the middle of ring I like it on the ropes or at close range but in the center your two handed attack is absent!
Broner shouldn't have any problems with opponents until they decide to stay at 47, he will grow out of 35 and 40 if he hasn't all ready. At his age he's maturing quickly now so he may have grown out of weight classes now!
People keep comparing Broner to Floyd, ridiculous! Bottom line is Floyd is a counter guy first and foremost where as Broner takes the center of the ring and dares his opponents to take it from him!
He is offensive minded and likes to counter, when he has an agressive fighter in front of him the fireworks will begin!
I want to see him under fire to see if he looses focus then I can get a full evaluation of him. Until then I know he has talent & skills and he's passing his tests!! Ray

[ICB]

Didn't Broner also get a gift decision early in his career against Fernando Quintero ? i'll have to watch that fight sometime, to see what type of style Quintero had to trouble Broner so much.

You could say arguably Broner could have 2 losses on his record right now.

I scored the PDL fight close also.

Has anyone on here actually seen the Quintero fight ? i've heard its pretty controversial. I might watch it tomorrow to see for myself and maybe put a scorecard up here.

[Spicoli]

Didn't Broner also get a gift decision early in his career against Fernando Quintero ? i'll have to watch that fight sometime, to see what type of style Quintero had to trouble Broner so much.

You could say arguably Broner could have 2 losses on his record right now.

I scored the PDL fight close also.

Has anyone on here actually seen the Quintero fight ? i've heard its pretty controversial. I might watch it tomorrow to see for myself and maybe put a scorecard up here.

@ ICB Totally forgot we called that one here He actually sounded like an even bigger tool then, hard to imagine. The yippy was a thank God its over yippy
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