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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Canelo almost 168 at 30-day weigh-in



    This is laughable, alright.

    If Cotto beats Canelo and does not fight GGG at 160, he'll catch shit for ducking him.
    Yet the reality is that Cotto isn't, and has never been, a 160-pounder.
    His worst sin was reaching for that title (MW) in a way that doesn't sit well with anyone, because in truth Cotto's build is not one of a MW. Too short.... too small-framed.

    Canelo, on the other hand, is a true MW. That's where he belongs. On Nov 21 we're going to witness a young MW fighting an older SMW. It's gonna be a tough mountain to climb for Cotto... but I'm confident he's up to the task.

    Now let's say Canelo wins..... and does not fight GGG at 160 either.
    Now THAT, gentlemen..... will be a true and classic D-U-C-K.

    The excuses have already begun.
    DLH says they'll fight someday..... but not yet..... not yet.
    Canelo says GGG has to come down to 155.
    Never mind that Canelo himself is a MW.
    No..... let's have you come down to 155 where you can be drained beyond belief.

    Cotto did it to Geale and caught shit.
    Let's see Canelo catch the same shit.

    Canelo is a ginger-haired version of Chavez Jr.

    Cotto is already 160

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Both should do the honorable thing and not pretend they are fighting for the middleweight title. They should just make this light middle title. These are two good fighters in there own right.

    GGG is the uncrowned middleweight champion who everyone knows would smash both up one after the other on the same night.

    GGG is the big white elephant in the room overshadowing this fight and it need not be.
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    Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Sanchez: GGG wants the WBC belt, Cotto / Canelo not the priority | World Boxing News


    Sanchez says Canelo has the advantage in the fight because of youth...What if he boxed GGG? They are similar ages him and Cotto lol.
    Last edited by Tam Seddon; 10-26-2015 at 04:23 PM.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.



    Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

    Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



    What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.



    Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

    Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



    What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.
    The thing is whoever wins, if they again choose to avoid Golovkin will be ducking at the same level, whatever that whole new level is.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by imp View Post
    Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.



    Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

    Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



    What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.
    The thing is whoever wins, if they again choose to avoid Golovkin will be ducking at the same level, whatever that whole new level is.

    I agree they should fight GGG at 160, no less. But I wouldn't blame Cotto for relinquishing the MW title which technically is not really a MW title at all, because Cotto has absolutely no business at 160. Canelo, on the other hand, belongs at 160 and will eventually be bigger than that. Shades of Chavez Jr. For Canelo not to fight GGG would be exponentially worse than for Cotto not to fight GGG.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Here's more moonwalking by Canelo:


    Canelo: When I Decide To Go 160, I'll Face The Best - Boxing News



    Pleeeease.
    That, and $3 will buy me a caffe latte at Starbucks.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Neither of them are going to fight Golovkin. Golovkin should call their bluff after they fight and offer to go to 155 to make the fight with the winner. Whoever it is that wins will still bottle it.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Fuck it, that's what I'd do. I'd wait till Kellerman asks them and they make the 155 excuse then get in the ring and challenge the fuckers on live TV to fight at 155.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
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    Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.



    Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

    Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



    What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.
    The thing is whoever wins, if they again choose to avoid Golovkin will be ducking at the same level, whatever that whole new level is.

    I agree they should fight GGG at 160, no less. But I wouldn't blame Cotto for relinquishing the MW title which technically is not really a MW title at all, because Cotto has absolutely no business at 160. Canelo, on the other hand, belongs at 160 and will eventually be bigger than that. Shades of Chavez Jr. For Canelo not to fight GGG would be exponentially worse than for Cotto not to fight GGG.
    Actually it would be Canelo's first attempt at Khazak dodging MW shenanigans, and Cotto's second, so the exponential factor could only be fairly attributed to Cotto who would be in your words, "exponentially worse" than the Cinnamon Kid.
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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Canelo has a shot at the middleweight crown and should he win it, the best man in the division is being dictated to point his weight south to 160. Roy Jones went up to get his. Micheal Spinks went up to get his shot and history was made. Neither asked the champ to come down. If you want to be the king of the hill you shouldn't be allowed to try to make him take the elevator down. If a man has been at a certain weight and he is asked to come down, it hurts and advantage serf on the bottom of the hill. Henry Armstrong fought at three levels and as a champ defending three titles at three weights never asked anyone to come down. Sugar Ray Robinson never asked Joe Maxim to come down. Emile Griffith didn't ask Dick Tiger and so on. If you are climbing then you have the burden of truth. I used to admire Canelo but this cry baby stuff has got to stop. It is like walking into a BMW dealership and trying to get the latest model at a Yugo manufactured suggested price. I love boxing and when I was growing up there were not so many junior divisions either.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    And again the sad irony to this now full on charade is that neither one of these guys (Cotto and Alvarez) or boxing needed to have the now fraudulent title involved. These two make a super fight and the same money or more given what the sanctioning fees are w/o the damn thing and words like mockery of a division would not even be part of this conversation. Now they both sound like fools in the press by openly holding the damn thin hostage. Its pathetic.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by Greenbeanz View Post
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    Oscar will steer canelo clear of GGG unless he is drained.



    Exactly. Said so by Canelo himself.

    Canelo: Body Not Yet Ready To Face Golovkin at 160 - Boxing News



    What's funny is hearing Canelo grouping himself with Cotto in saying that neither are 160-pounders. What a crock of sh*t. Especially given their recent 30-day pre-fight weights. Canelo is GGG's size right now, if not bigger. Of course I'm rooting for Cotto to win. But if Canelo beats Cotto, it'll be interesting to watch Canelo and his team do the Michael Jackson "moonwalk" when asked about fighting GGG. "Ducking" will be taken to a whole new level.
    The thing is whoever wins, if they again choose to avoid Golovkin will be ducking at the same level, whatever that whole new level is.

    I agree they should fight GGG at 160, no less. But I wouldn't blame Cotto for relinquishing the MW title which technically is not really a MW title at all, because Cotto has absolutely no business at 160. Canelo, on the other hand, belongs at 160 and will eventually be bigger than that. Shades of Chavez Jr. For Canelo not to fight GGG would be exponentially worse than for Cotto not to fight GGG.
    Actually it would be Canelo's first attempt at Khazak dodging MW shenanigans, and Cotto's second, so the exponential factor could only be fairly attributed to Cotto who would be in your words, "exponentially worse" than the Cinnamon Kid.

    How has Cotto ducked GGG twice? Serious question. Forget these technicalities. I've always been upfront about saying Cotto has no business in the MW division... none. Cotto is too small for 160 pounds. Canelo isn't. He's bigger.... he's younger. How is Cotto's dodging of GGG equal to Canelo's dodging of GGG? Why does Canelo get to lump himself in with Cotto in saying they're both too small for 160? Sounds like Canelo deserves the bigger portion of the "sh*t pie" here. My opinion.

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    Default Re: Canelo wouldnt go up to 160 to face GGG

    Quote Originally Posted by TitoFan View Post
    How has Cotto ducked GGG twice? Serious question. Forget these technicalities. I've always been upfront about saying Cotto has no business in the MW division... none. Cotto is too small for 160 pounds. Canelo isn't. He's bigger.... he's younger. How is Cotto's dodging of GGG equal to Canelo's dodging of GGG? Why does Canelo get to lump himself in with Cotto in saying they're both too small for 160? Sounds like Canelo deserves the bigger portion of the "sh*t pie" here. My opinion.
    He actually has. When Rubio became "interim" champion that made him mandatory for Cotto or actually Martinez at that time. Rubio decided not to execute his right (most likely paid a little cash) and stepped aside to let Cotto challenge Martinez. Rubio was going to get the next shot but a few months later he fought the Kazak failed to make weight and was crushed. The Kazak then became the mandatory. The Wbc then decided to go along with an optional as long as it happened in the spring of 2015 and that the winner fights the Kazak 3 months later. Cotto did not fight in the spring and then got away with fighting Geale in June after being off an entire year. Then he was ordered to fight Golovkin again and once again the Wbc at their bequest allowed Cotto to once again skip fighting him in order to set up a fight with their native son. Step aside money once again changing hands one way or the other. They allowed this by both men stating and signing to fight him after their match is completed. Both men after all is said and done have now made it perfectly clear that they have no intention on fighting the guy because they are not middleweights. So should Cotto win he would then be on course to duck him 3 times. I dont just blame the fighters either. The wbc is up to their neck in this bullshit and they as an org have ducked their own interim champion.

    Broken record or not they should have left the freakin title out of the proceedings and based on the testimony of the people who signed their names to honour the fight it should now be declared vacant.

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