does lara want everybody to hate him?

[powerpuncher]

he is crying robbery and wants an investigation for the fight. i had canelo winning 115-113. it could have gone either way and was in no way a robbery. i agree that the 117-111 scorecard was a bit wide, but not insanely wide. more boxers need to just say that they thought they won the fight and move on. lara has gotten gifts before. i didnt mind him before this fight but now im not at all a fan.

[Ron Swanson]

Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".

[Gandalf]

I scored it 7-5 for Lara too. The person the fight makes me dislike more is Canelo who seems very arrogant and dismissive of a rematch. It's is correct to give a rematch after a close fight. 'Ooh, he wouldn't stand in front of me and let me hit him the head.....He needs to learn to fight!'. Are you serious, Canelo? Lara won a fight and is annoyed and he is the one that everyone wants to hate? What a strange planet of perception disconnect.

[powerpuncher]

I scored it 7-5 for Lara too. The person the fight makes me dislike more is Canelo who seems very arrogant and dismissive of a rematch. It's is correct to give a rematch after a close fight. 'Ooh, he wouldn't stand in front of me and let me hit him the head.....He needs to learn to fight!'. Are you serious, Canelo? Lara won a fight and is annoyed and he is the one that everyone wants to hate? What a strange planet of perception disconnect.

i do agree with that too. canelo made himself look bad with those comments. i dont think there needs to be a rematch because i doubt there is much demand for it. i would be alright with one but i just dont think most people care. canelo has other options.

[ruthless rocco]

Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".

Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.

[jon09]

Besides steroid or other drugs being used I have never seen an investigation overturn any decision for bad scoring. So Lara needs to suck it up and move on.

[beenKOed]

Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".

Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.

I don't agree that some of Lara's punches were weak or throwaway jabs, if they land they should count for something.
My complaint about Lara is that, in arguably the most important fight of his life, he didn't up his game at all. He fought this fight like it was any other, he has this formula that he sticks to no matter who he's fighting.
After the first couple of rounds I was sure Lara would win easily, all he had to do was increase his punch output a little. Slipping away, resetting and throwing a combo, then sliding away again to reset is great and shows a lot of skill but he should have thrown more punches.
It's too bad, I think more work each round would have gotten the win.
Of course, nothing would have changed that 117-111 card, except a KO or some KDs.

[ruthless rocco]

Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".

Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.

I don't agree that some of Lara's punches were weak or throwaway jabs, if they land they should count for something.
My complaint about Lara is that, in arguably the most important fight of his life, he didn't up his game at all. He fought this fight like it was any other, he has this formula that he sticks to no matter who he's fighting.
After the first couple of rounds I was sure Lara would win easily, all he had to do was increase his punch output a little. Slipping away, resetting and throwing a combo, then sliding away again to reset is great and shows a lot of skill but he should have thrown more punches.
It's too bad, I think more work each round would have gotten the win.
Of course, nothing would have changed that 117-111 card, except a KO or some KDs.

But what scores higher? 10 keep away jabs or 10 heavy body shots...?

[beenKOed]

Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".

Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.

I don't agree that some of Lara's punches were weak or throwaway jabs, if they land they should count for something.
My complaint about Lara is that, in arguably the most important fight of his life, he didn't up his game at all. He fought this fight like it was any other, he has this formula that he sticks to no matter who he's fighting.
After the first couple of rounds I was sure Lara would win easily, all he had to do was increase his punch output a little. Slipping away, resetting and throwing a combo, then sliding away again to reset is great and shows a lot of skill but he should have thrown more punches.
It's too bad, I think more work each round would have gotten the win.
Of course, nothing would have changed that 117-111 card, except a KO or some KDs.

But what scores higher? 10 keep away jabs or 10 heavy body shots...?

Look, jabs are a huge scoring tool, even when they don't land they are a distraction. Jabs are usually the first punch in a combination.
What I'm saying is, that jabs are not worthless, Lara has a good jab and you could see Canelo getting real tired of it.
I think Canelo won, but it was real close!

[Silkeyjoe]

he is crying robbery and wants an investigation for the fight. i had canelo winning 115-113. it could have gone either way and was in no way a robbery. i agree that the 117-111 scorecard was a bit wide, but not insanely wide. more boxers need to just say that they thought they won the fight and move on. lara has gotten gifts before. i didnt mind him before this fight but now im not at all a fan.

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[Maravilla2012]

Canelo's aggression should only be award points if it was effective and for most of the fight he was missing wildly. Landed 23% Total Punches 5% Jabs and 38% Power Punches to Laras 28% Total punches 22% Jabs and 37% Power Punches. Lara was more economical with his punches then Canelo was. Canelo landed more punches on Floyd then he did against Lara..

[ruthless rocco]

Canelo's aggression should only be award points if it was effective and for most of the fight he was missing wildly. Landed 23% Total Punches 5% Jabs and 38% Power Punches to Laras 28% Total punches 22% Jabs and 37% Power Punches. Lara was more economical with his punches then Canelo was. Canelo landed more punches on Floyd then he did against Lara..

88 power punches to 52.

It's hard to hit a moving target but Canelo managed to land 73 body shots. It's difficult to land any hard shots while running away. I believe Canelo's punches were harder and more effective than Lara's. Evidence to support this can be found by the fact that Canelo never backed away from Lara and that Lara never moved forward suggesting Canelo was giving him a reason to stay away. He continued to chase him all night. Lara's punching never deterred Canelo, not even for a second.

I'll say it again, Chris Algeiri was effective with his punching and moving against Provodnikov. He out landed Provodnikov by 80 punches. Lara only landed 10 more punches than Canelo and ran away the whole fight. Note the difference.

[chris6878]

lara threw like one 3 punch combo. all one two or just a jab and move. he was in a pro canelo crowd. he shouldve sat down and threw more. i think i saw 2 good 1-2 combos and thats it. he definitely had no killer instinct. he kept it close instead of dominating the smaller slower fighter. its his fault he lost

[Spicoli]

I get the distinct impression that Lara doesn't really care if people like him. He talks it and he fights like it. After the controversy and split he should be fully expected to dispute the verdict and call for action on it. He has all the chance of a snowball in a grease fire but he has to push the issue. On a side its been a long time since I've seen punch stats and percentage's trumped to bolster the winner-loser of a match than with this one.

[powerpuncher]

I get the distinct impression that Lara doesn't really care if people like him. He talks it and he fights like it. After the controversy and split he should be fully expected to dispute the verdict and call for action on it. He has all the chance of a snowball in a grease fire but he has to push the issue. On a side its been a long time since I've seen punch stats and percentage's trumped to bolster the winner-loser of a match than with this one.

there are way too many bad decisions in boxing today to push the issue with this one. i understand his loss to paul williams but not this one. you cant allow every single person who thought they were robbed protest the decision and actually make something of it. otherwise, protests would get out of control with 75% of fights being protested.