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    Default Re: SugarJ's World Boxing Rankings

    Nice summary each week. Thankfully Floyd has gone and these dimwits can fight one another with no excuses.

    Probably asked this but you do not do a p4p list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Nice summary each week. Thankfully Floyd has gone and these dimwits can fight one another with no excuses.

    Probably asked this but you do not do a p4p list?
    Thanks mate. I am also looking forward to seeing how these divisions play out now that Floyd has gone.

    No I don't do a P4P list.

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    Default Re: SugarJ's World Boxing Rankings

    Luis Concepcion kept his career alvie by battering his way into the Super-Flyweight rankings.



    Ratings updated:

    https://boxranks.wordpress.com/2015/...eptember-2015/



    MIDDLEWEIGHT:

    Number eight Jorge Sebastian Heiland (26-4-2, 14 KOs) scored a sixth round knockout over unrated Claudio Ariel Abalos (29-14-3, 8 KOs). No changes.

    SUPER-WELTERWEIGHT:

    Number nine Carlos Molina (23-6-2, 7 KOs) knocked out unrated late sub Manuel Garcia (13-11-2, 5 KOs) in the third round. No changes.

    LIGHTWEIGHT:

    Previous number one Richar Abril (19-3-1, 8 KOs) exits due to inactivity. Everyone rated two through ten last week shuffles up a place each. Terry Flanagan (28-0, 11 KOs) enters at ten.

    BANTAMWEIGHT:

    Previous number six Malcolm Tunacao (35-3-3, 20 KOs) exits as he has not fought in over a year and is currently hospitalized after being stabbed multiple times in an attack by his long-time girlfriend. Everyone rated seven through ten previously advances a place each. Number seven Suriyan Sor Rungvisai (45-6-1, 23 KOs) scored a second round stoppage over unrated Frans Damur Palue (11-10-2, 6 KOs). Rodrigo Guerrero (23-5-1, 16 KOs) enters at number ten.

    SUPER-FLYWEIGHT:

    Previous number nine Felipe Orucuta (31-3, 25 KOs) exits as he has been inactive at this weight for over a year. McJoe Arroyo (17-0, 8 KOs) moves up a spot to ninth. Luis Concepcion (33-4, 24 KOS) enters at number ten after stopping fringe contender David Sanchez (28-3-2, 22 KOs) in ten rounds; knocking Sanchez down in the first round and again in the tenth.

    MINIMUMWEIGHT:

    Number one Hekkie Budler (29-1, 9 KOs) won a hard fought twelve round unanimous decision over fringe contender Simphiwe Khonco (15-5, 7 KOs). Number eight Xiong Chao Zhong (26-6-1, 14 KOs) won a ten round unanimous decision over unrated Crison Omayao (17-10-3, 5 KOs). No changes.

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    Default Re: SugarJ's World Boxing Rankings

    I use to love the lower weights and fighters from the far east. We do not get much coverage of those fighters. There is a gap in the market that ITV should tap into and show again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I use to love the lower weights and fighters from the far east. We do not get much coverage of those fighters. There is a gap in the market that ITV should tap into and show again.
    It is definitely an untapped market but with guys like Roman Gonzalez featuring on HBO and Jamie McDonnell making his mark domestically that may change.

    Youtube is your friend.

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    Any recommendations? I loved Sot Chitalada, Galaxy brothers, Sung-Kil Moon and Yuri Arbachakov.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Any recommendations? I loved Sot Chitalada, Galaxy brothers, Sung-Kil Moon and Yuri Arbachakov.
    Too many to name and it depends on what weight your interested in.

    Takayama vs Rodriguez Jr was a nice fight, Rodrigo Guerrero vs Daniel Rosas. I heard this weekends Budler vs Khonco fight was better than Santa Cruz vs Mares but haven't seen it yet.

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    Katsunari Takayama continues to earn respect as one of the best little-men around.



    Ratings updated:

    https://boxranks.wordpress.com/2015/...eptember-2015/



    HEAVYWEIGHT:

    Number two Deontay Wilder (35-0, 34 KOs) stopped tough unrated Johann Duhaupas (32-3, 20 KOs) in the eleventh round. No changes.

    CRUISERWEIGHT:

    Yoan Pablo Hernandez (29-1, 14 KOs) has announced his retirement; so he is removed as Champion. The Championship is now vacant. Previous number six Krzysztof Wlodarczyk (49-3-1, 35 KOs) exits as he has been inactive for over a year. Everyone rated seven through ten last week advances a place each. Number eight Rakhim Chakhkiev (24-1, 18 KOs) had a tougher than expected time in what was supposed to be a stay busy fight. Chakhkiev won an eight round unanimous decision over unrated Hamilton Ventura (14-2, 12 KOs) but he was knocked down in the third and again in the eighth round. Ventura was down in the fourth. Dmitry Kudryashov (18-0, 18 KOs) returns to the ratings at number ten.

    SUPER-MIDDLEWEIGHT:

    Number five Fedor Chudinov (14-0, 10 KOs) won a dominant twelve round unanimous decision over unrated Frank Buglioni (17-2-1, 13 KOs). No changes.

    MIDDLEWEIGHT:

    Number eight Jorge Sebastian Heiland (26-4-2, 14 KOs) knocked out unrated Claudio Ariel Abalos (29-14-3, 8 KOs) in six rounds. No changes.

    SUPER-WELTERWEIGHT:

    Number ten Julian Williams (21-0-1, 13 KOs) scored a first round stoppage over unrated gate-keeper Luciano Leonel Cuello (35-4, 17 KOs). No changes.

    BANTAMWEIGHT:

    Previous number one Shinsuke Yamanaka (24-0-2, 17 KOs) won a controversial twelve round split decision over formerly fifth rated Anselmo Moreno (35-4-1, 12 KOs). Yamanaka falls to third. Moreno assumes the top spot at one. Tomoki Kameda (31-2, 19 KOs) and Juan Carlos Payano (17-0, 8 KOs) are both pushed down a spot each to fourth and fifth respectively.

    FLYWEIGHT:

    Second rated Juan Francisco Estrada (33-2, 24 KOS) knocked out unrated veteran Hernan ‘Tyson’ Marquez (39-6-1, 28 KOs) in the tenth round, dropping the brave veteran seven times along the way. Number five Kazuto Ioka (18-1, 10 KOs) won an easy twelve round unanimous decision over unrated Roberto Domingo Sosa (26-3-1, 14 KOs). Number six Juan Carlos Reveco (36-2, 19 KOs) won a wide ten round unanimous decision over unrated Breilor Teran (14-13-1, 7 KOs) in an over the weight tune up bout. No changes.

    MINIMUMWEIGHT:

    Number two Katsunari Takayama (30-7, 12 KOs) stopped previous number eight Ryuji Hara (19-2, 11 KOs) in the eighth round. Hara who suffered his second consecutive knockout loss at this weight exits. Byron Rojas (16-2-3, 8 KOs) moves up a place from tenth to ninth. Denver Cuello (36-5-6, 24 KOs) enters at number ten.

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    Yamanaka drops 2 spots after winning a fight? Really? I had Moreno beating Yamanaka as well. But I thought the fight was competitive and don't consider it a robbery. And defitnaly don't think he should of dropped from the top spot. Moreno deserved to move up. But not to the top spot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Yamanaka drops 2 spots after winning a fight? Really? I had Moreno beating Yamanaka as well. But I thought the fight was competitive and don't consider it a robbery. And defitnaly don't think he should of dropped from the top spot. Moreno deserved to move up. But not to the top spot
    I agonized over that decision. On one hand I had Moreno winning handily. Yamanaka had entered at #1 so Moreno should advance over him.

    McDonnell has also been on an excellent run so should he be demoted because of Yamanaka's performance? I didn't think that would be fair.

    I also had to consider that to fill the vacant championship at this weight a fight would have to involve Moreno (seeing as I saw him beating the top guy). Leaving Yamanaka at #1 and McDonnell second would seem unfair if that fight was made to crown a champion, when I had scored 116-112 for Moreno over Yamanaka.

    As it stands the championship can only be filled in a fight involving Moreno. If he fights #2 McDonnell or possibly if he fights a rematch with Yamanaka.

    At the end of the day I saw Moreno winning clearly so that is indicated in the rankings.

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    Very subjective this rating system but I guess that is what makes it good but not necessarily fair.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lineal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Yamanaka drops 2 spots after winning a fight? Really? I had Moreno beating Yamanaka as well. But I thought the fight was competitive and don't consider it a robbery. And defitnaly don't think he should of dropped from the top spot. Moreno deserved to move up. But not to the top spot
    I agonized over that decision. On one hand I had Moreno winning handily. Yamanaka had entered at #1 so Moreno should advance over him.

    McDonnell has also been on an excellent run so should he be demoted because of Yamanaka's performance? I didn't think that would be fair.

    I also had to consider that to fill the vacant championship at this weight a fight would have to involve Moreno (seeing as I saw him beating the top guy). Leaving Yamanaka at #1 and McDonnell second would seem unfair if that fight was made to crown a champion, when I had scored 116-112 for Moreno over Yamanaka.

    As it stands the championship can only be filled in a fight involving Moreno. If he fights #2 McDonnell or possibly if he fights a rematch with Yamanaka.

    At the end of the day I saw Moreno winning clearly so that is indicated in the rankings.
    Why does Yamanaka get punished for a "questionable" win over Moreno while McDonnell gets rewarded for not one but two shameful gift wins over Kameda?

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    I did not know Hernandez retired, that is a shame he did well beating Cunningham to win the title.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I did not know Hernandez retired, that is a shame he did well beating Cunningham to win the title.
    Constant injuries led to that decision. But he'll be back. Word is he is not in best shape financially

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Lineal View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Yamanaka drops 2 spots after winning a fight? Really? I had Moreno beating Yamanaka as well. But I thought the fight was competitive and don't consider it a robbery. And defitnaly don't think he should of dropped from the top spot. Moreno deserved to move up. But not to the top spot
    I agonized over that decision. On one hand I had Moreno winning handily. Yamanaka had entered at #1 so Moreno should advance over him.

    McDonnell has also been on an excellent run so should he be demoted because of Yamanaka's performance? I didn't think that would be fair.

    I also had to consider that to fill the vacant championship at this weight a fight would have to involve Moreno (seeing as I saw him beating the top guy). Leaving Yamanaka at #1 and McDonnell second would seem unfair if that fight was made to crown a champion, when I had scored 116-112 for Moreno over Yamanaka.

    As it stands the championship can only be filled in a fight involving Moreno. If he fights #2 McDonnell or possibly if he fights a rematch with Yamanaka.

    At the end of the day I saw Moreno winning clearly so that is indicated in the rankings.
    Why does Yamanaka get punished for a "questionable" win over Moreno while McDonnell gets rewarded for not one but two shameful gift wins over Kameda?
    Again it comes down to how I saw the fights. Yamanaka is demoted because I thought he lost clearly. As for the McDonnell vs Kameda fights I had McDonnell winning the first by 114-113, it was close and could have gone either way so neither fighter changed rank. I thought McDonnell won the second fight clearly but Kameda retained his ranking at the time because Payano had just won a very close fight over unranked (at the time) Warren and the fights were competitive with another ranked fighter. Moreno had the Yamanaka bout coming up to make his mark.

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    I did not know Hernandez retired, that is a shame he did well beating Cunningham to win the title.
    Constant injuries led to that decision. But he'll be back. Word is he is not in best shape financially
    Hernandez said he needed two successive surgeries, one for his knee followed by elbow surgery. He had already been inactive since last August so he decided to retire. Apparently he is in financial trouble as well.

    Here's the Moreno vs Yamanaka fight for anyone that missed it:


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