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    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

    I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".
    Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.
    Last edited by ruthless rocco; 07-14-2014 at 03:31 PM.

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    Besides steroid or other drugs being used I have never seen an investigation overturn any decision for bad scoring. So Lara needs to suck it up and move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

    I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".
    Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.
    I don't agree that some of Lara's punches were weak or throwaway jabs, if they land they should count for something.
    My complaint about Lara is that, in arguably the most important fight of his life, he didn't up his game at all. He fought this fight like it was any other, he has this formula that he sticks to no matter who he's fighting.
    After the first couple of rounds I was sure Lara would win easily, all he had to do was increase his punch output a little. Slipping away, resetting and throwing a combo, then sliding away again to reset is great and shows a lot of skill but he should have thrown more punches.
    It's too bad, I think more work each round would have gotten the win.
    Of course, nothing would have changed that 117-111 card, except a KO or some KDs.

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    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

    I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".
    Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.
    I don't agree that some of Lara's punches were weak or throwaway jabs, if they land they should count for something.
    My complaint about Lara is that, in arguably the most important fight of his life, he didn't up his game at all. He fought this fight like it was any other, he has this formula that he sticks to no matter who he's fighting.
    After the first couple of rounds I was sure Lara would win easily, all he had to do was increase his punch output a little. Slipping away, resetting and throwing a combo, then sliding away again to reset is great and shows a lot of skill but he should have thrown more punches.
    It's too bad, I think more work each round would have gotten the win.
    Of course, nothing would have changed that 117-111 card, except a KO or some KDs.
    But what scores higher? 10 keep away jabs or 10 heavy body shots...?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by beenKOed View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ruthless rocco View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Ron Swanson View Post
    Well, in a sport that is said to be about hitting and not getting hit he did out land Canelo in 9 of the 12 rounds.

    I agree it was a close fight that could have gone either way but I can also see the fighters perspective saying "hmm, if I had out landed him in every round I might have gotten a draw that doesn't feel right".
    Lara only out landed Alvarez by 10 punches. Alvarez landed 88 power punches whereas Lara landed 52... Over half of Lara's connects were weak, runaway jabs. So this idea that Lara out punched Canelo and therefore won the fight is utter crap.
    I don't agree that some of Lara's punches were weak or throwaway jabs, if they land they should count for something.
    My complaint about Lara is that, in arguably the most important fight of his life, he didn't up his game at all. He fought this fight like it was any other, he has this formula that he sticks to no matter who he's fighting.
    After the first couple of rounds I was sure Lara would win easily, all he had to do was increase his punch output a little. Slipping away, resetting and throwing a combo, then sliding away again to reset is great and shows a lot of skill but he should have thrown more punches.
    It's too bad, I think more work each round would have gotten the win.
    Of course, nothing would have changed that 117-111 card, except a KO or some KDs.
    But what scores higher? 10 keep away jabs or 10 heavy body shots...?
    Look, jabs are a huge scoring tool, even when they don't land they are a distraction. Jabs are usually the first punch in a combination.
    What I'm saying is, that jabs are not worthless, Lara has a good jab and you could see Canelo getting real tired of it.
    I think Canelo won, but it was real close!

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    It was a close fight. I honestly think 115-113 to either fighter shouldn't cause people to cry "foul." However, the 117-111 score was disgraceful and deserves big time scrutiny...it's those kind of scores that give boxing a black eye. I personally think the fight was a draw. Lara moved well, made Alvarez miss a lot, and landed cleanly when her threw...but he took his foot off the pedal and it cost him. Canelo looked "busier" and went to the body. Lara should have known that there was no chance in hell he was going to win on cards against Canelo. Neither fighter really blew me away...and neither fighter did enough to win convincingly.

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    I had the fight 116-112 for Canelo. Lara was retreating the WHOLE fight, not once did he come forward. I was very dissapointed in Lara because this probably the worst I have seen him fight and it just happened to be on the biggest stage of his career. He fought as though this was the amateurs or the Olympics it was a terrible effort. As far as everyone saying oh he out landed Canelo it was by 10 punches 107 to 97(which basically means 9 punches a rd for lara and 8 punches a rd for Canelo) and Canelo landed the harder shots with an 88 to 52 advantage in power shots. Anyone who understands boxing knows that there is a BIG difference in throwing a punch stepping back as opposed to throwing a punch stepping forward. Lara was retreating the whole fight and on the defensive, Canelo was coming forward the whole fight and was on the attack, and in a fight where there is not much action to score most judges will score the rd or fight for the Aggressor which was Canelo.

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