Britain vote to leave the EU

[Kirkland Laing]

What a horrible couple of workdays since the referendum. I was at a wedding in France over the weekend. British hedge funder marrying a French banker. The Brits all furious at Boris and the French shitting themselves that Le Pen gets a boost from promising a French referendum, wins the presidency and then gets a French exit. Not shitting themselves but worried.

Loads of smartarses all trying to show how connected they were by telling everybody what the government is going to do and to be fair lots of them are connected people. But everybody had a different read. There's going to be another referendum. There definitely isn't going to be another referendum. Article 50 won't get triggered. Yes it will. And so on. Bottom line is nobody knows. You could see by Boris and Gove's faces on Friday morning they don't have a clue what they're doing either. They obviously didn't expect to win. They weren't exactly celebrating were they.




It's going to be interesting to see how the economy does over the next few months until we get round to invoking article fifty. There's a good chance that a lot of firms who would love to move somewhere like Romania to take advantage of the cheap labour might fuck off. Parts of the City might fuck off too and much as people don't like us we chip in billions of tax revenues. There might be a lot of people who voted leave who wish they'd voted the other way in a few months. In which case, with ongoing damage to the economy and Scotland potentially fucking off maybe parliament just disregards the referendum result and we stay in. I'd put the chance of this at about 20-30%.

And it might get higher of it becomes clear that freedom of movement for EU citizens isn't going to change even if we do leave. If we want to keep access to the European single market we're going to have to keep freedom of movement. If Boris and his chums start admitting in public that we may have to keep freedom of movement before we've invoked article fifty it'll be a good tell that we're not going to.

Pound is taking a bit of a hammering and stock markets everywhere are down. The euro and eurozone stocks will eventually get a pounding too, it's not just going to be us. There's going to be a lot of effort made by the EU to make us either reverse or ignore our referendum vote. Like I said before, nobody here apart from part of the Conservative party wants us to leave and nobody in the EU want us to leave. And even if we do we'll still be paying into the EU budget and letting EU peeps come here and work.

[Dia bando]

Immigration was the main reason simple know ifs or buts.
People are not stupid they can see what immigration has done to there jobs and there community totally fucked up.
None of the ass hole politicians had any influence on my vote.
I seen what immigration has done for jobs in my area, facts figures are bull shit, see what it does what's wrong British's job's for British's workers simple not a dirty word FOR US not half of fucking Europe.
The bankers and City traders are crying into there Champagne.
Britain voted to leave it's what people wanted, it may not suit the City boy's greedy bastards the lot of them.
The single market more like a cattle market three hundred thousand coming in every year.
My heart does not bleed for the politicians, that have been discredited on all sides.

[El Kabong]

If Le Pen wins it might trigger a civil war in France....I would think that would be something that nation needs as it is right there on the brink of becoming Islamist. Belgium, Italy, and Germany as well could use with their Islamic populations assimilating for a while.


Kirkland, surely you have seen the new mayor of Rome?



I mean she's no Marion Le Pen, but still she's quite the looker

[superheavyrhun]

Immigration was the main reason simple know ifs or buts.
People are not stupid they can see what immigration has done to there jobs and there community totally fucked up.
None of the ass hole politicians had any influence on my vote.
I seen what immigration has done for jobs in my area, facts figures are bull shit, see what it does what's wrong British's job's for British's workers simple not a dirty word FOR US not half of fucking Europe.
The bankers and City traders are crying into there Champagne.
Britain voted to leave it's what people wanted, it may not suit the City boy's greedy bastards the lot of them.
The single market more like a cattle market three hundred thousand coming in every year.
My heart does not bleed for the politicians, that have been discredited on all sides.

Come on buddy, surely the fact that the Leave politicians themselves saying that leaving the EU will not affect immigration means you have to look at the other factors?

[Britkid]

Immigration was the main reason simple know ifs or buts.
People are not stupid they can see what immigration has done to there jobs and there community totally fucked up.
None of the ass hole politicians had any influence on my vote.
I seen what immigration has done for jobs in my area, facts figures are bull shit, see what it does what's wrong British's job's for British's workers simple not a dirty word FOR US not half of fucking Europe.
The bankers and City traders are crying into there Champagne.
Britain voted to leave it's what people wanted, it may not suit the City boy's greedy bastards the lot of them.
The single market more like a cattle market three hundred thousand coming in every year.
My heart does not bleed for the politicians, that have been discredited on all sides.

In that case you have should voted to stay. The remain group were the only ones who suggested they would try to lower migration. Leave made it clear free removement would remain and also they would look to bring in an 'Australian style' points system for those not in the EU.

[Gandalf]

You chaps have issues. You are run by liars on both sides. Have parties that revolt whenever they seem to have an 'opportunity' and meanwhile living standards continue to drop and the borders are wide open. It makes no sense to the casual observer. You have allowed really stupid and self interested people to sell your sovereignty and destroy your country. I don't understand why the British just take it like they do. They should be barricading borders and marching on the city of London and arresting Blair. But nothing done about anything ever except new powers to spy and enforce the BBC on everyone.... strange.

[brocktonblockbust]

You chaps have issues. You are run by liars on both sides. Have parties that revolt whenever they seem to have an 'opportunity' and meanwhile living standards continue to drop and the borders are wide open. It makes no sense to the casual observer. You have allowed really stupid and self interested people to sell your sovereignty and destroy your country. I don't understand why the British just take it like they do. They should be barricading borders and marching on the city of London and arresting Blair. But nothing done about anything ever except new powers to spy and enforce the BBC on everyone.... strange.

Its the dumbing down of the sheeple. Pretty.soon governments can sodomize people and ASK FOR MONEY FOR IT, and the people----The sheeple---Nietzsche's "last man"---- will just whip out their credit cards and beg to be manhandled again and again. Alex Jones was one of the first to identify this masochistic, zombie madness.

[Beanz]

You chaps have issues. You are run by liars on both sides. Have parties that revolt whenever they seem to have an 'opportunity' and meanwhile living standards continue to drop and the borders are wide open. It makes no sense to the casual observer. You have allowed really stupid and self interested people to sell your sovereignty and destroy your country. I don't understand why the British just take it like they do. They should be barricading borders and marching on the city of London and arresting Blair. But nothing done about anything ever except new powers to spy and enforce the BBC on everyone.... strange.

Its the dumbing down of the sheeple. Pretty.soon governments can sodomize people and ASK FOR MONEY FOR IT, and the people----The sheeple---Nietzsche's "last man"---- will just whip out their credit cards and beg to be manhandled again and again. Alex Jones was one of the first to identify this masochistic, zombie madness.

Who are the sheeple? The people who voted for Brexit? The people who voted for remain? The people who engaged democratically and voted? Those who did not see a referendum as democratic and abstained? Those of us who take to the streets and protest or those who choose not to protest? Which half of the British population? Who here on Saddo? Who in this thread? Let me take a wild guess and suggest you may mean everyone bar you and Miles, neither of whom live in this country or voted in the referendum. I know at least one of you has whipped out his credit card for Alex Jones so who are the sheeple now?

[Gandalf]

My take on the sheeple is the people who read The Sun, watch their evening soaps, and cry when their football team loses every single time. The people who don't plan for the future, who go on holiday to Europe whenever they get a loose penny, and who are not aware of people like Alex Jones. You know the type, lots of them out there.

[walrus]

You chaps have issues. You are run by liars on both sides. Have parties that revolt whenever they seem to have an 'opportunity' and meanwhile living standards continue to drop and the borders are wide open. It makes no sense to the casual observer. You have allowed really stupid and self interested people to sell your sovereignty and destroy your country. I don't understand why the British just take it like they do. They should be barricading borders and marching on the city of London and arresting Blair. But nothing done about anything ever except new powers to spy and enforce the BBC on everyone.... strange.

Its the dumbing down of the sheeple. Pretty.soon governments can sodomize people and ASK FOR MONEY FOR IT, and the people----The sheeple---Nietzsche's "last man"---- will just whip out their credit cards and beg to be manhandled again and again. Alex Jones was one of the first to identify this masochistic, zombie madness.

Who are the sheeple? The people who voted for Brexit? The people who voted for remain? The people who engaged democratically and voted? Those who did not see a referendum as democratic and abstained? Those of us who take to the streets and protest or those who choose not to protest? Which half of the British population? Who here on Saddo? Who in this thread? Let me take a wild guess and suggest you may mean everyone bar you and Miles, neither of whom live in this country or voted in the referendum. I know at least one of you has whipped out his credit card for Alex Jones so who are the sheeple now?

At least you are getting a taste of what we Americans deal with. It seems the world is an expert on America despite never setting foot here.

[Gandalf]

You chaps have issues. You are run by liars on both sides. Have parties that revolt whenever they seem to have an 'opportunity' and meanwhile living standards continue to drop and the borders are wide open. It makes no sense to the casual observer. You have allowed really stupid and self interested people to sell your sovereignty and destroy your country. I don't understand why the British just take it like they do. They should be barricading borders and marching on the city of London and arresting Blair. But nothing done about anything ever except new powers to spy and enforce the BBC on everyone.... strange.

Its the dumbing down of the sheeple. Pretty.soon governments can sodomize people and ASK FOR MONEY FOR IT, and the people----The sheeple---Nietzsche's "last man"---- will just whip out their credit cards and beg to be manhandled again and again. Alex Jones was one of the first to identify this masochistic, zombie madness.

Who are the sheeple? The people who voted for Brexit? The people who voted for remain? The people who engaged democratically and voted? Those who did not see a referendum as democratic and abstained? Those of us who take to the streets and protest or those who choose not to protest? Which half of the British population? Who here on Saddo? Who in this thread? Let me take a wild guess and suggest you may mean everyone bar you and Miles, neither of whom live in this country or voted in the referendum. I know at least one of you has whipped out his credit card for Alex Jones so who are the sheeple now?

At least you are getting a taste of what we Americans deal with. It seems the world is an expert on America despite never setting foot here.

Do you need to live in Greece to see that the people are suffering and that the country has no control over its borders or currency? I don't really buy into that point of view. An informed outsider can know a lot more about a country than an uninformed local. I pay attention to countries like America because I understand the impact on the world. Same with China. I pay attention to the UK because I know people living there and I haven't quite closed the door. It's my duty to be informed.

[brocktonblockbust]

My take on the sheeple is the people who read The Sun, watch their evening soaps, and cry when their football team loses every single time. The people who don't plan for the future, who go on holiday to Europe whenever they get a loose penny, and who are not aware of people like Alex Jones. You know the type, lots of them out there.

Spot on.

[walrus]

You chaps have issues. You are run by liars on both sides. Have parties that revolt whenever they seem to have an 'opportunity' and meanwhile living standards continue to drop and the borders are wide open. It makes no sense to the casual observer. You have allowed really stupid and self interested people to sell your sovereignty and destroy your country. I don't understand why the British just take it like they do. They should be barricading borders and marching on the city of London and arresting Blair. But nothing done about anything ever except new powers to spy and enforce the BBC on everyone.... strange.

Its the dumbing down of the sheeple. Pretty.soon governments can sodomize people and ASK FOR MONEY FOR IT, and the people----The sheeple---Nietzsche's "last man"---- will just whip out their credit cards and beg to be manhandled again and again. Alex Jones was one of the first to identify this masochistic, zombie madness.

Who are the sheeple? The people who voted for Brexit? The people who voted for remain? The people who engaged democratically and voted? Those who did not see a referendum as democratic and abstained? Those of us who take to the streets and protest or those who choose not to protest? Which half of the British population? Who here on Saddo? Who in this thread? Let me take a wild guess and suggest you may mean everyone bar you and Miles, neither of whom live in this country or voted in the referendum. I know at least one of you has whipped out his credit card for Alex Jones so who are the sheeple now?

At least you are getting a taste of what we Americans deal with. It seems the world is an expert on America despite never setting foot here.

Do you need to live in Greece to see that the people are suffering and that the country has no control over its borders or currency? I don't really buy into that point of view. An informed outsider can know a lot more about a country than an uninformed local. I pay attention to countries like America because I understand the impact on the world. Same with China. I pay attention to the UK because I know people living there and I haven't quite closed the door. It's my duty to be informed.

No doubt miles. I've been reading much about brexit I love to see democracy at work but no matter how much I read I will miss more as I can't experience it as a Brit. Also, I was reading in the economist that South Korean businesses punish pregnant women workers. They interviewed several who had been screwed over when they were accused of being pregnant when they were not

[Gandalf]

You chaps have issues. You are run by liars on both sides. Have parties that revolt whenever they seem to have an 'opportunity' and meanwhile living standards continue to drop and the borders are wide open. It makes no sense to the casual observer. You have allowed really stupid and self interested people to sell your sovereignty and destroy your country. I don't understand why the British just take it like they do. They should be barricading borders and marching on the city of London and arresting Blair. But nothing done about anything ever except new powers to spy and enforce the BBC on everyone.... strange.

Its the dumbing down of the sheeple. Pretty.soon governments can sodomize people and ASK FOR MONEY FOR IT, and the people----The sheeple---Nietzsche's "last man"---- will just whip out their credit cards and beg to be manhandled again and again. Alex Jones was one of the first to identify this masochistic, zombie madness.

Who are the sheeple? The people who voted for Brexit? The people who voted for remain? The people who engaged democratically and voted? Those who did not see a referendum as democratic and abstained? Those of us who take to the streets and protest or those who choose not to protest? Which half of the British population? Who here on Saddo? Who in this thread? Let me take a wild guess and suggest you may mean everyone bar you and Miles, neither of whom live in this country or voted in the referendum. I know at least one of you has whipped out his credit card for Alex Jones so who are the sheeple now?

At least you are getting a taste of what we Americans deal with. It seems the world is an expert on America despite never setting foot here.

Do you need to live in Greece to see that the people are suffering and that the country has no control over its borders or currency? I don't really buy into that point of view. An informed outsider can know a lot more about a country than an uninformed local. I pay attention to countries like America because I understand the impact on the world. Same with China. I pay attention to the UK because I know people living there and I haven't quite closed the door. It's my duty to be informed.

No doubt miles. I've been reading much about brexit I love to see democracy at work but no matter how much I read I will miss more as I can't experience it as a Brit. Also, I was reading in the economist that South Korean businesses punish pregnant women workers. They interviewed several who had been screwed over when they were accused of being pregnant when they were not

Strange story and I wouldn't mind giving it a read.

I just think it's good to have a healthy understanding of what is going on in the world, because even if it is not affecting you now, then it will reach you at one stage and you have to be ready. If they are going to bring war here, then I will have to move to Russia and teach English for instance. I would fight if they let me, but they would have no use for a giant stick insect.

[Master]

The rise in racist incidents is very alarming. Just because we are leaving does not give people the right to racially abuse people.