Cotto seeking 4th title

[Violent Demise]

you're the one who conveniently ignores the comparisons made to the fighters you defend, cause what you criticize about Cotto goes even worse on them, you only have roses for Canelo and Chavez Jr when they never EARNED their world titles, instead they were given free belts from the WBC, Chavez Jr got his after Martinez was wrongfully stripped of it, and Canelo got his after Pacquiao vacated it (and Pacquiao was only given the strap after Martinez was also stripped of the same belt), but since the two of them give you a stiffy well they can't get criticized, difference between them and Cotto, after HE won a world title he defended it against WORTHY opposition, not against guys who were barely fringe contenders, but yea you'll come up with another little queer remark cause that's what you do, keep digging that hole deeper cause all that spews out of your mouth is shit not only on this thread but in every thread you post in, no wonder you and xanadu had a thing for each other

You are such a fucking idiot. And it's hilarious how resort to straight out lies. Chavez is about to fight Martinez. You know what I say about that? It's about fucking time. I have never once called Chavez the middleweight champion. Cuz he ain't. As for Alvarez's title? Give me fucking break. I don't even fucking acknowledge his paper title. Cuz that's all it is. A paper title. Now if I'm fucking lying than prove it. Show me where I called either one a worthy champion. You won't find it cuz I don't even consider them champions. I don't question who Cotto gotten in the ring with. I just simply brought up the true fact on how he won his titles. And your ass started acting like the bitch you are by making shit up. Now tell me. How fuck is it that I'm bad mouthing Cotto if what I said is true?

where's the lie? Martinez was stripped of his title for little other reason other than to give Jr a free belt, and as you said before Vazquez Jr/Donaire, there isn't a signed contract yet so you can't say jack shit about WHO the fuck Jr is gonna fight next

and did I ever say you built up Alvarez' belt? no, but HOW THE FUCK CAN YOU CRITICIZE COTTO ABOUT IT YET BUILD ALVAREZ UP WHEN HE'S GONE AN EVEN EASIER ROUTE

cause you like to manipulate facts and try to make them truths in your favor, you try to downplay one's accomplishments yet build up another fighter as the most avoided or the "biggest threat" in the division, as I and many have already said, you're transparent as fuck, pretty fucking pathetic hahaha

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

[TitoFan]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?

[Violent Demise]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?

Stay on the current topic. We talking present. Not past. This the reason I don't seperate posts from you and the other clown. What would be the point? You both post the same recycled nonsense over and over. Always going off topic as a way to either avoid answering a question or to try and hide your limited knowledge. Which is pointless to even try and hide since everybody knows both your knowledge consists of only knowing about a handfull of Puerto Rican fighters

You ask "what is the point about Cotto having fought 3 times for vacant titles?" There is no point. Read the first post of the thread and you'll see why it was brought up. I just stated a simple fact. It should of ended there. But it didn't. Apparently some sensitive little girl took me stating those true facts as me bad mouthing Cotto (how is it an insult?). Proving my point that one must swallow Cotto when ever they mention him. If not than you guys consider it an insult.

I called him Money Miguel. Wow. Big fucking deal. The name fits. Yet you still gotta act like a bitch and take it as an insult. Unfuckingbelievable. The man said it himself (more than once) it's only about the money. Do I hold that against him? Fuck no. I'll do the same thing in his position. Pay me. So pay him. But still. You can't tell me (I'm sure you still will) that Cotto is being a warrior by trying to land a fight he has no chance of winning just cuz it pays more. Him taking another for sure L shows he values money more than wins.

[TitoFan]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?

Stay on the current topic. We talking present. Not past. This the reason I don't seperate posts from you and the other clown. What would be the point? You both post the same recycled nonsense over and over. Always going off topic as a way to either avoid answering a question or to try and hide your limited knowledge. Which is pointless to even try and hide since everybody knows both your knowledge consists of only knowing about a handfull of Puerto Rican fighters

You ask "what is the point about Cotto having fought 3 times for vacant titles?" There is no point. Read the first post of the thread and you'll see why it was brought up. I just stated a simple fact. It should of ended there. But it didn't. Apparently some sensitive little girl took me stating those true facts as me bad mouthing Cotto (how is it an insult?). Proving my point that one must swallow Cotto when ever they mention him. If not than you guys consider it an insult.

I called him Money Miguel. Wow. Big fucking deal. The name fits. Yet you still gotta act like a bitch and take it as an insult. Unfuckingbelievable. The man said it himself (more than once) it's only about the money. Do I hold that against him? Fuck no. I'll do the same thing in his position. Pay me. So pay him. But still. You can't tell me (I'm sure you still will) that Cotto is being a warrior by trying to land a fight he has no chance of winning just cuz it pays more. Him taking another for sure L shows he values money more than wins.

Who's avoiding questions now, moron? You picked on the "Money Miguel" line, but conveniently avoided the other insults you've hurled at him which I called you out on. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? What about the other stuff? You gonna deny that? It's useless arguing with you. You're a closed-minded orangutan who only writes (and no doubt grunts) in mono-syllable words and sentences.

I flat out challenged you about your bias against all Puerto Rican fighters. You again chose to avoid the point. I furthermore stated how I am not like that against Mexican fighters. Again you completely ignored the point. Why do I bring this up? So everyone can see what a one-dimensional, biased, piece of shit, ignorant poster you are. So it's very much relevant.

You choose your battles.... you call people names.... you dust off your thuggish-wannabe vocabulary.... and you answer every point with insults. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? Arguing with you sensibly is like pissing into the wind. Wasted effort. You're a waste of flesh and bones.... better used on a lower life form.

You said "show me where I bad-mouthed Cotto". I promptly proceeded to show you.... and you respond with insults.
You fucking idiot.

If you're not gonna answer the points thrown directly at you.... then do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

[Violent Demise]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?

Stay on the current topic. We talking present. Not past. This the reason I don't seperate posts from you and the other clown. What would be the point? You both post the same recycled nonsense over and over. Always going off topic as a way to either avoid answering a question or to try and hide your limited knowledge. Which is pointless to even try and hide since everybody knows both your knowledge consists of only knowing about a handfull of Puerto Rican fighters

You ask "what is the point about Cotto having fought 3 times for vacant titles?" There is no point. Read the first post of the thread and you'll see why it was brought up. I just stated a simple fact. It should of ended there. But it didn't. Apparently some sensitive little girl took me stating those true facts as me bad mouthing Cotto (how is it an insult?). Proving my point that one must swallow Cotto when ever they mention him. If not than you guys consider it an insult.

I called him Money Miguel. Wow. Big fucking deal. The name fits. Yet you still gotta act like a bitch and take it as an insult. Unfuckingbelievable. The man said it himself (more than once) it's only about the money. Do I hold that against him? Fuck no. I'll do the same thing in his position. Pay me. So pay him. But still. You can't tell me (I'm sure you still will) that Cotto is being a warrior by trying to land a fight he has no chance of winning just cuz it pays more. Him taking another for sure L shows he values money more than wins.

Who's avoiding questions now, moron? You picked on the "Money Miguel" line, but conveniently avoided the other insults you've hurled at him which I called you out on. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? What about the other stuff? You gonna deny that? It's useless arguing with you. You're a closed-minded orangutan who only writes (and no doubt grunts) in mono-syllable words and sentences.

I flat out challenged you about your bias against all Puerto Rican fighters. You again chose to avoid the point. I furthermore stated how I am not like that against Mexican fighters. Again you completely ignored the point. Why do I bring this up? So everyone can see what a one-dimensional, biased, piece of shit, ignorant poster you are. So it's very much relevant.

You choose your battles.... you call people names.... you dust off your thuggish-wannabe vocabulary.... and you answer every point with insults. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? Arguing with you sensibly is like pissing into the wind. Wasted effort. You're a waste of flesh and bones.... better used on a lower life form.

You said "show me where I bad-mouthed Cotto". I promptly proceeded to show you.... and you respond with insults.
You fucking idiot.

If you're not gonna answer the points thrown directly at you.... then do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

Damn you really are a fucking girl ain't you? I'm talking and debating the current thread. You bringing shit up from the past that ain't got nothing to do with the current thread. You know who does that shit? Females. Girls fucking do that. Always bringing up shit that has nothing to do with the current discussion cuz they have nothing else to say. Just like you doing. I'm still waiting on where I insulted Cotto in this thread. You have failed to show me what you have claimed I've done.

[TitoFan]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?

Stay on the current topic. We talking present. Not past. This the reason I don't seperate posts from you and the other clown. What would be the point? You both post the same recycled nonsense over and over. Always going off topic as a way to either avoid answering a question or to try and hide your limited knowledge. Which is pointless to even try and hide since everybody knows both your knowledge consists of only knowing about a handfull of Puerto Rican fighters

You ask "what is the point about Cotto having fought 3 times for vacant titles?" There is no point. Read the first post of the thread and you'll see why it was brought up. I just stated a simple fact. It should of ended there. But it didn't. Apparently some sensitive little girl took me stating those true facts as me bad mouthing Cotto (how is it an insult?). Proving my point that one must swallow Cotto when ever they mention him. If not than you guys consider it an insult.

I called him Money Miguel. Wow. Big fucking deal. The name fits. Yet you still gotta act like a bitch and take it as an insult. Unfuckingbelievable. The man said it himself (more than once) it's only about the money. Do I hold that against him? Fuck no. I'll do the same thing in his position. Pay me. So pay him. But still. You can't tell me (I'm sure you still will) that Cotto is being a warrior by trying to land a fight he has no chance of winning just cuz it pays more. Him taking another for sure L shows he values money more than wins.

Who's avoiding questions now, moron? You picked on the "Money Miguel" line, but conveniently avoided the other insults you've hurled at him which I called you out on. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? What about the other stuff? You gonna deny that? It's useless arguing with you. You're a closed-minded orangutan who only writes (and no doubt grunts) in mono-syllable words and sentences.

I flat out challenged you about your bias against all Puerto Rican fighters. You again chose to avoid the point. I furthermore stated how I am not like that against Mexican fighters. Again you completely ignored the point. Why do I bring this up? So everyone can see what a one-dimensional, biased, piece of shit, ignorant poster you are. So it's very much relevant.

You choose your battles.... you call people names.... you dust off your thuggish-wannabe vocabulary.... and you answer every point with insults. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? Arguing with you sensibly is like pissing into the wind. Wasted effort. You're a waste of flesh and bones.... better used on a lower life form.

You said "show me where I bad-mouthed Cotto". I promptly proceeded to show you.... and you respond with insults.
You fucking idiot.

If you're not gonna answer the points thrown directly at you.... then do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

Damn you really are a fucking girl ain't you? I'm talking and debating the current thread. You bringing shit up from the past that ain't got nothing to do with the current thread. You know who does that shit? Females. Girls fucking do that. Always bringing up shit that has nothing to do with the current discussion cuz they have nothing else to say. Just like you doing. I'm still waiting on where I insulted Cotto in this thread. You have failed to show me what you have claimed I've done.

What does it matter when and where you've insulted Cotto? Are you mentally-challenged or something? Scratch that. Of course you are. I'm putting a point right in your face, and you're getting all picky and technical on me. That's what losers do when they know they have no argument. You're starting to sound like Fuckster.

On the other hand, you brought up the fact that Cotto fought for 3 vacant titles. And brought it up derisively, downgrading Cotto as usual. I told you "so what"? "Does that take away from Cotto's quality of opponents and title defenses throughout his career"? I didn't hear a single fucking peep out of you. Not a one.

Man up to when you're wrong.

[Fenster]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?

Stay on the current topic. We talking present. Not past. This the reason I don't seperate posts from you and the other clown. What would be the point? You both post the same recycled nonsense over and over. Always going off topic as a way to either avoid answering a question or to try and hide your limited knowledge. Which is pointless to even try and hide since everybody knows both your knowledge consists of only knowing about a handfull of Puerto Rican fighters

You ask "what is the point about Cotto having fought 3 times for vacant titles?" There is no point. Read the first post of the thread and you'll see why it was brought up. I just stated a simple fact. It should of ended there. But it didn't. Apparently some sensitive little girl took me stating those true facts as me bad mouthing Cotto (how is it an insult?). Proving my point that one must swallow Cotto when ever they mention him. If not than you guys consider it an insult.

I called him Money Miguel. Wow. Big fucking deal. The name fits. Yet you still gotta act like a bitch and take it as an insult. Unfuckingbelievable. The man said it himself (more than once) it's only about the money. Do I hold that against him? Fuck no. I'll do the same thing in his position. Pay me. So pay him. But still. You can't tell me (I'm sure you still will) that Cotto is being a warrior by trying to land a fight he has no chance of winning just cuz it pays more. Him taking another for sure L shows he values money more than wins.

Who's avoiding questions now, moron? You picked on the "Money Miguel" line, but conveniently avoided the other insults you've hurled at him which I called you out on. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? What about the other stuff? You gonna deny that? It's useless arguing with you. You're a closed-minded orangutan who only writes (and no doubt grunts) in mono-syllable words and sentences.

I flat out challenged you about your bias against all Puerto Rican fighters. You again chose to avoid the point. I furthermore stated how I am not like that against Mexican fighters. Again you completely ignored the point. Why do I bring this up? So everyone can see what a one-dimensional, biased, piece of shit, ignorant poster you are. So it's very much relevant.

You choose your battles.... you call people names.... you dust off your thuggish-wannabe vocabulary.... and you answer every point with insults. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? Arguing with you sensibly is like pissing into the wind. Wasted effort. You're a waste of flesh and bones.... better used on a lower life form.

You said "show me where I bad-mouthed Cotto". I promptly proceeded to show you.... and you respond with insults.
You fucking idiot.

If you're not gonna answer the points thrown directly at you.... then do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

Damn you really are a fucking girl ain't you? I'm talking and debating the current thread. You bringing shit up from the past that ain't got nothing to do with the current thread. You know who does that shit? Females. Girls fucking do that. Always bringing up shit that has nothing to do with the current discussion cuz they have nothing else to say. Just like you doing. I'm still waiting on where I insulted Cotto in this thread. You have failed to show me what you have claimed I've done.

What does it matter when and where you've insulted Cotto? Are you mentally-challenged or something? Scratch that. Of course you are. I'm putting a point right in your face, and you're getting all picky and technical on me. That's what losers do when they know they have no argument. You're starting to sound like Fuckster.

On the other hand, you brought up the fact that Cotto fought for 3 vacant titles. And brought it up derisively, downgrading Cotto as usual. I told you "so what"? "Does that take away from Cotto's quality of opponents and title defenses throughout his career"? I didn't hear a single fucking peep out of you. Not a one.

Man up to when you're wrong.

It's not hard to make you look like a moron. Trust me. Fact.

[Violent Demise]

Let me get this straight. Me bringing up the TRUE fact that Cotto first 3 titles were vacant when he won them is criticism? In your lust filled eyes it is. Proving my point that one must suck Cotto's dick if not in your opinion there bad mouthing him. Understand this chump. Me mentioning Cotto's 3 vacant title wins isn't criticism. It's a TRUE fact. You take it as me bad mouthing him cuz you're a fucking idiot. You claim a bunch of nonsense but can't back any of it up. Show me where I knocked Cotto's opposition. I mentioned how he won the titles. But did I say he beat a bunch of scrubs to win them vacant titles? No. Qintana quit like a fucking coward but it didn't mean he wasn't worthy going in. Cuz he was. Kelson Pinto was highly touted going in. And he owned 2 wins in the am's over Cotto. So yes he was also wothy. You might have Michael Jennings going into the HOF just cuz he fought Cotto. I think he was garbage and not worth mentioning. So I won't. Either way back up your bullshit lies and show me where I bad mouthed Cotto.

Really? C'mon. Don't make me drag out the few hundred posts where you've bad-mouthed Cotto over the years. I know it... you know it... the whole forum knows it. Hell.... even innocent bystanders that have nothing to do with the forum probably know it.

You've called him "Money Cotto".... you've questioned his heart.... called him a quitter.... refused to acknowledge his great win over Margarito, calling it a "sad day for boxing"..... and the list goes on and on. You've made a career of bad-mouthing Cotto, like you've also publicly dumped on Puerto Rican fighters in general. Again... don't make me go back and dig up old posts.

You can call me "fanboy", "fag", and every other name you've already used.... but it doesn't change a thing. Thing is... everyone else in the forum knows what I'm saying is 100% true.

I don't think anyone's arguing the way Cotto won his belts. Yes, he fought 3 times for vacant titles. But so what? I would argue that if anyone in boxing today has a sterling list of boxing opposition throughout the years, it's Cotto. I'm sure I'd get close to 100% agreement here on this board that Cotto has an admirable list of opponents throughout his career. So what is the point about his having fought 3 times for vacant titles? Anyone with access to BoxRec can obviously confirm that. Does it take away from Cotto's remarkable, HOF career? IMO.... not one damn bit.

I'm gonna say it again. Yes I'm partial toward Puerto Rican boxers. Just like you're partial toward Mexican boxers. Totally to be expected. But the difference between you and me is that I am capable of praising a Mexican boxer or giving him his due recognition. Also, I don't dislike all Mexican boxers. Among Mexican fighters I've always spoken well of: MAB, JMM, "Finito" Lopez. I never liked Fernando Vargas, DLH, Erik Morales, or JCC (Sr or Jr). I'll go further. I'm not a fan of every Puerto Rican boxer either. I'm the biggest critic of John Ruiz.... and I've never been a "Macho" Camacho fan, nor a Daniel Santos fan. Oh...... and another difference between me and you: I man up to when I'm wrong. And don't tell me you're never wrong, because that further undermines your credibility.

I get in here for fun. But I'm not above defending myself and arguing with you or anyone else. And if it gets to trading insults and getting personal.... then I guess I'm not above that either. But I try to retain my objectivity whenever possible.

In the end... it's just an Internet boxing forum. How much harm can we really do to each other?

Stay on the current topic. We talking present. Not past. This the reason I don't seperate posts from you and the other clown. What would be the point? You both post the same recycled nonsense over and over. Always going off topic as a way to either avoid answering a question or to try and hide your limited knowledge. Which is pointless to even try and hide since everybody knows both your knowledge consists of only knowing about a handfull of Puerto Rican fighters

You ask "what is the point about Cotto having fought 3 times for vacant titles?" There is no point. Read the first post of the thread and you'll see why it was brought up. I just stated a simple fact. It should of ended there. But it didn't. Apparently some sensitive little girl took me stating those true facts as me bad mouthing Cotto (how is it an insult?). Proving my point that one must swallow Cotto when ever they mention him. If not than you guys consider it an insult.

I called him Money Miguel. Wow. Big fucking deal. The name fits. Yet you still gotta act like a bitch and take it as an insult. Unfuckingbelievable. The man said it himself (more than once) it's only about the money. Do I hold that against him? Fuck no. I'll do the same thing in his position. Pay me. So pay him. But still. You can't tell me (I'm sure you still will) that Cotto is being a warrior by trying to land a fight he has no chance of winning just cuz it pays more. Him taking another for sure L shows he values money more than wins.

Who's avoiding questions now, moron? You picked on the "Money Miguel" line, but conveniently avoided the other insults you've hurled at him which I called you out on. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? What about the other stuff? You gonna deny that? It's useless arguing with you. You're a closed-minded orangutan who only writes (and no doubt grunts) in mono-syllable words and sentences.

I flat out challenged you about your bias against all Puerto Rican fighters. You again chose to avoid the point. I furthermore stated how I am not like that against Mexican fighters. Again you completely ignored the point. Why do I bring this up? So everyone can see what a one-dimensional, biased, piece of shit, ignorant poster you are. So it's very much relevant.

You choose your battles.... you call people names.... you dust off your thuggish-wannabe vocabulary.... and you answer every point with insults. Who's avoiding questions now, moron? Arguing with you sensibly is like pissing into the wind. Wasted effort. You're a waste of flesh and bones.... better used on a lower life form.

You said "show me where I bad-mouthed Cotto". I promptly proceeded to show you.... and you respond with insults.
You fucking idiot.

If you're not gonna answer the points thrown directly at you.... then do us all a favor and shut the fuck up.

Damn you really are a fucking girl ain't you? I'm talking and debating the current thread. You bringing shit up from the past that ain't got nothing to do with the current thread. You know who does that shit? Females. Girls fucking do that. Always bringing up shit that has nothing to do with the current discussion cuz they have nothing else to say. Just like you doing. I'm still waiting on where I insulted Cotto in this thread. You have failed to show me what you have claimed I've done.

What does it matter when and where you've insulted Cotto? Are you mentally-challenged or something? Scratch that. Of course you are. I'm putting a point right in your face, and you're getting all picky and technical on me. That's what losers do when they know they have no argument. You're starting to sound like Fuckster.

On the other hand, you brought up the fact that Cotto fought for 3 vacant titles. And brought it up derisively, downgrading Cotto as usual. I told you "so what"? "Does that take away from Cotto's quality of opponents and title defenses throughout his career"? I didn't hear a single fucking peep out of you. Not a one.

Man up to when you're wrong.

Why would you? Look at post 29. I clearly praise 2 of the 3 fighters Cotto beat for his vacant titles. So really why the fuck are you crying like a fucking fag for? You ask does winning the vacant titles take away from Cotto's quality of opponents and title defenses throughout his career? And I ask when the fuck did I ever say it did? The fact that I consider 2 of the 3 fighters he beat worthy should be enough of an answer

I don't need to man up cuz I ain't wrong. You on the other hand should take your own advice and man up and admit (what everybody already fucking knows) that your so in love with Cotto that you take any post that is not an online blow job for him to be an insult directed at him.