Cotto seeking 4th title

[p4pking]

That's because you intend them that way VD. What you are doing is being a pathetic troll and hoping to make others as miserable as you are, why don't you just stop posting here? Find a hobby or something, join a support group.. Life's to short to as much as humour your crap. These are straight facts dog, am I lying?

[ElTerribleMorales]

In the new interview, posted on the scene.
Cotto stated he would be willing to go for a 4th division world title,
Being the first Puerto Rican fighter to do so.
The article states he might consider a catchweight to do so.

I'm not sure about Cotto at 160 but it would be nice if he committed to it though.
I would be very disappointed if he chose to do it at a catchweight. Also, I hope he would fight at that weight and fight Martinez if both were to win , in a unification bout.
Hopefully he doesn't do like our friend Pacquiao and fight for a vacant title, a non ranked opponent, at a catch weight, and never defend.
If he is serious, I would hope it would be for a few fights, as it would open up all sorts of intriguing match ups were he to carry his weight well.
I'm not so sure, him being is a small JMW.

Your kidding me right? 3 of Cotto's 4 titles were vacant when he won them. He didn't beat a champion to win them. The only champion he's ever to beaten to win a title was the crippled Jew who couldn't punch or fight for shit.

Cotto's 2 groupies I'm sure will say I'm talking shit about him. But those are straight facts

Why do you have so much hate for Cotto? He has achieved a lot in the sport and comes across as a good guy. I will be gutted the day Cotto leaves the sport because he brings exciting fights and always gives it his best, I dont understand the hate to be honest.

Short answer: Because he hates all Puerto Rican boxers.

Where's the hate? Unless you trying to tell me I'm lying in my post. That's what you trying to tell me?

cause it's not only Cotto, you do the same shit with Juanma, Vazquez Jr, Rocky Martinez, Calderon, Quintana, ffs you do the same thing with any Puerto Rican fighter

Am I fucking lying?

No surprise that you coward out of answering the question. If it ain't a Cotto suck off you don't want no part of it.

What am I doing? I'm just stating straight facts. And that's the problem you and the other fag have. You take facts as insults.

the WBO Jr. Welterweight title was vacated by Zab Judah when he moved up to welterweight, resulting in the #1 guy and #2 guy meeting in a fight between two undefeated fighters for the belt Cotto coming out the winner

the WBA welterweight title was vacated by Ricky Hatton when he opted to drop it choosing to rather fight at 140 so again the #1 fighter and #2 fighter met up again in a fight between two undefeated fighters, Cotto again winning by stoppage

on the other hand you constantly praise Canelo and JCC Jr. when both of them got their titles from the same guy without having to face him both got shots at titles stripped from Sergio Martinez (technically was GIVEN to Manny Pacquiao) against guys that well had no chance in hell of even winning yet according to you THEY'VE FOUGHT GREAT OPPOSITION hahahaha get the fuck out of here with that bullshit dude, you're so transparent, need to stop snacking on your foot buddy

[hardcore_crash]

Why wouldn't Cotto fight Saul Sept 15th? Hugh payday and a great fight. Is it legacy Cotto chasing? Chasing a 4th title or chasing a 4th divisional title? Strum will beat Cotto. JJr and Martinez will end his career. By the way, who will Cotto fight in December? Mayweather talks and Pacman suggestion is not a done deal.

Ask Oscar? They are not going to risk Alvarez against Cotto at this time. They will wait as I have said before for a Cotto that is a shell of his former self and then exploit the Mex/PR rivalry. Alvarez is Oscars marketing, money making gravy train and the present day risk and reward culture would not allow the risk

Cotto denied any talks of the 9/15 fight because he had family plans in July...
And GBP has actually stated an ideal fight for Canelo would be Kirkland in September, Cotto in December, and Mayweather sometime next year.

[Fenster]

What VD said was a fact. Fact.

Why has it upset people so much?

[Violent Demise]

In the new interview, posted on the scene.
Cotto stated he would be willing to go for a 4th division world title,
Being the first Puerto Rican fighter to do so.
The article states he might consider a catchweight to do so.

I'm not sure about Cotto at 160 but it would be nice if he committed to it though.
I would be very disappointed if he chose to do it at a catchweight. Also, I hope he would fight at that weight and fight Martinez if both were to win , in a unification bout.
Hopefully he doesn't do like our friend Pacquiao and fight for a vacant title, a non ranked opponent, at a catch weight, and never defend.
If he is serious, I would hope it would be for a few fights, as it would open up all sorts of intriguing match ups were he to carry his weight well.
I'm not so sure, him being is a small JMW.

Your kidding me right? 3 of Cotto's 4 titles were vacant when he won them. He didn't beat a champion to win them. The only champion he's ever to beaten to win a title was the crippled Jew who couldn't punch or fight for shit.

Cotto's 2 groupies I'm sure will say I'm talking shit about him. But those are straight facts

Why do you have so much hate for Cotto? He has achieved a lot in the sport and comes across as a good guy. I will be gutted the day Cotto leaves the sport because he brings exciting fights and always gives it his best, I dont understand the hate to be honest.

Short answer: Because he hates all Puerto Rican boxers.

Where's the hate? Unless you trying to tell me I'm lying in my post. That's what you trying to tell me?

cause it's not only Cotto, you do the same shit with Juanma, Vazquez Jr, Rocky Martinez, Calderon, Quintana, ffs you do the same thing with any Puerto Rican fighter

Am I fucking lying?

No surprise that you coward out of answering the question. If it ain't a Cotto suck off you don't want no part of it.

What am I doing? I'm just stating straight facts. And that's the problem you and the other fag have. You take facts as insults.

the WBO Jr. Welterweight title was vacated by Zab Judah when he moved up to welterweight, resulting in the #1 guy and #2 guy meeting in a fight between two undefeated fighters for the belt Cotto coming out the winner

the WBA welterweight title was vacated by Ricky Hatton when he opted to drop it choosing to rather fight at 140 so again the #1 fighter and #2 fighter met up again in a fight between two undefeated fighters, Cotto again winning by stoppage

on the other hand you constantly praise Canelo and JCC Jr. when both of them got their titles from the same guy without having to face him both got shots at titles stripped from Sergio Martinez (technically was GIVEN to Manny Pacquiao) against guys that well had no chance in hell of even winning yet according to you THEY'VE FOUGHT GREAT OPPOSITION hahahaha get the fuck out of here with that bullshit dude, you're so transparent, need to stop snacking on your foot buddy

Yeah I wouldn't mention him fighting the Monster that is Michael Jennings for his 3rd title either.

What VD said was a fact. Fact.

Why has it upset people so much?

Cuz there was no Cotto blow job attached to it. Therefore it's considered an insult

[ElTerribleMorales]

In the new interview, posted on the scene.
Cotto stated he would be willing to go for a 4th division world title,
Being the first Puerto Rican fighter to do so.
The article states he might consider a catchweight to do so.

I'm not sure about Cotto at 160 but it would be nice if he committed to it though.
I would be very disappointed if he chose to do it at a catchweight. Also, I hope he would fight at that weight and fight Martinez if both were to win , in a unification bout.
Hopefully he doesn't do like our friend Pacquiao and fight for a vacant title, a non ranked opponent, at a catch weight, and never defend.
If he is serious, I would hope it would be for a few fights, as it would open up all sorts of intriguing match ups were he to carry his weight well.
I'm not so sure, him being is a small JMW.

Your kidding me right? 3 of Cotto's 4 titles were vacant when he won them. He didn't beat a champion to win them. The only champion he's ever to beaten to win a title was the crippled Jew who couldn't punch or fight for shit.

Cotto's 2 groupies I'm sure will say I'm talking shit about him. But those are straight facts

Why do you have so much hate for Cotto? He has achieved a lot in the sport and comes across as a good guy. I will be gutted the day Cotto leaves the sport because he brings exciting fights and always gives it his best, I dont understand the hate to be honest.

Short answer: Because he hates all Puerto Rican boxers.

Where's the hate? Unless you trying to tell me I'm lying in my post. That's what you trying to tell me?

cause it's not only Cotto, you do the same shit with Juanma, Vazquez Jr, Rocky Martinez, Calderon, Quintana, ffs you do the same thing with any Puerto Rican fighter

Am I fucking lying?

No surprise that you coward out of answering the question. If it ain't a Cotto suck off you don't want no part of it.

What am I doing? I'm just stating straight facts. And that's the problem you and the other fag have. You take facts as insults.

the WBO Jr. Welterweight title was vacated by Zab Judah when he moved up to welterweight, resulting in the #1 guy and #2 guy meeting in a fight between two undefeated fighters for the belt Cotto coming out the winner

the WBA welterweight title was vacated by Ricky Hatton when he opted to drop it choosing to rather fight at 140 so again the #1 fighter and #2 fighter met up again in a fight between two undefeated fighters, Cotto again winning by stoppage

on the other hand you constantly praise Canelo and JCC Jr. when both of them got their titles from the same guy without having to face him both got shots at titles stripped from Sergio Martinez (technically was GIVEN to Manny Pacquiao) against guys that well had no chance in hell of even winning yet according to you THEY'VE FOUGHT GREAT OPPOSITION hahahaha get the fuck out of here with that bullshit dude, you're so transparent, need to stop snacking on your foot buddy

Yeah I wouldn't mention him fighting the Monster that is Michael Jennings for his 3rd title either.

What VD said was a fact. Fact.

Why has it upset people so much?

Cuz there was no Cotto blow job attached to it. Therefore it's considered an insult

hahaha you're too busy sucking off Alvarez while also taking it in the ass by JCC Jr

[Violent Demise]

In the new interview, posted on the scene.
Cotto stated he would be willing to go for a 4th division world title,
Being the first Puerto Rican fighter to do so.
The article states he might consider a catchweight to do so.

I'm not sure about Cotto at 160 but it would be nice if he committed to it though.
I would be very disappointed if he chose to do it at a catchweight. Also, I hope he would fight at that weight and fight Martinez if both were to win , in a unification bout.
Hopefully he doesn't do like our friend Pacquiao and fight for a vacant title, a non ranked opponent, at a catch weight, and never defend.
If he is serious, I would hope it would be for a few fights, as it would open up all sorts of intriguing match ups were he to carry his weight well.
I'm not so sure, him being is a small JMW.

Your kidding me right? 3 of Cotto's 4 titles were vacant when he won them. He didn't beat a champion to win them. The only champion he's ever to beaten to win a title was the crippled Jew who couldn't punch or fight for shit.

Cotto's 2 groupies I'm sure will say I'm talking shit about him. But those are straight facts

Why do you have so much hate for Cotto? He has achieved a lot in the sport and comes across as a good guy. I will be gutted the day Cotto leaves the sport because he brings exciting fights and always gives it his best, I dont understand the hate to be honest.

Short answer: Because he hates all Puerto Rican boxers.

Where's the hate? Unless you trying to tell me I'm lying in my post. That's what you trying to tell me?

cause it's not only Cotto, you do the same shit with Juanma, Vazquez Jr, Rocky Martinez, Calderon, Quintana, ffs you do the same thing with any Puerto Rican fighter

Am I fucking lying?

No surprise that you coward out of answering the question. If it ain't a Cotto suck off you don't want no part of it.

What am I doing? I'm just stating straight facts. And that's the problem you and the other fag have. You take facts as insults.

the WBO Jr. Welterweight title was vacated by Zab Judah when he moved up to welterweight, resulting in the #1 guy and #2 guy meeting in a fight between two undefeated fighters for the belt Cotto coming out the winner

the WBA welterweight title was vacated by Ricky Hatton when he opted to drop it choosing to rather fight at 140 so again the #1 fighter and #2 fighter met up again in a fight between two undefeated fighters, Cotto again winning by stoppage

on the other hand you constantly praise Canelo and JCC Jr. when both of them got their titles from the same guy without having to face him both got shots at titles stripped from Sergio Martinez (technically was GIVEN to Manny Pacquiao) against guys that well had no chance in hell of even winning yet according to you THEY'VE FOUGHT GREAT OPPOSITION hahahaha get the fuck out of here with that bullshit dude, you're so transparent, need to stop snacking on your foot buddy

Yeah I wouldn't mention him fighting the Monster that is Michael Jennings for his 3rd title either.

What VD said was a fact. Fact.

Why has it upset people so much?

Cuz there was no Cotto blow job attached to it. Therefore it's considered an insult

hahaha you're too busy sucking off Alvarez while also taking it in the ass by JCC Jr

See what I mean? You won't agree or acknowledge any fact what so ever that doesn't praise Cotto. Your lust runs that deep

And taking it in the ass. Isn't that what Cotto's fat friend does to him? So in love with the man you are that you actually saw nothing wrong with his homosexual behavior. Must be your type of behavior too

[ElTerribleMorales]

you're the one who conveniently ignores the comparisons made to the fighters you defend, cause what you criticize about Cotto goes even worse on them, you only have roses for Canelo and Chavez Jr when they never EARNED their world titles, instead they were given free belts from the WBC, Chavez Jr got his after Martinez was wrongfully stripped of it, and Canelo got his after Pacquiao vacated it (and Pacquiao was only given the strap after Martinez was also stripped of the same belt), but since the two of them give you a stiffy well they can't get criticized, difference between them and Cotto, after HE won a world title he defended it against WORTHY opposition, not against guys who were barely fringe contenders, but yea you'll come up with another little queer remark cause that's what you do, keep digging that hole deeper cause all that spews out of your mouth is shit not only on this thread but in every thread you post in, no wonder you and xanadu had a thing for each other

[Violent Demise]

you're the one who conveniently ignores the comparisons made to the fighters you defend, cause what you criticize about Cotto goes even worse on them, you only have roses for Canelo and Chavez Jr when they never EARNED their world titles, instead they were given free belts from the WBC, Chavez Jr got his after Martinez was wrongfully stripped of it, and Canelo got his after Pacquiao vacated it (and Pacquiao was only given the strap after Martinez was also stripped of the same belt), but since the two of them give you a stiffy well they can't get criticized, difference between them and Cotto, after HE won a world title he defended it against WORTHY opposition, not against guys who were barely fringe contenders, but yea you'll come up with another little queer remark cause that's what you do, keep digging that hole deeper cause all that spews out of your mouth is shit not only on this thread but in every thread you post in, no wonder you and xanadu had a thing for each other

You are such a fucking idiot. And it's hilarious how resort to straight out lies. Chavez is about to fight Martinez. You know what I say about that? It's about fucking time. I have never once called Chavez the middleweight champion. Cuz he ain't. As for Alvarez's title? Give me fucking break. I don't even fucking acknowledge his paper title. Cuz that's all it is. A paper title. Now if I'm fucking lying than prove it. Show me where I called either one a worthy champion. You won't find it cuz I don't even consider them champions. I don't question who Cotto gotten in the ring with. I just simply brought up the true fact on how he won his titles. And your ass started acting like the bitch you are by making shit up. Now tell me. How fuck is it that I'm bad mouthing Cotto if what I said is true?

[ElTerribleMorales]

you're the one who conveniently ignores the comparisons made to the fighters you defend, cause what you criticize about Cotto goes even worse on them, you only have roses for Canelo and Chavez Jr when they never EARNED their world titles, instead they were given free belts from the WBC, Chavez Jr got his after Martinez was wrongfully stripped of it, and Canelo got his after Pacquiao vacated it (and Pacquiao was only given the strap after Martinez was also stripped of the same belt), but since the two of them give you a stiffy well they can't get criticized, difference between them and Cotto, after HE won a world title he defended it against WORTHY opposition, not against guys who were barely fringe contenders, but yea you'll come up with another little queer remark cause that's what you do, keep digging that hole deeper cause all that spews out of your mouth is shit not only on this thread but in every thread you post in, no wonder you and xanadu had a thing for each other

You are such a fucking idiot. And it's hilarious how resort to straight out lies. Chavez is about to fight Martinez. You know what I say about that? It's about fucking time. I have never once called Chavez the middleweight champion. Cuz he ain't. As for Alvarez's title? Give me fucking break. I don't even fucking acknowledge his paper title. Cuz that's all it is. A paper title. Now if I'm fucking lying than prove it. Show me where I called either one a worthy champion. You won't find it cuz I don't even consider them champions. I don't question who Cotto gotten in the ring with. I just simply brought up the true fact on how he won his titles. And your ass started acting like the bitch you are by making shit up. Now tell me. How fuck is it that I'm bad mouthing Cotto if what I said is true?

where's the lie? Martinez was stripped of his title for little other reason other than to give Jr a free belt, and as you said before Vazquez Jr/Donaire, there isn't a signed contract yet so you can't say jack shit about WHO the fuck Jr is gonna fight next

and did I ever say you built up Alvarez' belt? no, but HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU CRITICIZE COTTO ABOUT IT YET BUILD ALVAREZ UP WHEN HE'S GONE AN EVEN EASIER ROUTE

cause you like to manipulate facts and try to make them truths in your favor, you try to downplay one's accomplishments yet build up another fighter as the most avoided or the "biggest threat" in the division, as I and many have already said, you're transparent as fuck, pretty fucking pathetic hahaha

[Rantcatrat]

If Cotto fought the winner of Junior/Martinez on 12/1, I would give him a TON of credit. Frankly, that's a monstrous fight at MSG. Cotto may be too small for the middleweight title, but like I said, win or lose, he would earn respect across the board.

[IamInuit]

If Cotto fought the winner of Junior/Martinez on 12/1, I would give him a TON of credit. Frankly, that's a monstrous fight at MSG. Cotto may be too small for the middleweight title, but like I said, win or lose, he would earn respect across the board.

Agreed on the size part but would like to see him shelf the catch weight part. The only fighter in the division that would even consider it would be Sergio.

Imo the Chavez/Martinez fight will not happen and for two reasons.

1. As of now it's same day weigh ins as per the new WBC rule for all title fights. Anyone who thinks that Jr. is going to make 160 the day of the fight and then have something left at fight time is nuts.

Having said that and knowing the history of the WBC quite well and the modus operandi of Mr. Suliman, it would not surprise me in the least that for "insert ridiculous excuse here" it would somehow not apply to this fight.

2. Simple one really. They don't want to fight him.

[Master]

That will be suicide for Cotto to take on Martinez and he would be too small for Junior.

[Violent Demise]

you're the one who conveniently ignores the comparisons made to the fighters you defend, cause what you criticize about Cotto goes even worse on them, you only have roses for Canelo and Chavez Jr when they never EARNED their world titles, instead they were given free belts from the WBC, Chavez Jr got his after Martinez was wrongfully stripped of it, and Canelo got his after Pacquiao vacated it (and Pacquiao was only given the strap after Martinez was also stripped of the same belt), but since the two of them give you a stiffy well they can't get criticized, difference between them and Cotto, after HE won a world title he defended it against WORTHY opposition, not against guys who were barely fringe contenders, but yea you'll come up with another little queer remark cause that's what you do, keep digging that hole deeper cause all that spews out of your mouth is shit not only on this thread but in every thread you post in, no wonder you and xanadu had a thing for each other

You are such a fucking idiot. And it's hilarious how resort to straight out lies. Chavez is about to fight Martinez. You know what I say about that? It's about fucking time. I have never once called Chavez the middleweight champion. Cuz he ain't. As for Alvarez's title? Give me fucking break. I don't even fucking acknowledge his paper title. Cuz that's all it is. A paper title. Now if I'm fucking lying than prove it. Show me where I called either one a worthy champion. You won't find it cuz I don't even consider them champions. I don't question who Cotto gotten in the ring with. I just simply brought up the true fact on how he won his titles. And your ass started acting like the bitch you are by making shit up. Now tell me. How fuck is it that I'm bad mouthing Cotto if what I said is true?

where's the lie? Martinez was stripped of his title for little other reason other than to give Jr a free belt, and as you said before Vazquez Jr/Donaire, there isn't a signed contract yet so you can't say jack shit about WHO the fuck Jr is gonna fight next

and did I ever say you built up Alvarez' belt? no, but HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU CRITICIZE COTTO ABOUT IT YET BUILD ALVAREZ UP WHEN HE'S GONE AN EVEN EASIER ROUTE

cause you like to manipulate facts and try to make them truths in your favor, you try to downplay one's accomplishments yet build up another fighter as the most avoided or the "biggest threat" in the division, as I and many have already said, you're transparent as fuck, pretty fucking pathetic hahaha

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

[TitoFan]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?